[Slrman]

Maybe as a newbie here, I should stay quiet. But saying that Mac users are "fruity" and that Macs are not "real computers" Is not only insulting, but reveals an ignorance that makes one question whether the writer knows anything worth listening to in the first place.

Is this the attitude I am to expect from what would seem to be a place for serious discussion? Maybe I should cancel out right now.

[valis]

I would never presume to speak for the owner of this site, but I can guarantee you one thing; this is the best tech support site on the net. What makes it so is the people who populate it. Actual personalities, with actual feelings and some have a more attuned sense of humor, shall we say.

Did you check out any of the sub-forums under Macs? There are some very knowledgeable people roaming around in there, and all through these halls.

Welcome to TSG. I hope you stick around. It's fun, and I for one never get tired of helping people. Lord knows I need to give back some after all the advice and assistance I've taken from here.

v

[VegasACF]

I choose not to get bogged down by labels others apply. If you choose to do the opposite that's your prerogative.

[Shamou]

Welcome to TSG Slrman... This is a wonderful site... and you could become addicted to it very fast... so, I suggest that you hold your judgment for a while... get to know us... and maybe, we'll have the pleasure of your company for a long... long time...

[Slrman]

I agree that this is a wonderful site and a great service to many. Maybe I am being too sensitive but lets ask ourselves. If we described PC users as "Poor people that, out of ignorance, are content to use second rate computing equipment" and made derogatory remarks at every opportunity, how would they react?

To me, such remarks are unprofessional and unworthy of a site such as this. I have been in the computer industry off and on since 1968 when I started as a customer engineer (repairman) with IBM. As a free-lance technical writer I used Macs and PC's side-by side for many years. I can state from experience that Windows is entirely derivative from the Mac OS and always will be.

I actually have an early photograph of Bill Gates in his office with a Mac in the background next to a Windows system.

As far as being "real computers" or Macs "only being good for graphics" that shows a real ignorance of how computers do what they do. It is all crunching 1's and 0's, be it spreadsheets, sonatas, or slipcover designs. A system that does one well, can do it all well. Dem's da facts folKS.

Soapbox mode off!

Thanks for the welcome and I hope to be a frequent visitor and sometimes contributor.

Jim Smith
João Pessoa, Brazil

[Wolfeymole]

I think you have missed the point of the description, (Fruity) Sirman which to my mind is intended to be a literal aspect rather than an inference of sexual orientation.

[Yankee Rose]

Actuallly, I have always thought the forum description is just outdated. Apple did away with the "fruit" colored iMacs several years ago.

Something along the lines of a reference to their cat code named OS X releases would be more appropriate. Most serious Mac users see the reference to the fruit, and realize this site needs an update on that forum description.

I'm not offended by it. Just amused.

[valis]

I always that it was a rather clever pun on the name of the company.

[D0C_Hol1d@y]

hold on! An Apple is a fruit. Is that warp years ahead to say fruity. That has got you so bent you're willing to stop reading the posts? I'm trying to grasp your angle here. I don't get it.

[xgerryx]

Slrman
Post a link to the offending thread so we can have a look at it.

[valis]

xgerryx: he/she is referring to the title of the mac thread itself, 'for our fruity users', I believe.

[Slrman]

After many years of using Macs and PCs side-by-side, I am really kind of tired of the juvenile put-downs from PC users that really don't know what they are talking about. I expected better from this site. But it seems that, when you have no facts and logic, put-downs and personal insults are the only thing left to do. No biggy, really. Just an observation of an unexpected attitude in a place where I expected better.

[VegasACF]

I choose not to get bogged down by labels others apply. If you choose to do the opposite that's your prerogative.

[emoxley]

I see where Slrman is coming from........
"For our fruity users who prefer Macs over computers." This is copied and pasted from the forum heading. It is very insulting, the way it is worded. I never noticed it, until this thread. TSG should be ashamed! But, I guess there's one in every croud......

[Slrman]

Originally Posted by VegasACF

I choose not to get bogged down by labels others apply. If you choose to do the opposite that's your prerogative.

Who said anything about being "Bogged Down"? That is your perspective, not mine. For my part, it was simply an observation. If anyone is "bogged down," it is the PC users who do not understand that everything they like about Windows was copied from a Macintosh OS. Often, when someone does not understand something their only reaction is to denigrate it, be it an operating system or a casual comment.