[EarthTech]

In most southern states after the civil war their constitution was rewitten and a little amendment added stating that the states cannot ever secede from the union. It is the policy of our federal goverment to acknowledge foreign states should they leave their parent country. I think these amendments should be removed for if the people of one of these states sees it in the states best interest to leave the union then that should be their right. I personally do not plan to leave the union and hope no one else does. I thought this may spark some new debate.

[EarthTech]

guess not

[ComputerFix]

Within 11 minutes on a Tuesday?


If any state were to decide to leave the United States, violating such a clause within the state constitution would hardly be of concern.

[GoneForNow]

Well its like becoming a "made" man in the Mafia, once you're in your in for life (however short that may be).

The original colonies signed the the US Constitution (and Bill of Rights) making them the founding states, thereafter each state had to petition the federal government and seek agreement from the individual states for admission (the requirements for admission have changed over the centuries). If approved you're admitted and part of that admission is the agreement that you never get to leave.

[plschwartz]

It is the policy of our federal goverment to acknowledge foreign states should they leave their parent country.
???
who what where when

Certainly now in kosovo our position is anti independence.

[DNeurococo]

"We never had to build a wall to keep our people in"

-- John F. Kennedy on the "Berlin Wall"

No, we just had to fight a civil war!

#$DN

[EarthTech]

Just overthrow the goverment

[ComputerFix]

Originally posted by DNeurococo:
"We never had to build a wall to keep our people in"

-- John F. Kennedy on the "Berlin Wall"

No, we just had to fight a civil war!

#$DN

If you really want to nit-pick.......


The only difference between a "civil war" and a "revolutionary war" (particularly in the case of the US) is who won. As British subjects, the colonies took part in a civil war, and happen to win, so it gets a different name (and is regarded differently). The south just happen to lose.....thankfully.


History written by the victors, right GB.

[GoneForNow]

Originally posted by ComputerFix:
History written by the victors, right GB.

Damn right CF.

If you're a socialist you get to rewrite history, right DN.

CF you are right on point. The North called it a "civil" war where as the South called it a war between the states. A matter of perspective.

Unless you're DN, then the civil war is just proof that democracy is the yoke around the neck of the proletariat.

[ComputerFix]

Yes, and as I said in my very first post, anyone wanting to do so would hardly care about such a clause. In the end, any state deciding that it too wanted to strike out on its own would hardly give a toss about such a written prohibition, and I suspect that the issues surrounding such a situation would have very few pointing to such a thing and saying "lookie lookie".

[buddhafabio]

of late, there is a few native hawaiians that say they were a sovern nation forced into the united states. and they wand out.

whether this is true or not is another story. but what if the majority of the hawaiians want out. what right do we have to keep them in the union