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26-Oct-2003, 09:40 PM #1
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I agree with Rollin’ Rog that it might be best for me to not respond....
but quite honestly... this whole situation is unfair to me.

In my own defense...............
I have made 1 post this weekend (and only because someone emailed me to alert me that pls was specifically calling me out to respond to him). So I responded to him... (in order to avoid his eventual criticism.... which would have been certain, had I chosen to ignore him) and that was the end of it.
But….. there have been NO other posts all weekend by me (so please feel free to check my posts).

And on Friday nite, I made a few posts over the course of about 20 minutes just before going to bed. Each of those posts were just "play stuff"... nothing serious.... since I didn't want to devote any time towards getting into serious TSG issues when I would rather spend an enjoyable evening with my boyfriend.

I never made any posts on TSG last nite (although I did get an email from someone - I won't reveal who - asking me why I was up so late). Apparently I had TSG open in a window (and that's how he knew that I was "around")... but I was not participating in anything that was going on at TSG, because me and my boyfriend were chatting with a friend who lives in Florida (and we were talking about the World Series and other stuff................ certainly not TSG stuff).
Bottom-line..... I was on the computer with my boyfriend last nite..... and TSG was certainly not something that I was going to focus on at that time.

I'm sorry to destroy any illusions here... but TSG is not a priority for me on the weekends.
Yes... sometimes I'll pop-in and out sometimes on the weekend....... but I like to go out and play on the weekends.
And my boyfriend takes priority for me.... ALWAYS.

If I do post on the weekends... it's probably because I'm also chatting with my friends from FLA or CALI..... but otherwise... my weekends are spent with my boyfriend.... and I'm not about to apologize for that.

I even got an email from LAN on Friday asking me if I was mad at him because I hadn't spoken to him all week (we are partners in a Fantasy Football team here at TSG).
And NO..... I'm not mad at him..... but I sometimes get distracted and I forget everyone that I owe responses to (and LAN was one of them). I don't "ignore" people on purpose.... but I get busy.... I get distracted... and I need to "pick my spots" for when I can respond to things (and quite honestly…. sometimes I just forget).

Also….. the majority of the “TSG time” that I spent here on Friday (which was the day that the “truce” thread was created by Stoner) was spent trying to figure-out how I should respond to the “Bashing” thread which blew-up in my face.
I knew that I needed to take personal responsibility for what I wrote…. and I spent a great deal of my time trying to clean-up the mess that was created from my post in that thread.
And I was not even aware of the “khaki” thread until late in the day (and I did add some responses once I saw it).

Can we be honest here? I have already made a few “unofficial” truces with Stoner over the post few months. But they never seem to last.
And quite honestly…. Stoner has hurt me with some very cruel and mean-spirited things that he knew would cause me pain and aggravation. He knows how to press every one of my buttons… and I have never known him to pass up an opportunity to do so.
Now he calls for a truce. So…. do I trust him now???

I figured that I would think about this…. and view his posts from the weekend (because if you read his posts to others…. I figured that I could get an idea of how he would post to me in the future). But instead of allowing me my weekend…. and my time with my boyfriend… and my time to decide how I should reply to him.... and what I would like to say….. he bullies me into making a post based on “his demand” and on “his deadline”.

That is so unfair.

UNFAIR

Here is the deal…. Today was a football Sunday day for me (with my boyfriend). So I didn't have time to respond until now.
But..... now that I have a few minutes to gather my thoughts.... I have no problem with putting them down and posting them here.
But seriously….. it was VERY unfair to expect me to address this issue on the deadline that was demanded of me.
I come to TSG to have fun…. not to have demands and expectations thrown in my face.

Stoner has demanded a response from me on his terms.... and his statement to me "Time goes by and there is no response from you khaki. I am taking that as a negative position for a settlement of the conflict between us." is completely unfair to me.

My lack of response had NOTHING to do with me being “negative”.
I HAVE A LIFE THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM....... and it is wrong to punish me or label me unfairly simply because I do not immediately respond to an artificial and unrealistic deadline.

I don't know if everyone will agree with me when I say this.... but I can honestly say (from my heart) that I have learned things from my time here in this forum.... and I feel that I have always stepped-up and taken responsibility for the areas where I feel that I may have failed the forum (and myself).
So.... it is very very unfair of Stoner to broadcast to the entire forum that I am unwilling to take the necessary steps to assure "civil" relations in this forum.

