[matthew0155]

i suggest stop talking about it here since they do not condone illegal activity look up how to dual boot with the OSx86 method.

[ferrija1]

Originally Posted by matthew0155

i suggest stop talking about it here since they do not condone illegal activity look up how to dual boot with the OSx86 method.

Hypocrite.

[matthew0155]

what, i didnt tell him how to do it, i just mearly pointed him in the right direction. Nothing hypocritical.

[namenotfound]

Originally Posted by matthew0155

what, i didnt tell him how to do it, i just mearly pointed him in the right direction. Nothing hypocritical.

Yes it is

That's like saying to someone they can't do something, but at the same time shaking your head up/down to imply that they can.

You told him exactly what to google to get the answer he needs, after telling him you can't give him the answer

[pelokwin]

Ok now I am confused...???
How is putting a Mac OS on a non-Apple computer illegal? You are paying for the OS not the whole Apple "experi. I mean if Apple did not want it done then why wouldn't they just right something into the software. I know there are laws against say making a copy of software and using it on a second computer. I thought I heard that Windows had some sort of "you only get three downloads" thing in their XP

[namenotfound]

Originally Posted by pelokwin

Ok now I am confused...???
How is putting a Mac OS on a non-Apple computer illegal?

Do you ever read license agreements on software? You do know that even if you don't read them, just using the software makes you legally bound to what the license says?

Well it says on the End User License Agreement (EULA) for Mac OS that you can only use it on an apple-labeled computer.

THAT is what makes it's illegal to use it on an non apple-labeled computer

[pelokwin]

of coarse like most folks no I did not read the whole thing, but "Well it says on the End User License Agreement (EULA) for Mac OS that you can only use it on an apple-labeled computer." does not really tell me the basis for it . Maybe I should have said " Why does Apple need to restrict it's customers to only use Mac OS on Apple hardware (other than the obvious "so we make more money" ) I always thought that Apple products only worked with apple products and in a against the "world of Windows"* way I thought it was cool. This whole thing kind of reminds me of why I hate the "industry" of music. If I pay for a product it should be mine to do with as I please...maybe insted of selling software they should say they are renting it to you

*The whole world of Windows thing is not an attack of Win. but an observation that Win. is used way more in the world than any other OS

[namenotfound]

Apple isn't a software company, they are a hardware company. They make their own operating system so the hardware is functional. You're free to use Windows or Linux on an apple computer if you wish.

They limit use of the OS to apple-labeled computers only because they know that if they allowed you to use it on other brand computers, that you will and they'll lose money. Most of their money comes from the hardware, they don't make as much in the software as they do the hardware. And considering they are a hardware company, it would be pretty foolish on their part to allow you to use the OS on other computers.

Microsoft is a software company, that's all they do (aside from making mice, keyboards, and routers). They don't make computers, thus they couldn't care less what brand computer you use their OS on, just as long as you use their OS.

So to recap:
Apple wants you to use their hardware, they don't care as much if you use their OS.
Microsoft wants you to use their OS, they don't care at all what computer you use it on.

[pelokwin]

wow!! That was one of the most well put answers to one of my rant-e questions I think I have ever got.

[ferrija1]

If you notice, OS X costs around $120, while their machines are all upwards of $1000 (besides that little gray box), if you could buy OS X and put it on a Windows machine, Apple's computer industry would quickly fade away.

[Gigacore]

Installing MAC OS on any other machine than Macintosh is against apple's EULA and its Illegal

[Serge_N_Gin]

Originally Posted by pelokwin

How is putting a Mac OS on a non-Apple computer illegal? You are paying for the OS not the whole Apple "experience"

Originally Posted by namenotfound

Apple wants you to use their hardware, they don't care as much if you use their OS.
Microsoft wants you to use their OS, they don't care at all what computer you use it on.

Originally Posted by pelokwin

wow!! That was one of the most well put answers to one of my rant-e questions I think I have ever got.

I agree! Very succinctly put, namenotfound, kudos and stuff

[VegasACF]

One more tidbit that will shed a bit more light on the subject:

When you "buy" a disc that has software on it you are not "buying" the software. You are buying a license to use that software. You are a licensee, not an owner. There is a huge legal difference. That text that pretty much everybody just clicks "Okay" on to make it go away and begin the installation process explains this, though it's largely in legalese, so it may not be entirely understandable.

Because of the way copyright law is set up it is incumbent upon the holders of copyrights (that is to say, owners of copyrighted property) to only allow licenses to use (or whatever verb is applicable, given the copyright) the thing that is copyrighted. To allow any greater rights to that is to erode the copyright that is owned by the owners.

You don't own that software. You didn't buy it. You paid for the right to be a licensee, and, as such, you must abide by the terms and conditions that come with the software. One of those restrictions, in the case of the MacOS, is that you agree to only install it on approved (i.e., Apple-branded) hardware.

The same is true with music, books on "tape," or any other sort of intellectual (that is, not physical) property. You do own the disc that it came on. But you are only a licensee of the owner to the information stored on that disc.

Hope this helps someone.

[pelokwin]

Again...very clear and in plain english thanks
on a more sarcastic note: all that helped me to remember how much I miss the days when you bought a hammer and the next day you owned a hammer.
I do understand the "why" but I still feel like I am getting short changed

[namenotfound]

Originally Posted by pelokwin

I do understand the "why" but I still feel like I am getting short changed

You could always go with Linux. It's both free as in speech and free as in beer.

You can modify it as much as you want and re-distribute it as you wish. It is one OS that you can really say you "own".