[angelize56]

Now this could be interesting! A little odd and far-fetched but interesting. I can imagine the arguments on both sides if it gets to court! Take care. angel

Thu September 11, 2003 10:23 AM ET
By Opheera McDoom

CAIRO (Reuters) - An Egyptian lawyer said Wednesday he was planning to sue the world's Jews for "plundering" gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt thousands of years ago, based on information in the Bible.

Nabil Hilmi, dean of the law faculty at Egypt's al-Zaqaziq University, said the legal basis for the case was under study by a group of lawyers in Egypt and Europe.

"This is serious, and should not be misread as being political against any race. We are just investigating if a debt is owed," Hilmi told Reuters in a telephone interview.

The relevant passage from the Bible, Exodus 12 verses 35 to 36 reads: "The Israelites had done as Moses told them; they had asked the Egyptians for jewelry of silver and gold, and for clothing. ... And so they plundered the Egyptians." This translation is in the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible.

Some Jewish commentators say that while the Biblical passage may be fact, the Hebrews were enslaved by the Egyptians and therefore had a right to claim compensation for wages.

"Hilmi's assertion that the Hebrew Bible is fact has given Israel and Jews the world over a reason to rejoice. He has opened the door for all Jews to sue Egypt for over 400 years of slavery," writer Beth Goodman told Reuters.

Tareq Zaghoul, a lawyer at the Egyptian Organization for Human Rights in Cairo, said it would be difficult to prove historical fact in the passage that would stand up in court.

"This needs historical documents and evidence to back it up. It is rather far-fetched," he said.

Hilmi said Egyptian and European historical and religious experts were trying to establish if the biblical passage could be taken as fact, and hence form the basis for a lawsuit.

He said the argument that Jews could sue Egypt for enslaving them was also being studied by experts.

Hilmi gave no details of which court he planned to file the case in or whether he thought such a case would be exempt from the sort of statute of limitations that in many countries rules out legal cases after a certain period of time.

He also declined to put a value on the goods "plundered."

[RandyG]

Well, tell him to look in the Judean Wilderness where all the gold and jewels that were pilfered were used to create The Golden Bull and other iconery. They were left to fester in the wilderness when Moses came down from the mountain!!


and, BTW, isn't this a similar case to the one that African-Americans lobbied for against the US government a few years back, trying to get indemnity for their ancestors being carted off to the States and made into slaves??

and the one in January 2003 where 2 men whose father was a slave are suing some corporations in California?

and the one in december 99where Nazi slave labourers and their families were granted up to $5 Billion in reparations.

Japanese americans who were interred in camps during WWII have already been compensated.


seems there's precedence!!

Another stupid bone head act
Alot of these people are so rabid about religion that you would think that they could float
How dumb can you be?

What's next from the Idiots in the sand?



LMAO
total Dumb arses I tell you!

[Gibble]

Originally posted by RandyG:
Well, tell him to look in the Judean Wilderness where all the gold and jewels that were pilfered were used to create The Golden Bull and other iconery. They were left to fester in the wilderness when Moses came down from the mountain!!


and, BTW, isn't this a similar case to the one that African-Americans lobbied for against the US government a few years back, trying to get indemnity for their ancestors being carted off to the States and made into slaves??

and the one in January 2003 where 2 men whose father was a slave are suing some corporations in California?

and the one in december 99where Nazi slave labourers and their families were granted up to $5 Billion in reparations.

Japanese americans who were interred in camps during WWII have already been compensated.


seems there's precedence!!

Not really precedence, the bible is not considered fact by many and can't be used as proof.

The other cases you stated we have historically records of the events occuring.

[RandyG]

Originally posted by Gibble:
Not really precedence, the bible is not considered fact by many and can't be used as proof.

The other cases you stated we have historically records of the events occuring.

****begin TIC mode****

What??????

You heathen!!!

Don't you know that the Bible is the most historically accurate document of God's actions!!!

It is the word of God!!! You need afidavits of God's word!!!!!


*******end TIC mode********

[Aaron.W]

Originally posted by angelize56:
The relevant passage from the Bible, Exodus 12 verses 35 to 36 reads: "The Israelites had done as Moses told them; they had asked the Egyptians for jewelry of silver and gold, and for clothing. ... And so they plundered the Egyptians." This translation is in the New Revised Standard Version of the Bible.

A judge would spot this right away: "As Moses told them, they had asked the Egyptians. . .", so not only did they avoid force or coercion, they did so believing it was an order straight from the mouth(piece) of their god in a time of miracles. They would have all obeyed without exception.

So, in the absence of violence or coercion, the Egyptians gave just clothing and jewelry to the Israelites, and presumably kept their cash, artwork and weapons. It sure doesn't look like the usual definition of "plunder", does it? Actually, it looks a lot like a charity drive. The god of Israel would make a pretty clever lawyer. ;]

If that lawyer wants to bring that passage from Exodus to court because it has the word "plundered" in it, the first judge he meets will make a total fool of him.