[suigenerisgal]

what are the differnces between macintosh and windows?

[MSM Hobbes]

Originally Posted by suigenerisgal

what are the differnces between macintosh and windows?

Ummmm,,, are you serious in this question?

Lets see...

1. One is made by a warm, friendly, good guy company - other by cold, mean, non-caring, bad guy company...

2. One is an innovator - other is a copycattin' stealer...

3. One is ... well, you get the drift...
And, really,,, I'm not biased!!!

Have you done a google search? Just a few sites that can give a comparison are:
http://www.xvsxp.com/index.php
http://macvspc.info/
http://www.jmusheneaux.com/
http://www.guidenet.net/resources/win_vs_mac.html

[zutty]

Another difference is that Macs DO NOT get virus'

[MSM Hobbes]

Trying not to laugh too loud... going along w/ my 2nd point above, there is this video:

http://video.on.nytimes.com/ifr_main...192.9735214691

[zutty]

haha..Amen..Macs Rule!!

[shyataroo]

Well I happen to be a self-proclaimed mac zelaot so be prepared for a long ludcrisly misspelled and drawn out rant about the differences.

It starts with the following, in 1984 Apple introduced the macintosh (clever name no?) this was the first computer with a GUI availible to the general public (in that it was relativly affordable) it also introduced the mouse. in 1984 bill gates had MS-DOS 3 (perhaps it was 4?) which was just a poorly-written rip off of DOS which microsoft bought the rights to it (thats right microstupid didn't invent DOS) and DOS is just a poorly-coded unix rip-off granted all text based UI's are unix rip-offs but DOS was especially in the way you executed commands. the GUI was revolutionary for its time (even though it shared more than a few quirks with XEROX's PARC that steve jobs saw before the advent of the macintosh) flash forward to 1998 Apple introduces the first computer that isn't beige it also marks the beginning of the end for the Floppy drive why? the iMac a consumer-friendly priced computer with consumer friendly looks, and no nonsense enclousure it also marked the first consumer friendly computer with a USB port (and a infra-red port...don't ask) why is it consumer friendly? to get online takes 3 steps (not including the plugging in of the phone line to the built in modem) 1 take it out of the box 2 plug it in 3 turn it on (there is a commerical with a voice over that has stuff to that effect) ever since then apple has innovated time after time with thier computers the intel core duo came out on the macbook pro before any place else. Apple also still has the ONLY TRUE 64 Bit general public computer the G5 (all the others have 64 bit extention to a 32 bit processor) Apple also introduced the first Quad-CPU (availible to the general public) computer with the Quad 2.5Ghz G5. The Main differences in the macintosh veruss PC is a PC has low grade cases, low grade standard perheprials, low grade internal components and low grade monitors. (In a Interview Steve jobs stated that LG, the maker of the LCD monitors for apple lets apple have first pick in what monitors they want, as a result PC manufactureres get the stuff that apple turns down) Macintosh software is always more thoroughly tested,easier to use (it takes a hafl hour to learn how to use a mac as good as most people need to know vs a few days of tinkering to learn how to use a PC as good as most people need to know)you never hear about how Apple ram sucks do you? you don't ever hear about how Apples hardware is incompatible with itself for some reason or another. As a matter of fact 99.99% of ALL usb/firewire perheprials are plug-'n'-play with mac OS X. and just this past few months apple made another landmark a Quad Xeon Mac Pro IS 700-900 dollars cheaper than a similarly configured Dell. and yet it still works better than the dell (cause lets face it dell sucks) for a easier to read list of reasons why scroll down.


1. Apple/Macintosh software is always easier to use
2. a near-infinate amount more stable (software)
3. looks better
4. Bill gates is the worlds richest man for a good reason, his product has a 97% market share and people need to upgrade it constantly becuase its poorly writtten.
5.Ask anyone who has used both a mac and a PC they will tell you the mac is better.
6. apple invented the iPod microsoft threw up the zune.
7 do I really need to go on?

