[Suprem]

Hello every one. I've been gone for some time, but I am now back. I have a question and maybe some one can help me out with it, it's got to do with getting a mac. I'm looking to get out of the windows OS for good and I have heard nothing but good reviews from every one that I've encountered regarding macs.... Well I would like to know is why should I transfer over to mac and what would I get out of it in a long run?

I basically want you to convince me to get one. I don't like windows any more and I'm fully aware of the problems that it has. I'm not looking to have another OS laying around my bedroom floor, I already have 5+, so there is no need for another one. I'm looking for something that has some serious security in it and some thing that I can actually have fun with instead of it being an all around work station.

[Headrush]

You answer the question yourself: "I don't like Windows anymore"

If you get a Intel Mac you have a choice of running Windows, OS X, and Linux.
Try them all and stay with the one you like best.

If you're looking for "feature" arguments why you should, there are some other threads with the exact same question that should cover it.

[Serge_N_Gin]

Ultimately you need to determine exactly what you plan to do on the computer and do as much research as you can about any compatability issues ... we can advise you on a particular Mac that you have in mind but when it comes to a Platform it's got to be your call ...

We'll help you transfer over to a Mac but I won't tell you why you should do it ...

But I will add that if you are fed up with Windows I'm confident the future is looking bright for you ...

[Weisbrod]

You should get a mac because not only does it run smoothly with less hassle... it is also undeniably the most flexible platform available...

Did I mention it has applescript... sure sure... what's that you say... only one of the best kept secrets in the whole known universe... ( god I love that syntax )

plus it was designed to be a usable system... it was their focus from the start and true to this day that's where it shines...

I am so damn mad that I type this post to you from a pc... I grew up on a mac and the last three years without one have been somewhat... creatively and developmentally stifling....

You pay for what you get... get a mac... you will not regret it...

[ThreeDee912]

PHP Code:

property mac : true

if mac > pc then
    set mac to true
    display dialog "Get a Mac"
else
    set mac to false
    display dialog "Get a Mac anyway"
end if 


[ferrija1]

It sounds like a Mac would be for you, but if you let us know a little more about how you're going to use it we can help even more.

[loserOlimbs]

My experience:

Had G4s running OS9 and OSX, also the iMAC and eMAC.

The pros;
A curvy design for the cases designed by Willy Wonka I'm sure.
Quick GUI

Cons;
Gui is counterintuitive and intrusive
Lack of support from third parties, games and apps especially though this is slowly changing.
My Macs all had problems running multiple apps, photoshop 7 and Safari seemed to be hardcoded to crash when run together.

Lastly, they take a $700 PC, put it in Willy Wonka case, put the $100 OSX on it and sell the box for $2500!

Apple II was the primetime for Apple.

[VegasACF]

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

Wonderful insight

Then again, you list Wikipedia among your list of "useful research tools." Never mind. Strike the above assessment of your post.

:|

[Couriant]

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

My experience:

Had G4s running OS9 and OSX, also the iMAC and eMAC.

The pros;
A curvy design for the cases designed by Willy Wonka I'm sure.
Quick GUI

Cons;
Gui is counterintuitive and intrusive
Lack of support from third parties, games and apps especially though this is slowly changing.
My Macs all had problems running multiple apps, photoshop 7 and Safari seemed to be hardcoded to crash when run together.

Lastly, they take a $700 PC, put it in Willy Wonka case, put the $100 OSX on it and sell the box for $2500!

Apple II was the primetime for Apple.

sounds like you haven't been on a new mac

The Intel machine is much better designed and the OS too.

[loserOlimbs]

Updated OS, and Intel machines.

The OS says the stabilty should have increased, but the Intel machine really upsets me because you are paying a premium for regular Intel hardware in a pretty case.
Sadly this does not mean the GUI has improved any! Still intrusive and counterintuitive.

Now I will compliment the displays, they are very good for those who need accurate print color displayed, but they aren't the only company that does this either.

Lastly, www.Wikipedia.org is a great resource, and independent research groups have found it is just as accurate, sometimes more accurate than what are accepted as reputable resources like The Encyclopedia Britanica.

