[Reinheld]

Howdy. Does anyone out there know how to enable the GL settings on my ATI Rage Fury card? I have just installed it and loaded all drivers and there is no GL option in any games. I used the most recent driver update from ATI.

A little additional info.... There is also a Rage 128 Demo program (i guess it is supposed to show off the abilitys of the card) that I try to run. When it starts there is a list of all the features in use by the card i.e. Texture mapping, alpha stipling(?) and about 18 other things all of which are checked( I would assume this means they are working properly). But there is also a line for AGP texturing which has a big red X on it. Could this mean my AGP is not working, and if so would that disable the GL features and nothing else?

Some System info:
Atrend 6220 board
PIII-500
228 meg ram
Yamaha YMF-724 soundcard
Hitachi DVD GD-2500
LS-120
19 Gig WD AC42 Hard drive

I hope this qualifys as a hardware prob, otherwise I apologize in advance.

Thanks.

[Caper]

This is certainly a hardware problem.

And this is the best I can do for you:

<a href="http://support.atitech.ca/infobase/3144.html">ATI Support</a>

Let us know if this helps.

[LarryCore]

What do you mean there is 'no GL option' in your games? Putting a GL card into your computer is not going to change your games. They have to have GL support already in them. Adding the card simply allows you to USE the GL option.

[Caper]

That's basically what it says in the link I left. Just by installing the drivers enables OpenGL.

[Reinheld]

Ok, how bout' "the GL option doesn't work"? When I try to launch GLQuake (which previously worked) it chokes and gives me an error of 'required .dll file, GLIDE2X.DLL, was not found'. I always had this file before, so I would assume that it is either not compatable with the new card, or was somehow removed from the system. Apparently it was removed somehow since I cannot 'Find' it anywhere in the c:\windows folder or sub-folders. Can I just a get generic Glide2x.dll off the net, because the ATI card didn't come with any and the ATI Drivers page does not have any either. Like I said before, there is a OpenGL settings tab on my propertys that appeared when this card was installed and it seems to be set up. I would assume(hereby making an ***-out of U and ME) that this would mean that windows THINKS that the GL is properly installed with all the drivers, possibly not.
Anyway, if I could just get any GL drivers from any site, just say so and problem solved. Although I still wonder why the AGP Texturing on the Rage 128 Demo program was X'd out.

Hope that clears things up.

[This message has been edited by Reinheld (edited 07-31-1999).]

[LarryCore]

Well, I'm not too big into games, but from what I know of drivers, you need to get the right one. How would you feel about us moving this to the software forum? It really sounds like a software issue, and maybe someone there will have a better idea of what to do...

[Reinheld]

I've got no problem with moving it. Should I repost the original, or can you move the whole topic over there? The only reason I was thinking it was a hardware problem, is that AGP texturing being knocked out on that demo program. Also another program, provided by ATI in the software bundle- Extreme:Lite, also chokes as soon as it tries to run in GL mode. Anyway, if you think it is software let's move it there. I spent a buck and a half on this card and would like it to do everything it advertised on the box, so whatever it takes....

Reinheld

[Caper]

Larry can move it himself, so, after next time he posts, you'll find it over there.

[This message has been edited by Caper (edited 08-01-1999).]

[LarryCore]

It is highly unlikely that it is hardware related - the kinds of things you are describing fit in perfectly with driver issues. Generally we cover driver issues in the hardware forum, but since these seem to be game type drivers, I think you will be better served in software.

So - {POOF}- this is now in the software forum.

[Spigot]

If you're going to be doing alot of gaming, I'd suggest returning the ATI card. It's definitely the weak link in your monster system. Get a card that uses either the TNT2 from nVidia or the Voodoo3 from 3dfx. The TNT2 Ultra from Hercules is probably the fastest 3D card out right now and it's 100% OpenGL compliant. Any new games that come out will definitely run correctly on it.

The Glide file you are talking about is a proprietary OpenGL mini driver from 3dfx. For years, in order to run a game using Glide, you had to have a 3dfx card. Creative Labs is currently working on a Glide emulator that allows their cards to work with Glide.

[Reinheld]

Yeah, thats what I was afraid of. Unfortunately I bought the card on the net and had to wait to install it a few weeks (It was the first part on the new system I got, the processor was last so I had to wait on that) so any return is long gone . I will probably just list it on auction and if it fetches a decent price I will probably get the Voodoo 3. Anyway, that still doesn't mean it shouldn't do what it says it can, so the search goes on for the solution.

Thanks,
Reinheld

[gt]

I use the same card and hated it at first, now I like it.

Try these links if you haven't already.

http://www.lightspeed2000.com/
http://www.rageunderground.com/r128tweaker.html

gt

[Reinheld]

I take it, since you love the card now, you have your games running in GL mode correctly. I guess that gives me hope. Thanks for the links, I'll check them out. Did you also have the same problems, or different ones?

Thanks,
Reinheld

[This message has been edited by Reinheld (edited 08-04-1999).]

[Reinheld]

Yippie!!! I found the problem. Well, someone else tipped me off, THEN I found the problem. I asked around some guys that have the card and have got it working, and was told that (first) the ATI drivers suck, and I should install Lightspeed 2000 drivers. Then, (and I think this was actualy it) I had to remove any old opengl32.dll on the system. I had previously only deleted the one in Windows/system. This must have been it, because now it works (at least in Quake, Quake II and Half-life).
I just wanted to let you guys know that the problem was solved and this thred could be closed.
I appreciate all the info and help. GT, in particular, thanks for the links! That's where I found my fellow saps.(I mean proud ATI Rage Fury owners)
If anyone else was having this problem, and wants any specific help as to what fixed it for me, write Reinheld@mediaone.net since I don't get to check the forums much.

Thanks,
Reinheld


[This message has been edited by Reinheld (edited 08-05-1999).]

[LarryCore]

Thanks for letting us know what happened. I'll go ahead and close this down, and also put a copy of it in the Archives so any future ATI Rage owners can easily find it.