[Mulderator]

That's right. I'm sure you watched Arnold last night on Jay Leno. He's told it like it is. The liberals took this great state, which was an economic machine for decades under Repulbicans, Reagan, Dukmejian, and Wilson and destroyed it in a matter of a few years. So fed up are the people of California, that they are going to throw your leading liberal governor, Grey Davis out on his arse!! (which hasn't been done since 1921) And expect more liberals to follow Davis out the door.

We're all tired of being taxed to death. We're tired of all the catering to Democratic special interests groups. Time for common sense to take back California!!! The people have spoken, Rep!!!

[Gibble]

And if you don't like it, you'll be terminated

[bassetman]

Governor Kindergarden Cop! Hmmm

[columbo]

They should force Davis to compete in some sort of "Running Man" type gauntlet....

[twotugs]

I think the fine people of California ought to give serious consideration to a serious candidate:



http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...man/index.html

[SexyTech]

Originally posted by twotugs:
I think the fine people of California ought to give serious consideration to a serious candidate:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/...man/index.html

LOL!

Here's an interesting tidbit from CNN...

Coleman, whose candidacy as an independent is being promoted by an Oakland newspaper to protest the recall process, said that he thinks Schwarzenegger will win. Coleman even said he would vote for the Terminator.

"Now that Arnold is in the race, there is no race. Gray Davis needs to pack his bags," said Coleman, 35, who played a boy named Arnold in the TV series from 1978 to 1986. "I'm going to stay in the race, but I'm not going to campaign."

Hmmm.....

Whashu talkinbout twotugs?

[SyscoKid]

Gallagher's on the ballot too? Excellent! A Sledge-o-matic in every kitchen!

[twotugs]

Mr. T needs to get in on the action.

http://firefly.sparse.org/~mrt/cgi-b...n%2Findex.html

[Rep]

Mulder

That's right. I'm sure you watched Arnold last night on Jay Leno. He's told it like it is. The liberals took this great state, which was an economic machine for decades under Repulbicans, Reagan, Dukmejian, and Wilson and destroyed it in a matter of a few years. So fed up are the people of California, that they are going to throw your leading liberal governor, Grey Davis out on his arse!! (which hasn't been done since 1921) And expect more liberals to follow Davis out the door.

We're all tired of being taxed to death. We're tired of all the catering to Democratic special interests groups. Time for common sense to take back California!!! The people have spoken, Rep!!!

No, I did not watch Jay Leno last night. As you know, I get my political news from leftist organizations, not comedy shows.

Too early to tell, but I may face my own recall right here. I just don't understand Republicans. They do not like to take the results of regularily called elections.

[ComputerFix]

Electing Arnold to fix a financial fiasco...may not be the wisest of moves. This one should be fun to watch!!!

[plschwartz]

Mulder:
You said: We're all tired of being taxed to death. We're tired of all the catering to Democratic special interests groups. Time for common sense to take back California!!! The people have spoken, Rep!!!

Lets see a Mulder Budget. Take the budget gap and tell us how you or mighty joe young which programs of the special interest groups you would cut to save enough to close the gap -you can talk the talk but lets see if you can you walk the work

[CyBerAliEn]

Too bad I can't vote for Arnold (not a Californian')!

From rep:

but I may face my own recall right here

They're finally going to kick ya' out? What took so long? (just kiddin' around )

[tomlunt]

Rep - you said:

I just don't understand Republicans. They do not like to take the results of regularily called elections.

Is that kind of like the dems in Texas walking out because they didn't get their way?

TL

[Rep]

Originally posted by tomlunt:
Rep - you said:



Is that kind of like the dems in Texas walking out because they didn't get their way?

TL

Not quite tom. As I understand, a redistricting map for Texas was agreed upon two years ago. Now, the Republicans want to change it to their advantage. It appears that behavior is becoming a Republican standard.

[Stoner]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Sieg Heil, Arnie ......

only the best for Kalifornia.......


http://slate.msn.com/id/2086742/


Arnold's Nazi Problem
Why won't he repudiate Kurt Waldheim?
By Timothy Noah
Posted Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 3:46 PM PT



A slight Waldheim problem



Here's a question Jay Leno forgot to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger when he announced his candidacy for governor of California on last night's Tonight Show: "Will you renounce your support for Kurt Waldheim?"