I can honestly say that I don't trust Stoner (since him and his friends seem to take pleasure in upsetting me.... and sometimes they do it in cruel and mean-spirited ways).... yet if it means that I can stop worrying that I will be attacked in the same ways again in the future.... I would definitely agree to a truce.
But......... I honestly haven't even been given a fair chance to address it properly.

And should this whole issue be posted in the public area of Random?
NO..... probably not.
But 2 threads have already been created with my name as the title.... and I have not been given the opportunity to properly respond to either of them.
And now that someone has made this a "public issue".... it is only fair that I am allowed to respond in the same public forum.

I have to say that this whole ordeal is upsetting to me. I really do not enjoy having to take so much time to explain myself, to defend myself, and to have my reputation and character called into question simply because of a personality conflict with someone who has (until now) been more than happy to torment me without mercy.

My first reaction to all of this was to just say F-it.... and get the heck out of here. But I have recieved some very supportive words from some very thoughtful people here.... and I feel that it would be wrong for me to allow this issue to chase me away.

So............
FINE.
I am willing to do whatever if takes to put an end to all of this nonsense. I will take the chance... and put myself at risk... to trust someone who I honestly do not trust.
But I will do so only because the alternative is no less unpleasant for me.

So...
I say "TRUCE"..... not only to Stoner... but to anyone else who is willing to make an honest attempt to repair any adversarial relationship that may exist between me and them.

This has already been blown far out of proportion…. So enough is enough.
Just treat me right…. and I’ll treat you right.
Aside from that…. I don’t know what else I can say…

So that’s all that I will say.

(I just want to have fun here. I'll stay away from the debates. Just let me have my fun away from the rest of you... and leave me alone... please)

Last edited by khaki : 26-Oct-2003 09:47 PM.
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26-Oct-2003, 09:47 PM #2
You've said it all just fine khaki and made your points in a civil manner! Good luck and I hope you never leave us! We're always looking forward to you in random when you find the time! Believe me....I bet all of us would rather spend time with our significant others on the weekend...now if only I had one at the moment! Take care. angel
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26-Oct-2003, 10:02 PM #3
khaki,

I have read your post.
I can accept the new situation where we grant each other mutual respect at TSG.
I say this infront of the forum so they can judge for them selves the honorable intentsions of a truce between us.
In this new light, perhaps we can post in a manor that is inclusive of each others feelings.

Peace



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26-Oct-2003, 10:22 PM #4
okay....

so I guess we won't have any need for this, then....






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26-Oct-2003, 10:30 PM #5
It seems stoner has something that is greatly troubling him. My suggestion would be to forgive and forget but in order to do this one must change the behavior or attitude that caused the problem in the first place.
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26-Oct-2003, 10:30 PM #6
or we could combine our creative talents and pick on some unlucky member (j/k )

Oh ....wait, Chris left
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26-Oct-2003, 10:32 PM #7
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Originally posted by EarthTech:
It seems stoner has something that is greatly troubling him. My suggestion would be to forgive and forget but in order to do this one must change the behavior or attitude that caused the problem in the first place.

Bucko not much troubles me.
Truce is a good thing
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26-Oct-2003, 10:36 PM #8
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It seems stoner has something that is greatly troubling him. My suggestion would be to forgive and forget but in order to do this one must change the behavior or attitude that caused the problem in the first place.
Well Stoner you might say some are more perceptive then others. And his/her first post too! Damn thats got to be a record.
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26-Oct-2003, 10:36 PM #9
I have been reading these posts for sometime and I find it amazing how something can be carried to this point by anyone. It reminds me of a time I wish to forget when I would let things " simmer on the back burner" until some unlucky soul pushed the wroung buttons and got more than he/she bargined for. I think peaceful and meaning conversations is a good start. Remember a mind at peace shall let a weary soul sleep in peace
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26-Oct-2003, 10:38 PM #10
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26-Oct-2003, 10:40 PM #11
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Well Stoner you might say some are more perceptive then others. And his/her first post too! Damn thats got to be a record.
Nah! That's merely a level of truth



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26-Oct-2003, 10:40 PM #12
Is it true EarthTech you're Col.USMC come back from being AWOL???
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26-Oct-2003, 10:46 PM #13
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Is it true EarthTech you're Col.USMC come back from being AWOL???
Aww come on Marlene! If you ask him who he is or what he does for a living he will have to disappear again! Gotta keep state secrets!
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27-Oct-2003, 12:33 AM #14
Well you got a truce with me Khaki!

But I don't think we've argued over anything.......... yet.
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