[jonmcc33]

Relax there, Sportfish, there is no "battle" here. Yes, NOD32 gives the same advice that Kaspersky gives. Again, it's just because they don't want you giving your business to anyone else.

Do you think Microsoft is going to encourage anyone to use a Mac? Really?

Take my advice or leave it. If you want to get that expert Moderator on here or via PM then I'd enjoy a nice conversation about it. Until someone shows me some sort of proof I'll go based upon what I've seen and read myself.

[Sportfish]

Hey jon, that's cool. So be it and I to will believe what I've seen when just 6 months ago I spent a bit of time getting my son-in-laws computer back in running order after he crashed it by installing AVG when he hadn't deleted Macacrap first. Hope you don't run into it cuz it's a pain in the A$$.

Cheers,
Mark

[jonmcc33]

Did he install AVG with the realtime protection enabled while the other AV program was enabled? That would be the big question. I'll go ahead and run a test now. I'll put AVG on my other computer with Avast! installed. I'll be right back.

[Sportfish]

Originally Posted by jonmcc33

Did he install AVG with the realtime protection enabled while the other AV program was enabled? That would be the big question. I'll go ahead and run a test now. I'll put AVG on my other computer with Avast! installed. I'll be right back.

Hey jon, I can't answer that as I wasn't there when he did what he did. Just got the remains and story of what he did. Then was asked to get him back up and going. But we're getting a bit off topic here so before a mod comes and closes us, and if you still want to dive into this, I suggest you start a new thread on this particular topic so that helpme can get what he needs. I don't want to hijack his thread. If you do start a new thread, PM me and let me know where your at. I'd be very interested in finding out your results.

Mark

[jonmcc33]

Well, the OP did ask, "Is it ok to install NOD32 antivirus on my PC that has AVG free edition antivirus installed?"

We're just going out of our way to prove the correct answer, yes? There is nothing hijacked at all. I just want to make sure that the OP gets the best advice possible to his question. I would hope that a Moderator wants the same.

So far here is what I have done...

Avast!

1. Right clicked and stopped On-Access Protection, turning off all protection modules.

2. Windows Security Center warning.

3. Went into Services and stopped both avast! Antivirus service and avast! iAVS4 Control Service.

AVG

1. Install (see warning below).



Note: It states that it is not good to have more than one antivirus program running on the same computer.

A. Select Custom installation > Next
B. Personalize AVG (default) > Next
C. Path (default) > Next
D. Unselect Resident Shield and E-mail Scanner > Next
E. Finish

2. Ran Updates to current AVG virus database.

3. Only error showing Resident Shield not installed (running).

4. Ran full disk scan. End result of scan below.



5. Right clicked on AVG system tray icon and selected Quit AVG Free Control Center. Clicked on Yes to confirm shutdown.

6. Went into Services and stopped AVG7 Alert Manager Server and AVG7 Update Service.

Avast! Continued

4. Went into Services and started both avast! Antivirus service and avast! iAVS4 Control Service.

5. Right clicked and started On-Access Protection, turning on all protection modules. All modules started successfully.

6. Double clicked on Avast! Antivirus icon on desktop. Selected button to scan all local hard drives and moved slider over to Thorough Scan. Stopped scan after 2 hours, Thorough Scan is too deep and time consuming. Restarted scan under Standard Scan. Results below.



The one "infected" file was a false positive on a DLL file located in the mIRC folder with the Invision add on. Otherwise Avast! didn't error out or have any problems. In fact it scanned more files, 20,000 more to be exact. So that shows how bad AVG really is (people should stop recommending it) and that what I said was completely true. You can have two different AV programs installed at the same time without any problem.

AVG Continued

7. Went into Add/Remove Programs and uninstalled AVG since it is a weaker AV program. Rebooted system. No errors upon reboot.

[helpme??]

Originally Posted by Sportfish

But hopefully helpme has now recieved the username and password for Nod by now and is well off to having secure secure system.
Mark

Nop, I'm still waiting for the email from Nod32. I have to call chillsoft about this later on.
I hope they will fix this up and hopefully I will get the USERNAME and PASSWORD...

By the way thanks for the reply guys

I just need the USERNAME and PASSWORD and happy as a dog

[jonmcc33]

Please see my updates.

[Sportfish]

Originally Posted by helpme??

Nop, I'm still waiting for the email from Nod32. I have to call chillsoft about this later on.
I hope they will fix this up and hopefully I will get the USERNAME and PASSWORD...

By the way thanks for the reply guys

I just need the USERNAME and PASSWORD and happy as a dog

Hey helpme, Like I said earlier, you can go to Eset's home page and DL the trial version to get you by for now. Then when you get your username and password, you can add it in at that time.

