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17-Nov-2009, 05:02 PM #1
Unhappy Solved: How restore disk image to new hard drive?
Hi. Here is the situation:

System is Windows XP Pro, quite old -- got in 2004, I think. Hard drive started acting up. One of the last things I was able to do was to use Norton 10.0 to backup an image of the C-drive over the network to another machine. That is, a backup of the entire computer, not just selected files and folder. Took forever. (Also backed up the D-drive -- a separate hard drive -- to the same networked machine.) Shortly after this, the C-drive crashed for good.

So I bought a similar hard drive. Not exactly the same, but as close as I could reasonably get. The original (failed) drive is IDE Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 250Gig. The replacement drive is Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB, which is an Enhanced IDE drive. Then replaced the failed drive with the new one. Both were set to "cable select."

I can successfully boot from the Norton CD. I can start networking services and map the Y-drive to the folder across the network containing the backup images for C:\ and D:\. Looking at the partition information it is seeing C:\ as primary & bootable, but has it's size as 238GB. However, when I click on "Recover My Computer", nothing happens after a while.

It starts off with some disk activity and some CD activity, then nothing. No networking going on at any time. After this, Norton seems to hang.

Now, I haven't formatted the new hard drive. Should I have to? I don't understand things like Master Boot Record (MBR) too well -- Norton allows one to recover that -- should I do that?

Or did I mess up by not getting the exact same kind of hard drive?

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17-Nov-2009, 05:32 PM #2
You might edit your title and add Ghost 10, that way if there are any ghost guru's lurking about, it will catch their attention.


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17-Nov-2009, 08:08 PM #3
If your new drive is not formatted then nothing will go on to the disc, I have never had any problems laying an image back on to a new or used drive, format the hard drive boot to the drive you have the images on, start Ghost and try again and see how you go.

I dont have Ghost 10, I use an older version but one would assume it works the same but capable of doing a lot more than the older versions. So can not tell you where to go in the program as they might have even changed the format of the program like they did with Office.
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18-Nov-2009, 11:48 AM #4
Thanks. I've edited the title.

Will try formatting the hard drive, though that'll be hard. I have a DOS boot diskette, but it needs to be an NTFS file system. I have something called NTFS4DOS -- it may be able to do an NTFS format. Otherwise I don't know how to do it.

Beanie, you suggest booting to the drive the images are on. This is a network drive, so that can't be done. Isn't the required order of steps 1> boot from Ghost CD, 2> start networking services, 3> get a network drive for the backed-up image, and then 4> do the recovery? I've taken a deeper look at the Ghost 10.0 User Guide, and this is what it seems to be saying to do.

I managed steps 1> through 3>.
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18-Nov-2009, 12:02 PM #5
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Otherwise I don't know how to do it.
You can do it by booting from an XP installation CD, use the partition and format tools during setup, when partition and "quick" format is done, remove the XP cd from the drive and power down the PC by holding the power button in until it does.


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18-Nov-2009, 12:03 PM #6
No, NTFS4DOS will allow to read files from a NTFS volume but you cannot format or write to it. If you boot from a Windows XP CD, you can use the Setup wizard to format the disk and just exit before installing Windows.

You can also use the following to format discs:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
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18-Nov-2009, 05:22 PM #7
OK, this is now solved.

I was making two errors:

1> The original machine had two physical drives, the C: (which failed) and the D: (which was still working fine.) The C: was jumpered to be the master while the D: was jumpered to be cable select. When I replaced C:, the new drive was also jumpered to be cable select. So naturally what ended up happening was that the old D: was now IDE-0 while the new drive was IDE-1. This must have confused Ghost somewhat.

2> When mapping the network drive, I used the wrong IP address. The Ghost User Manual has you use \\IP-address\share-name to point to the drive, and I just flat got it wrong except for once when I used \\machine-name\share-name which seemed to work.

Anyway, after taking out the old D-drive, I was able to successfully recover the data and boot the system from the new replacement C-drive.

The system thinks the drive size is 250 Gig while it is really 500Gig, but I can live with that.

Next and last step is to re-install the old D-drive. I will be very sure to get the master and slave jumpers correct.

I have marked this solved. Thanks for everyone's comments!
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18-Nov-2009, 05:42 PM #8
Don't know about the IP address never had to put that in when using Ghost but then I am using a older version. as to mistake one, like who has not made that mistake before hehehe

As to only half the drive showing, Reformat and re-partition it ntfs style, or take the partition out, you might as well use the whole drive, or use both sides of the partition.
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18-Nov-2009, 05:54 PM #9
FYI, master, slave cable select.

CS jumper is ok on most systems, but both drives on the ide cable must be cs, the drive connected to the end of the cable is considered master by the bios, the one connected to the middle connector is considered slave.

Using Master/Slave jumper setting means you can connect to either connector, it will remain as Master or Slave according to the jumper setting not cable position.

Glad you got it resolved...
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18-Nov-2009, 08:04 PM #10
Thanks both. I had just mis-remembered about the CS and position on the cable. I thought that the first position from the mobo was the master and the 2nd the slave. So I got that one exactly wrong.

As for having only half the drive, I'll continue as is for a while since I'm only using 18Gig of the 250Gig available. I can always do another backup and then recover and try Beanie's suggestions. Sufficient unto the day, eh?
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18-Nov-2009, 09:10 PM #11
Have a great day eh?

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