[~Candy~]

Again, I will state, simply amazing......perhaps they passed the medical marijuana laws there for another purpose

[plschwartz]

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20.../index_np.html

Sept. 16, 2003 | The U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco picked a fight with the Supreme Court Monday, and Gov. Gray Davis may prove to be the winner.

In a classic case of "what goes around comes around," three Democratic judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit held Monday that the Supreme Court's 2000 decision in Bush vs. Gore compelled them to postpone the Oct. 7 recall election. The reason: Punch-card voting machines -- like those that produced the hanging chads of Florida fame -- are so prone to error that voters in the six California counties that still use the machines are 2.5 times more likely to have their votes thrown out than are voters in counties with more modern balloting equipment.

The ruling appears to be a victory for Gray Davis. If it survives, Davis gets more time to repair his image -- and a shot at having the election on March 2, 2004, the day that California Democrats will likely turn out in large numbers to vote in the state's presidential primary. ...

[Mulderator]

Originally posted by plschwartz:
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20.../index_np.html

Sept. 16, 2003 | The U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco picked a fight with the Supreme Court Monday, and Gov. Gray Davis may prove to be the winner.

In a classic case of "what goes around comes around," three Democratic judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit held Monday that the Supreme Court's 2000 decision in Bush vs. Gore compelled them to postpone the Oct. 7 recall election. The reason: Punch-card voting machines -- like those that produced the hanging chads of Florida fame -- are so prone to error that voters in the six California counties that still use the machines are 2.5 times more likely to have their votes thrown out than are voters in counties with more modern balloting equipment.

Well, the problem with that is that those machinese were fine last November when Democrats swept many of the state offices (which is typical in this half-arsed welfare state where people living of the backs of those working is growing larger every year). The problem is the old saying of be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. The liberals keep asking for socialism and they're getting it here in California, along with a myriad of other problems (same ones every socialistic country faces). Honest to God if you people saw the way things worked here it would shock even some of the more moderate liberals. This is state only DN could love from a political point of view.

[Stoner]

[Stoner]

This would be a Bad Hair day in California!

Ha ha ha ha aha LOL!

[Mulderator]

The Democrats' laboratory: The host organism dies
Ann Coulter (archive)


August 14, 2003 | Print | Send


In June 2002, the liberal American Prospect magazine was hailing California as a "laboratory" for Democratic policies. With "its Democratic governor, U.S. senators, state legislature and congressional delegation," author Harold Meyerson gushed, "California is the only one of the nation's 10 largest states that is uniformly under Democratic control." In the Golden State, Meyerson said, "the next New Deal is in tryouts." (Can't you just feel the tension building?)

Just a few years before that, the impresario of this adventure in Democratic governance, Gov. Gray Davis, was being touted as presidential material – which wasn't nearly as insulting a thing to say to a politician back then as it is now. Analyst Charles Cook said Davis was "a major player in the Democratic Party," with qualities that would "serve him well should Davis try to test his national ambitions." Davis' fellow Democratic governor, Gary Locke of Washington, called Davis "truly the rising star among governors across America, and among Democrats he's so highly respected as one of the new breed of moderate, centrist Democrats." The only Davis adjective he left out was "money-grubbing."

Around the time of the 2000 Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, Davis was forced to announce that he would decline offers to be Al Gore's running mate. The Associated Press hailed the match-up, noting that Davis and Al Gore were "strikingly similar in background, outlook and demeanor." Perhaps their campaign slogan could have been "bland and blander."

Gore advisers cooed that "Gray would certainly be one of those names that would have to be in the mix." Both were said to be "cautious, moderate 'New Democrats.'" Both were veterans, after a fashion, of Vietnam, which would make a Gore-Davis presidential ticket the only compelling argument yet in favor of friendly fire.

California is, in fact, a perfect petri dish of Democratic policies. This is what happens when you let Democrats govern: You get a state – or as it's now known, a "job-free zone" – with a $38 billion deficit, which is larger than the budgets of 48 states. There are reports that Argentina and the Congo are sending their fiscal policy experts to Sacramento to help stabilize the situation. California's credit rating has been slashed to junk-bond status, and citizens are advised to stock up for the not-too-far-off day when cigarettes and Botox become the hard currency of choice. At this stage, we couldn't give California back to Mexico.

Democrats governed their petri dish as they always govern. They buy the votes of government workers with taxpayer-funded jobs, salaries and benefits – and then turn around and accuse the productive class of "greed" for wanting their taxes cut. This has worked so well nationally that more people in America now work for the government than work in any sort of manufacturing job.

Strictly adhering to formula in California, as the private sector was bleeding jobs and money, Gov. Davis signed off on comically generous pensions for government workers. Government employees in the Golden State earn more than the private-sector workers who pay their salaries – and that's excluding the job security, health benefits and 90 percent pension plans that come with "Irish welfare," as government jobs used to be called.