A little refresher course may be in order. Kurt Waldheim, a widely esteemed former secretary general of the United Nations, was running for president of Austria in March 1986 when it came to light that he had participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Waldheim had always maintained that he had served in the Wehrmacht only briefly and that after being wounded early in the war, he had returned to Vienna to attend law school. In fact, Waldheim had resumed military service after recuperating from his injury and had been an intelligence officer in Germany's Army Group E when it committed mass murder in the Kozara region of western Bosnia. (Waldheim's name appears on the Wehrmacht's "honor list" of those responsible for the atrocity.) In 1944, Waldheim had reviewed and approved a packet of anti-Semitic propaganda leaflets to be dropped behind Russian lines, one of which ended, "enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews, come over." After the war, Waldheim was wanted for war crimes by the War Crimes Commission of the United Nations, the very organization he would later head. None of these revelations prevented Waldheim from winning the Austrian election, but after he became president, the U.S. Justice Department put Waldheim on its watch list denying entry to "any foreign national who assisted or otherwise participated in activities amounting to persecution during World War II." The international community largely shunned Waldheim, and he didn't run for re-election. (This information comes from the1992 book Betrayal: The Untold Story of the Kurt Waldheim Investigation and Cover-Up, by Eli M. Rosenbaum and William Hoffer.)

One month after these revelations began to splash across the front pages of newspapers worldwide, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver exchanged wedding vows at the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport, Mass. Schwarzenegger, a native of Austria, had invited Waldheim to the wedding, which of course can't be held against him because the invitations surely went out well before the war crimes story broke. (Schwarzenegger, who held dual citizenship in Austria and the United States, had also endorsed Waldheim.) Waldheim didn't attend, but he sent a gift—a statue of Arnold, in lederhosen, bearing off Maria, who wore a dirndl. Admiring it, Schwarzenegger offered a tribute that stunned the assemblage into shocked silence (this is reported in Arnold: An Unauthorized Biography, by Wendy Leigh):

My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does too, and so thank you, Kurt.

Schwarzenegger's name remained on Waldheim's campaign posters. After Waldheim was elected, Schwarzenegger paid him a visit and was photographed with him. According to the New York Post's "Page Six" gossip column, Schwarzenegger was seen sitting beside Waldheim as recently as 1998, when the two attended the second inauguration of Waldheim's successor as president, Thomas Klestil.

In 1988, Schwarzenegger was asked in a Playboy interview what he thought of Waldheim. He replied:

I hate to talk about it, because it's a no-win situation. Without going into details, I can say that being half-Austrian and half-American, I don't like the idea that these two countries that mean so much to me are in such a disagreement. Austria is a very important place for Americans, because it is a neutral country. With a little bit of good will, the problem will be straightened out. I think it's well on the way.

Why on Earth didn't Schwarzenegger take this opportunity to speak out against Waldheim? It surely isn't because Schwarzenegger himself had any Nazi sympathies (though during the filming of the documentary Pumping Iron, he reportedly once made a foolish comment praising Hitler). Rather, Schwarzenegger was likely playing politics—to be more specific, Austrian politics and family politics. For years it was rumored that if Schwarzenegger didn't run for governor of California, he would run for president of Austria. Because Austrians have long resented what they see as Waldheim's pointless scapegoating, any firm denunciation would have ruled the latter possibility out. In addition, Schwarzenegger's mother had for many years lived with Alfred Gerstl, a prominent Austrian politician who rose to the top post in the upper house of Austria's parliament. Schwarzenegger reportedly addressed him as "Uncle." (Schwarzenegger's father, who died three decades ago, was a police official who had belonged to the Nazi party.)

Rather than confront his Waldheim problem head-on, Schwarzenegger has proclaimed his disgust for Nazism, raised money for education about the Holocaust, traveled to Israel (where he met with then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin), and given generously to the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, which in 1997 bestowed on him its National Leadership Award. "He wants no truck with … Waldheim," the Wiesenthal Center's Rabbi Marvin Hier told the Jerusalem Post. "He probably did not have any clue as to the seriousness of the allegations against Waldheim at that time [i.e., 1986]. To suggest that Arnold's an anti-Semite is preposterous. He's done more to further the cause of Holocaust awareness than almost any other Hollywood star."

Clearly, though, that won't be enough. If Schwarzenegger doesn't renounce Waldheim in a highly public way, he can forget about ever becoming governor of California.