[Brum]

Well I read this thread becuase I wanted to get to know OS X a little better. Shyataroo, I do believe you just went on a huge worthless rampage. First off, Macs are known for good hardware becuase they are all built by one company, which is the only thing they have going for them, hardware wise. Please, do not compare macontosh to Dell. Dell sucks becuase they put together a CHEAP heap of junk. Dell is a hardware company where Macontosh puts together whole product with both hardware and software. Using Dell is a terrible comparison.

You seem to be a history buff. Correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I am not a history buff), but didn't Bill Gates invent Windows?

I am a huge PC fan typing this on a MAC. Mac is not better. It is too user friendly. OS X is a perfect operating system for someone new to computers, but I would never recommend it to anyone who uses a computer extensively. I grew up on Apple/Macontosh with OS 8 and 9. Once I became acquainted with windows I was hooked for life.

Looks is a personal prefference.

Apple may have started the iPod / MP3 player thing, but iTunes is a pain in the rear to work with. The only thing I like about iTunes is you are able to drag and drop a copy of your music on the desktop or anywhere you want it.

That's just another opinion though.

[shyataroo]

History buff? no. Bill gates did invent windows after apple invented the Consumer-Ready GUI. with numerous, NUMEROUS copyright infrignements that apple sued microsoft for, but stopped because it cost too much money, and they were going bankrupt so in exchange for stopping the suit,and the ability to use quicktime on windows not to mention having internet explorer being the mac standard browser (also the fact that if apple went bankrupt bill gates would have to split up microsoft into mulitple companies to avoid anti-trust suits) bill gates gave apple $150 million, which saved apples *** and set the stage for steve jobs to come back and kick the computer industry in the shins.

You however are right, I did go on a huge worthless rampage.

Conversly you are incorrect about apple building hardware, as apple does not build any hardware of its own (besides the cases, like dell) the difference is apple chooses the higher quality parts (with Extra-low-latency ram etc...) Apple also has a hand in designing all the components for their computers however (as showcased by the Geforce 4 Series)

[VegasACF]

Originally Posted by shyataroo

History buff? no. Bill gates did invent windows after apple invented the Consumer-Ready GUI. with numerous, NUMEROUS copyright infrignements that apple sued microsoft for, but stopped because it cost too much money, and they were going bankrupt so in exchange for stopping the suit,and the ability to use quicktime on windows not to mention having internet explorer being the mac standard browser (also the fact that if apple went bankrupt bill gates would have to split up microsoft into mulitple companies to avoid anti-trust suits) bill gates gave apple $150 million, which saved apples *** and set the stage for steve jobs to come back and kick the computer industry in the shins.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is far from correct. Apple Computer, Inc. v. Microsoft Corp., 35 F.3d 1435 (9th Cir.1994), was the appeal of a suit filed by Apple in the District Court for the Northern District of California (D.C. No. CV-8-20149-VRW), in which Apple contended that Microsoft exceeded the scope of its licensing agreement made by and with Apple to use certain elements of the Apple GUI. Apple alleged that certain of Microsoft's derivative works (the Windows and NewWave GUIs) exceeded the scope of the license. The district court applied the concepts of idea versus expressions, originality, functionality, standardization, public domain, scenes a faire and merger to make its determination what parts of Apple's GUI were copyrightable, and, after the licensed portions were excluded, found that the copyrightable components of the two works were not substantially similar.

The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held that the district court properly applied its analysis, and decided the case appropriately. The only part of the case that the Ninth Circuit reversed had to do with attorney fees.

Apple appealed the Ninth Circuit's decision to the Supreme Court of the United States, which declined to hear the case. This is hardly the situation you suggest. Quite the opposite. This is following the legal trail to its very end.

And the failure (or lack thereof) of Apple as a business entity would have no bearing on any antitrust action against Microsoft.

Originally Posted by shyataroo

You however are right, I did go on a huge worthless rampage.

Add "inaccurate" to that and I'll heartily agree.