Mark

[Gizzy]

jonmcc33 thats nice you could get avast and avg to run together but I have heard of some one getting avast and avira to run together,

I won't argue with you there yes it is possible to run one av next to another but they do have the chance of conflicting even if it works okay now one day they might send out an update and you get a conflict.

for one you didn't even install the real time scanner of avg so that minimized chances of conflictions and also it is possible to get av's to run together but most of the times they conflict,

a lot of times even if you uninstall an av and it leaves leftover registry keys and then you install another av they will conflict just because of some leftover registry keys,

and then whats the point of risking the chances of conflictions and having to reformat when you would get better security by just installing and using a behavior blocker like threatfire alongside your current av.

and I don't believe the warning on the av's about running more than one is because they don't want to lose customers because you are still using their av why else would you have went and bought?

and now that this thread has been hijacked I will try to stay just a little on topic,
since it's been almost 24 hours since your last reply helpme?? have you received your username and password? or tried what Sportfish suggested?

[jonmcc33]

Originally Posted by Gizzy

jonmcc33 thats nice you could get avast and avg to run together but I have heard of some one getting avast and avira to run together,

I won't argue with you there yes it is possible to run one av next to another but they do have the chance of conflicting even if it works okay now one day they might send out an update and you get a conflict.

for one you didn't even install the real time scanner of avg so that minimized chances of conflictions and also it is possible to get av's to run together but most of the times they conflict,

Of course I didn't install the realtime scanner of AVG. Why would I do that?

The people that have multiple AV programs just use the different programs for scanning only and not realtime protection.

Originally Posted by Gizzy

a lot of times even if you uninstall an av and it leaves leftover registry keys and then you install another av they will conflict just because of some leftover registry keys,

and then whats the point of risking the chances of conflictions and having to reformat when you would get better security by just installing and using a behavior blocker like threatfire alongside your current av.

Oh, tell me about it. Symantec is the worst at that. You may as well reformat if you uninstall Symantec because you'll have crap leftover months down the road. McAfee is almost as bad. I can't stand that program and we use it at my work.

Originally Posted by Gizzy

and I don't believe the warning on the av's about running more than one is because they don't want to lose customers because you are still using their av why else would you have went and bought?

You didn't get my point. If you already have one AV program installed then that's money they lost. A lot of AV programs come in trial basis as well, NOD32 is a prime example. So you have BitDefender and then install NOD32 trial version. Eset would want you to uninstall the other AV program so after the 30 day trial you buy a license from them.

And of course, as Sportfish said in a PM to me, most people aren't going to be as forward thinking as I was when having 2 or more AV programs. By encouraging to uninstall the other AV program they also ensure that there isn't a risk of problems in the future while using their software, so they don't lose your business.

[Gizzy]

Originally Posted by jonmcc33

Of course I didn't install the realtime scanner of AVG. Why would I do that?

The people that have multiple AV programs just use the different programs for scanning only and not realtime protection.

well thats a reason for the warning to be in anti-virus programs either people won't think much of it and just install a new Anti-virus to try it out and not even think about the one they have installed or people will think the more anti-virus programs they have on their pc the better protection they will have 5 anti-virus programs later (perhaps a bit of an exaggeration) and they get conflicts most people probably won't think to use the custom install and not install the real time scanner,

Originally Posted by jonmcc33

Oh, tell me about it. Symantec is the worst at that. You may as well reformat if you uninstall Symantec because you'll have crap leftover months down the road. McAfee is almost as bad. I can't stand that program and we use it at my work.

yeah I had to remove norton off my computer one time what a headache first uninstall then removal tool then manually deleting files and registry keys I know I should have just reformatted....

Originally Posted by jonmcc33

You didn't get my point. If you already have one AV program installed then that's money they lost. A lot of AV programs come in trial basis as well, NOD32 is a prime example. So you have BitDefender and then install NOD32 trial version. Eset would want you to uninstall the other AV program so after the 30 day trial you buy a license from them.

but whats to keep me from reinstalling bitdefender? I'm not saying your wrong but if thats true then they aren't exactly thinking that one through IMO,

Originally Posted by jonmcc33

And of course, as Sportfish said in a PM to me, most people aren't going to be as forward thinking as I was when having 2 or more AV programs. By encouraging to uninstall the other AV program they also ensure that there isn't a risk of problems in the future while using their software, so they don't lose your business.

well of course because if there's problems with their pc they'll automatically assume it's caused by the newest program they put on it not realizing it's because of how they have 2 anti-virus's setup,


though I still stick to it is possible to run more than one anti-virus you are right there but more than one anti-virus's don't always work together.

[AshGreen]

in my honnest little opinion scanning through this thread is that 2 or more av programs will cause issues whether you see them imediately or 5 months down the line.

Ive seen it from macfee updates from one version to another in which the uninstall part of the new versions installation has failed leaving both AV's installed which fubar'd the pc for a while till we could get it to boot to safe mode to disable services to go back in and uninstall using the MCPR tool.

Others are Trend Micro Products and mcafee installations side by side just runs into corrupt profiles.

the best 'free' anti virus that i have come across is the free edition of bitdefender. but my opinion is you get what you pay for so take from taht what you will!

[helpme??]

Thanks guys. My problem has been solved. Got the username and password now yay ^^

[Sportfish]

Originally Posted by helpme??

Thanks guys. My problem has been solved. Got the username and password now yay ^^

[Gizzy]

Originally Posted by helpme??

Thanks guys. My problem has been solved. Got the username and password now yay ^^

thats good to hear,

hope you get along well with nod32