Economists refer to this backward ratio between public and private-sector salaries as "France." (Inasmuch as they are paid more and work less than private-sector employees, perhaps we could ease up on treating public schoolteachers like Mother Teresa washing the feet of the poor in Calcutta.) The public-sector unions repaid Davis with massive contributions to his re-election campaign.

Davis bought himself re-election and is now the most hated officeholder in America. The people of California are willing to plunge their state into humiliation and chaos just to get rid of him. The fact that Arianna Huffington hasn't been laughed off a stage yet is a pretty good gauge of the public's frustration with Davis.

And yet, Bill and Hillary Clinton and the rest of the Democratic Party think Gray Davis is doing a super job. Democrats have denounced the recall – a genuine citizens' revolt – as a "circus." According to recent polls, two out of three people in this overwhelmingly Democratic state want Davis out, and still the recall is being called a "Republican power grab."

Most touchingly, Democrats claim to be shocked at the exorbitant cost of a recall election. They were not such penny-pinchers when contemplating Enron-style pensions for school crossing guards. Nor did their fiscal conservatism kick in when Davis announced this week that he would sign legislation providing "intolerance and hatred control training" for all California schoolteachers. Yeah, this is the guy who wants another crack at straightening out the budget.

National Republicans had been enjoying watching the Democrats' petri dish disintegrate into a parasite's paradise and are reluctant to let Davis go. So there were long faces all around when the Terminator threw his hat in the ring. No longer content to play an evil robot, actor Arnold Schwarzenegger will now be running against one. Far be it from me to tell Republicans to stop enjoying the Democrats' pain, but California is about to fall into the ocean.

Either Schwarzenegger will dismantle the government employees' Versailles Palace, or California will continue to be a laboratory for failed liberal policies.

[Stoner]

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[angelize56]

^ Hey LoveBug...you're up early! Good morning Smilin' Jack! Have a great day!! Take care! Sparky

[Stoner]

Good morning, 'Goddess of Random'

Yep, up early most mornings.

The early bird is supposed to get the worm,
but I see that Chris has already found Ann C. this morning.

I've heard of the old remedy of using gunpowder in dog food(for dogs that is )
Maybe Ann C. needs the treatment? A little gunpowder wouldn't hurt her in the least
The next treatment should be, maybe for rabies?

[angelize56]

I see you're your usual charming self! Have a nice day! It's raining like mad here!

[Stoner]

Hi Angel

Fresh, new mornin' and another Doonesbury to go with it

[Stoner]

California----Heh!

"Comedy Central" perhaps





http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...news-headlines

Debate zingers

By Vincent J. Schodolski
Tribune national correspondent

September 25, 2003


Republican candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger to independent Arianna Huffington: "If you want to campaign against Bush, go to New Hampshire. You're in the wrong state right now."

As Huffington tried to respond, he added: "You need a little more decaf."


Democratic Lt. Gov Cruz Bustamante, mocking Schwarzenegger talking about the incompetence of career politicians: "Yes, Arnold, go ahead. Yeah, right."


Moderator Stan Statham, trying to break up a clash between Bustamante and Huffington: "Cruz, Arianna, Cruz, Arianna, Cruz, Arianna . . . "


Green Party candidate Peter Camejo: "I want the rich to pay their fair share."


Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock: "Illegal immigration is the process of getting in front of them [legal immigrants] in line."


Bustamante, responding to the assertion that the state Legislature was spending too much money: "Clearly we spent too much. I've decided to face this realistically now."


Huffington to Schwarzenegger: "Stop interrupting. Let me finish. . . . This is the way you treat women, we know that. But not now."


Schwarzenegger in response to Huffington: "I would just like to say that I just realized I have a perfect part for you in `Terminator 4."'


Camejo: "I'm trying to be respectful to everyone here."

Moderator Statham: "Let me remind you this is not Comedy Central."

[DNeurococo]

Did anyone notice that, during the debates, the American flag was positioned so as to be in the background of camera shots of Arnold - - but the background for all of the other candidates was blank?

I know this sounds like a small point, but little things like that really matter. They have a big psychological effect, and campaign managers stage big fights over matters exactly like that.

#$DN

[ComputerFix]

I watched the debate for about 10-15 minutes.....I did think I was watching Comedy Central.

[deh]

Flag behind him or not I think the major fact is there is no way that debate would have been nationally televised if not for Arnold so the flag was just the icing on the cake. I doubt it would've been televised locally if not for Arnold.

Personally I thought Arnold was sketchy but did a couple good one liners. Doesn't mean he won't win though, after all this is California were talking about.

I know the Libs will disagree (that's ok though) but I think McClintock did the best.