Originally Posted by shyataroo

Conversly you are incorrect about apple building hardware, as apple does not build any hardware of its own (besides the cases, like dell) the difference is apple chooses the higher quality parts (with Extra-low-latency ram etc...) Apple also has a hand in designing all the components for their computers however (as showcased by the Geforce 4 Series)

There are very few, if any, companies that oversee every phase of a product's development, from the mining of ore (or whatever raw materials are used) to the finished product rolling off the assembly line. The distinction you make here, while not altogether faulty, is a hypercritical one, splitting a hair that needs not be split in the marketplace of today. Can anyone think of one private or public (not government-owned or operated) company which is solely responsible, from start to finish, from acquiring the raw materials to rolling the completed product off a production line, for the creation of a commercially viable product? If so, I'll wager there are not many.

[shyataroo]

Gasoline. (to adress the last of the above mentioned)

as for the rest of it, I am well aware none of what I have said is based on acutal facts just what I read and remembered from time magazine (or was it newsweek?) anyway in either case, I was mostly inaccurate it seems. (except for the G5 being the only true 64 bit consumer computer) this is not to say that Apple computers are not better than PC's as it has been proven time and again that they are, when it comes to quality.

and if you want to get REAL technical, the G4 is hz per hz faster than every other processor out there. (if you took the G4, gave it a core 2 duo's motherboard/ram speeds and clock speeds it would beat it)

[davidanders]

http://www.macvspc.info/

Butler Gives Tiger Thumbs Up
http://www.it-enquirer.com/main/ite/...oves_of_tiger/

Mad as Hell: I - Switching to Mac
http://securityawareness.blogspot.co...5.html#comment

Apple iMac G5 (2.0 GHz) REVIEW DATE: 05.31.05
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1822054,00.asp

Mac vs. PC
http://macs.about.com/od/faqsandglos.../mac_vs_pc.htm

Fortune: Windows or Mac?
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/we...bucks_workers/

MacIntosh vs. Windows: Choosing to take a bite of the Apple
http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com...094430,00.html

Mac users don't seem to realize that I wasn't reviewing the iPod.
http://www.kantor.com/usatoday/quality_.shtml

Why I Might Switch Back...
http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008631.html

Take Control of Switching to the Mac
http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/swit...1.vaAXbqD4oTq@

PC users can't get no satisfaction
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1040_22-6105569.html

[MSM Hobbes]

davidanders, some interesting sites, but,,, many are somewhat outdated

Find funny the one from Fortune that claims that those that use Mac's are more likely to be working at Starbucks,,, since they are history & liberal-art type majors, whereas those that use Windows are engineers and the such. Please. I'm an engineer, and many of those from my old school actually used either/both platforms - and quite a few, such as me, prefer Macintosh.

[davidanders]

Originally Posted by MSM Hobbes

davidanders, some interesting sites, but,,, many are somewhat outdated

An indication about how long I have been collecting them.
Would you like the full load?
.

[davidanders]

WinOS was designed and marketed to the most numerous users - business network users.
Thus the applications were given powers to read and write to the OS.
After MS recognized the internet as useful and powerful, the browser and email applications were builtin and given powers to write to the OS.
This presupposed that the PC was behind a powerful firewall and was watched over by white-coated geeks with large salaries.

OS9 was designed for single users, most ports were closed by design and required knowledge to open.

OSX is based on BSD Unix - a network server. Most ports are closed and need to be opened.

Virus and trojan writers fall within three narrow boundaries.
1] Scriptkiddies - they download readily available apps that create malware.
Not available for OSX, as far as I know.
2] Malware for egos - they produce malware for standing in a community.
The most likely to produce the first wide-spread OSX virus or trojan or malware.
3] Malware for profit - the most prolific Win malware authors - dependent on builtin Windows flaws and PCs without the most current updates.

Windows with Firefox for web browsing and Thunderbird for email is MUCH less liable to be hacked, virused, trojanned, hijacked and cracked.
.

[MSM Hobbes]

Originally Posted by davidanders

An indication about how long I have been collecting them.
Would you like the full load?
.

Thanks, but imagine that I've quite a few of the same ones.