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Originally Posted by D0C_Hol1d@y Is there? Is there really that vast of a difference? You must be a security specialist. Well every single computer with an OS in capable of getting hacked or infected in real life! For instance e-mail me I'll tell you a lot about your computer and where you live. Here's a news flash, most Microsoft holes are in its Software not Operating system. So take away software and compare the two. It's not as far as Mac drones would like to think. |
If someone chooses to code malware for a system, whether it's Longhorn, OS X, or a Commodore 64, there will be security issues. That's common sense. Of course, if common sense were "common" it would just be called "sense".
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Originally Posted by D0C_Hol1d@y Xp and all previous Windows have this one problem just like OS9, it crashes. You remember OS9 don't you? It crashed it was unstable at times well lots of times I remember the BOMB with the fuse and my fist hitting the monitor more than a couple of times. I still remember all the geek tricks I had to learn to run it well. If you want I can bring up some of the OS7 issues I remember as well. I used to make my own hybrid Mac OSs between OS9, and 8. To try to make the thing a little more stable. I hated losing work. |
I never had any problem, nor do I still, with OS 9. The difference between my system and others, I imagine, is that I was
very careful about what I allowed onto/into it. This is/was my main Pro Tools rig, and, as such, was a system I protected like you would not believe. Guess what. Never had a crash.
Never.
Now, 7.5.3? Don't get me started. More problems than I could ever
begin to relate.
When people start bringing in fly-by-night 3rd party software (and, for that matter, hardware) they start having problems. My system had only things that were produced by Apple, Digidesign and MOTU. And these companies were, and are, incredibly anal retentive when it came to system compatibility. A large part of these companies' anal retentiveness stems from 7.5.3. They were already quite careful, to be sure, when publicly announcing a particular system and a particular OS was "compatible" with their hard-/software, but 7.5.3 added many months of testing to their approval processes.
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Originally Posted by D0C_Hol1d@y Everything is capable of becoming infected or attacked. The thing is for the longest time people have only been attacking Microsoft. It's not that they can't attack Mac. The market has always been so small they never bothered. Want to guess whose market is growing and whose threat of attack is as well. You guessed it! |
Perhaps I misread your intitial paragraph, but this seems to be in opposition to your own words. And, if it is not, this reply buttresses the post to which you were (presumably, since it came immediately before yours, and you didn't bother to use the quote feature) replying, that said:
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Security a problem? For any system, to some extent.
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Forgive me if I have misinterpreted something you said. It just seemed you were taking issue.
That reply went farther, detailing the specifics of that "hacking" quite accurately. The user
did start already within the OS. It wasn't a hack from
outside the system. Much like the reporting of any number of things by the "mainstream" (vintage) media, they left this tidbit out.
As for there being, in that posters words (to which you seem to take issue), "a significant qualitative difference as well as quantitative difference in the vulnerabilities of Mac OS X and Windows," it is demonstrably true. The quantitative difference is easily seen. The qualitative difference flows, at least to a degree, therefrom. Some
part of the quality of the Mac OS users' experience comes from the quantity (or, more accurately, the
scarce quantity) of malware for the Mac OS.
I've seen posts to this effect in these very fora from users who now are beside themselves because they based their purchasing decision upon some supposed immunity from viruses and various and sundry other malware, and now their daughters who are away at colleges are having problems because they double-clicked that file that "someone" sent to them. That speaks to both the quantitative and qualitative issues, in my opinion, though what it speaks is, at best, uninformed.
That said, no Mac OS user should fool himself into thinking that malware does not, can not or will not exist for the Mac OS.
As the Mac OS broadens its foothold in the market share more malware will appear. This point harkens back to an earlier point I made in another thread, which you, for some reason unbeknownst to me, found
absurd,and, in which, you even called me
stupid, and to which, to my knowledge, you never again replied, not even in apology.
Any user who thinks that his system, regardless of operating system, when connected in
any way to computers outside his immediate control (be it through an electrical network, a sneakernet, or whatever), is safe from malware is fooling himself. And, eventually, he will pay a price for his hubris.
That said, in answer to the initial poster's question, are Mac users under the gun? Yes. And a prudent Mac user has always assumed he has been.
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