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Same Sex Marriages: Yes? No? Why?

View Poll Results: Do you accept or opposeSame sex marriages
Yes, I accept Same sex marriages. 20 35.71%
No, I oppose Same sex marriages. 29 51.79%
No, I oppose Same sex marriages but accept the right 5 8.93%
No opinion or "other" 2 3.57%
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01-Jul-2005, 10:33 PM #1996
No, why not let them go down to city hall and have a deputy clerk or someone marry them. But the funny thing is that you still havent answered the question. What is YOUR problem with gay marriage?
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01-Jul-2005, 10:51 PM #1997
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In the meantime, If my GM car costs more, because GM has been forced to medically insure a husband's husband, THEN I have a problem.
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How would the world populate, if
everyone had gay parents??
It will be interesting to see some census stats in the next few years regarding the number of gay and lesbian families. Approximately 3000 (I think, might only be 300) gay couples have been wed in Canada. There is roughly 32,000,000 citizens in Canada. What is that, one fiftieth of a percent of Canadians are married and gay? Let's assume that one million Canadians are gay. Three percent. Let's also assume GM Canada employs 20000 Canadians. 600 of them are gay, three percent. The other 19400 are heterosexual. Let's now assume that every one of them is married. Now, what group is going to make your car cost more due to benefit packages that extend to dependents?

My question, and I'm sure everyone else wonders: do I get to be the Maid of Honour at my ex-girlfriend-turned-lesbian's wedding? Can I wear a peach tuxedo? Who gets to choose who gets the best man at an all guy wedding? You must have a Maid of Honour, right? If there are two grooms, how does the usher distinguish which side of the aisle each guest sits on?
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01-Jul-2005, 10:52 PM #1998
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No, why not let them go down to city hall and have a deputy clerk or someone marry them. But the funny thing is that you still havent answered the question. What is YOUR problem with gay marriage?
You won't get a direct answer from any of the people who oppose SSM, because they know the real answer will just be a confirmation of what we already know, that they don't like "dem" homos because they don't like "dem" homos. It's that simple and we all know it. Religion has just become a very thick shield behind which these bigots hide, which is in my opinion the height of blasphemy. To twist the words of someone who preached inclusion and compassion to suit their vile agendas is surely a first class ticket on the brimstone express.
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01-Jul-2005, 10:55 PM #1999
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No, why not let them go down to city hall and have a deputy clerk or someone marry them. But the funny thing is that you still havent answered the question. What is YOUR problem with gay marriage?
Marriage should be between a man and a woman. I believe homosexuality is a sexual sin, like adultery, and fornication. If people have a different ethic that is their business, but don't try to impose it on people who don't think the same.
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01-Jul-2005, 10:55 PM #2000
TRS obviously suffers from a bit of homophobia---Let me assure you TSR--GM already gives these benefits as do many of the major corporations. Now seeing that won't up your costs, tell us why you are against gay marriages?
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01-Jul-2005, 11:17 PM #2001
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If people have a different ethic that is their business, but don't try to impose it on people who don't think the same.
By that statement, you have no business telling gay people what they can and can't do. It's not like they will be having weddings and sex in your backyard. They have more style than that.
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01-Jul-2005, 11:30 PM #2002
I could care less who marry's who as long as they pay taxes like my spouse and myself.lol
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02-Jul-2005, 12:31 AM #2003
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By that statement, you have no business telling gay people what they can and can't do. It's not like they will be having weddings and sex in your backyard. They have more style than that.
It's not my business what gays do, but there will be some radical gays who will try to impose on people with different beliefs.

Such as, insisting a minister marry you when his religion doesn't condone gay marriage.

Or as in the case of the hotel, filing a discrimination complaint against a business that doesn't want to do your reception due to religious beliefs.

There will be instances of "testing" going on by radical gays. The majority will want peace and handle it in an intelligent way.
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02-Jul-2005, 12:43 AM #2004
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It's not my business what gays do, but there will be some radical gays who will try to impose on people with different beliefs.

Such as, insisting a minister marry you when his religion doesn't condone gay marriage.

Or as in the case of the hotel, filing a discrimination complaint against a business that doesn't want to do your reception due to religious beliefs.

There will be instances of "testing" going on by radical gays. The majority will want peace and handle it in an intelligent way.

OH, so I get it Poochee--you have no problem with the concept of gay marriages, you just think the radical gays will ruin it for everyone. Thats a start!
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02-Jul-2005, 01:00 AM #2005
http://forums.techguy.org/civilized-debate/141126-same-sex-marriages-yes-no-post2741038.html

Make a note of gibble's older post.

No one is forcing ministers to wed gays. Some are welcoming the new law, others abhor it, and the only people who are forced to wed gays are those who marry under civil code, not religious dogma. Remember that the passing of laws (any laws) has absolutely nothing to do with chuches.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"

http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstate101/a/what.htm

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Separation of church and state is a two-way street. It isn’t just about restricting what the government can do with religion, but also what religious bodies can do with the government. Religious groups cannot dictate to or control the government. They cannot cause the government to adopt their particular doctrines as policy for everyone, they cannot cause the government to restrict other groups, etc.
You have nothing to fear, so long as the churches have good lawyers to defend their right to discriminate against gays. Governments and courts have no jurisdiction over what churches do.
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02-Jul-2005, 01:02 AM #2006
If you read this forum, there are numerous good points given as to the harm caused by homosexual unions such as the increase in domestic violence, the increase in divorce and others. It's amazing that people that scream about closed minds and the rights of the few are too closed minded to care that the rights of all are being threatened.
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Maybe we should just abolish weddings altogether. Perhaps that would put a stop to domestic violence. And just how are the rights of the all being threatened?
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02-Jul-2005, 01:09 AM #2008
Jack: Face it...not everyone here holds your view of homosexual marriage....not everyone here cares to embrace the concept of homosexuals marrying...I don't see anyone who opposes homosexual marriage asking why you think it's so grand!
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OH, so I get it Poochee--you have no problem with the concept of gay marriages, you just think the radical gays will ruin it for everyone. Thats a start!
I don't believe in same sex marriage for religious reasons. It is a sexual sin the same as adultery, fornication and so on. Is that what you want to hear? I guess I thought you knew that ablut me already.

After saying that...No, I do not hate homosexuals. That is usually the next question.
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02-Jul-2005, 01:34 AM #2010
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And just how are the rights of the all being threatened?
Thank you, you prove my point nicely.
 

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