[VegasACF]

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

Lastly, www.Wikipedia.org is a great resource, and independent research groups have found it is just as accurate, sometimes more accurate than what are accepted as reputable resources like The Encyclopedia Britanica.

None of which you cite. Which puts you at the same level of credibility as Wikipedia. Maybe you want to recruit some Wiki users to support your notion, since that's the way Wiki is updated. Kudos. Perhaps you don't keep up with the news, but the Wiki entries for a vast number of subjects have been created or edited by those with a vested interest in the best spin that can be put on said subjects.

Now, when you want to cite some actual scholarly source for your ramblings you may redeem yourself. But only slightly. Once someone cites a questionable source all further assertions by that someone are questionable at best. Sorry.

In any case, I continue to scoff, not only at you, but at your sweeping assertions based on hardware three generations old, but on the OS that was contemporary to those times. You want to compare apples to raisins. Sorry, but the better comparison is apples to grapes. And in that arena you fail miserably.

Maybe I'll compare the latest build of Mac OS X 10.4.10 to Windows 95. That would put things in a perspective that is similar to your frame of reference. Nah, no reason to do that. Vista is still a pale comparison to even the first iteration of Mac OS X.

[Headrush]

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

Lastly, www.Wikipedia.org is a great resource, and independent research groups have found it is just as accurate, sometimes more accurate than what are accepted as reputable resources like The Encyclopedia Britanica.

Problem is your facts are comparing Apple products to custom built white boxes.

Go to Dell and compare either a laptop or small desktop with the same parts as Apple's line and you will see the prices are almost identical.

You can argue you can make a custom white box yourself cheaper, that's fine.
The implication that Apple is an overpriced manufacturer compared to any other all-in-one box you would buy from any other manufacturer is a vestige of the past that people just won't let die.

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

Sadly this does not mean the GUI has improved any! Still intrusive and counterintuitive.

Definitely personal opinion and not fact. Millions of people ever day say otherwise.
Drag and drop under OS X blows away any other OS, Windows, KDE, Gnome, Solaris. (and is incredibly powerful)
Problem with OS X is that all the glossy features get the spotlight and some of the incredible functionality is often missed even my seasoned users.

[Weisbrod]

Originally Posted by loserOlimbs

Gui is counterintuitive and intrusive
Lack of support from third parties, games and apps especially though this is slowly changing.
My Macs all had problems running multiple apps, photoshop 7 and Safari seemed to be hardcoded to crash when run together.

Right... Like a can take a snapshot of my desktop ( and have a file to show for it ), part all windows to show the desktop with built in GUI shortcuts... OSX is slow and counter intuitive... just like dos is robust and full of features... when you start with **** you end up with **** no matter how much **** you pile on top of it...

Windows will never do this...

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/maco...6/08/guiscale/

And here's a recent convert gushing over the OSX gui

http://jumpingship.wordpress.com/200...ista-to-taste/

Plus I can run apps usually only found on an irix machine... Imagine that an OS based on unix... been around since the seventies... still going strong...

Windows seems to crash for me all the time too... especially when I run that **** called java... or... any video application on the planet for that matter... God... and swapping apps while using a scratch disk is just too painful to bear...

Now that I think about it... I can't even run Outlook without problems... Threaded email? What's a thread?


But honestly... This should say it all... Even Google doesn't like microsoft...

http://www.360psg.com/content/pages/...is-malware.php

Oh... but your right... you have more games... they all rock too...

Don't make me benchmark you...

[hermes]

I bought my first one less than six months ago. They obviously do not have the hardware versatility of PC but I like mine:
Because it starts up and shuts down quickly and easily and is stable, almost never crashing.
Because my user experience is no longer 50% housekeeping and firefighting.
Because the kids can't 'work' it.

[Suprem]

This is all great info and will come in handy for later on in the future. I should have listed what I plan to do with it "or" what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something that is all around- speed, security, support, easy to learn (Which will take time I know), playing games when bored, programming... Well to sum it all up something that is not like windows (Swiss Cheese)

I know that I have said that I don't like windows and more due to the "Issues" that they have, but it still doesn't actually mean that I won't still use it from time to time. I'm looking to get into something different and stay out of the windows part for good unless I actually need it.