[columbo]

LAN,

Did you have a chance to check out the links I posted back in post #64?

[LANMaster]

Originally posted by columbo:
I would keep the steak.....as long as it was medium....hmm....possibly medium-well.

Oh yeah. Coupla drops of A-1 sauce, some rice pilaf, and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.

[LANMaster]

Originally posted by columbo:
LAN,

Did you have a chance to check out the links I posted back in post #64?

Yes. Sorry it took me a while to comment.
The numbers are very encouraging.
But I don't think they are totally accurate. But I could be wrong. The PSR obviously has an agenda. And I'm sure Newsweek Magazine also has their own agenda.

[columbo]

Yes. Sorry it took me a while to comment.
The numbers are very encouraging.
But I don't think they are totally accurate. But I could be wrong. The PSR obviously has an agenda. And I'm sure Newsweek Magazine also has their own agenda.

As I mentioned earlier, what really struck me was how contradictory some of the figures appeared to be.

I do think the poll showed that much of the support for paramilitary groups stems from a lack of trust in the political institutions set-up to represent Palestinian interests.

Perhaps the average Palestinian sympathizes with groups like Hamas because he feels that he can rely on no one else to fight for him (thinks his politicians are corrupt, or has no faith in the political institutions set up to represent him)?

Oh yeah. Coupla drops of A-1 sauce, some rice pilaf, and a baked potato with butter and sour cream.

Hmmm....replace the sour cream with cottage cheese and you'd be right on.

Man...I know it's early in the day, but this has got me craving a steak big time.

[LANMaster]

Originally posted by columbo:
As I mentioned earlier, what really struck me was how contradictory some of the figures appeared to be.

I do think the poll showed that much of the support for paramilitary groups stems from a lack of trust in the political institutions set-up to represent Palestinian interests.

Perhaps the average Palestinian sympathizes with groups like Hamas because he feels that he can rely on no one else to fight for him (thinks his politicians are corrupt, or has no faith in the political institutions set up to represent him)?

So why all the support for Arafat?

Hmmm....replace the sour cream with cottage cheese and you'd be right on.

Man...I know it's early in the day, but this has got me craving a steak big time.

Hmmm never tried cottage cheese on baked potato. I'll have to try that. I like cottage cheese with a little sugar on top.
Oh ... and I love green chilies on my steak.

[columbo]

So why all the support for Arafat?

Another Palestinian/American parallel......They both support a leader that's screwing them over!

In seriousness, I can only imagine that it has to do with Arafat being viewed as more than just a politician by the common Palestinian.

Then again, the PCPSR poll taken just a month ago only showed Arafat's support as 50%, which was up 15% from June of last year. This is hardly exemplifies widepread support IMO...

I think it's safe to say that Arafat's popularity tends to rest more on external circumstances than on his specific policies (keep in mind that support for him seemed to swell greatly when the Israelis restricted his ability to travel, as well as when discussion arose of sending him into exile or assassinating him)....

It seems as though the more attention Israel pays to Arafat, the more popular he becomes with the average Palestinian man (living within the occupied territories).

[columbo]

Hmmm never tried cottage cheese on baked potato. I'll have to try that. I like cottage cheese with a little sugar on top.
Oh ... and I love green chilies on my steak.

Yeah, I like the cottage cheese because it helps cool the potato...

Green chilies eh? Is that like a south-western type of thing?

P.S - T-bones are OK, but a properly-done NY Striploin is the best IMO

[LANMaster]

I think I agree with your assertion that the more attention Israel pays to Arafat, the more the Palestinians support him.

I'll go along with you on the striploin, AKA Kansas City Strip.
But I think my favorite, other than the obvious tenderloin (filet mignon) would be the Porterhouse. (t-bone with the tenderloin attached)

Yeah, the green chilies are a SouthWest type of thing.
But the chilies are mild and add an incredibly great flavor to steak.

You can get them fresh but you'll need to burn and skin them for proper usage.
I buy them in the little cans (whole) and slice them up and add them to my marinate ... which includes chopped onions, soy sauce, a little BBQ sauce and some italian dressing. Oh and either beer or red wine.

Geez! Is it lunchtime yet?

[columbo]

Originally posted by LANMaster:
I think I agree with your assertion that the more attention Israel pays to Arafat, the more the Palestinians support him.

I'll go along with you on the striploin, AKA Kansas City Strip.
But I think my favorite, other than the obvious tenderloin (filet mignon) would be the Porterhouse. (t-bone with the tenderloin attached)

Yeah, the green chilies are a SouthWest type of thing.
But the chilies are mild and add an incredibly great flavor to steak.

You can get them fresh but you'll need to burn and skin them for proper usage.
I buy them in the little cans (whole) and slice them up and add them to my marinate ... which includes chopped onions, soy sauce, a little BBQ sauce and some italian dressing. Oh and either beer or red wine.

Geez! Is it lunchtime yet?

I will have to try those green chilies sometime...Unfortunately, BBQ season is over in Canada ( too windy and generally crappy outside)...And to pan-fry a steak is meat-abuse IMO...

I think I'll have to treat myself to a nice striploin and maybe some shrimp swimming in garlic butter somtime this weekend....(I won't forget the beer and the baked potato either)

[LANMaster]

LMAO meat abuse

The broiler does a pretty good job when cold outside
Shrimp sounds pretty good too.

[LANMaster]

Geez, I wonder what the Palestinians are eating.

[alex_holker]

If I was in charge of Israel, given my current knowledge I would do the following:

1. Give the Palistinians the occupied territories. They can go back to their previous countries.

2. If any attack is made by the Palistinians, Egypt or any other country, it will be treated as an act of war and Israel will retaliate, not just by destroying one house or assassinating one leader, but with attacks against military installations, any and all terrorist leaders and the governments involved. Make sure that all parties involved know this.

Basically "You can have the territory back that we captured when you attacked us. If you attack ever again we will destroy you."

Alex

[columbo]

Geez, I wonder what the Palestinians are eating.

I guess it would depend on where they lived (and their religion)...

I imagine some are eating quite well while others are probably not eating so well...

Just like some Americans will fill up on Turkey for Thanksgiving, while others will go hungry.

It is really a shame when you think about it....I can't imagine not having enough money now to buy food

[cnimbus]

Originally posted by alex_holker:
If I was in charge of Israel, given my current knowledge I would do the following:

1. Give the Palistinians the occupied territories. They can go back to their previous countries.

That would be Israel. This is what the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is all about. European Jews moved to the Mideast, rose up and booted the British out, and then proceeded to boot the Palestinians out of their homes and off their land. It is a lot like what Americans did to the Indans during the 1800's - invade and scour the land of its previous inhabitants. The Palestinians are blowing things up because they want their land and houses back.

2. If any attack is made by the Palistinians, Egypt or any other country, it will be treated as an act of war and Israel will retaliate, not just by destroying one house or assassinating one leader, but with attacks against military installations, any and all terrorist leaders and the governments involved. Make sure that all parties involved know this.

This is already the case, and has been so for the past 50 years.

Basically "You can have the territory back that we captured when you attacked us. If you attack ever again we will destroy you."

So the Israelis are going to turn over their country to the Palestinians? Yeah, right. And what about native-born Israelis? They have as much right to live in Palestine/Israel as the Palestinians - not fair to give them das boot. After all, they were born there too.

[alex_holker]

Sorry about the misunderstanding cnimbus, by the occupied territories, I was referring to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I would give these to the Palistinians and ceace all hostilities, until they make an attack. At that point, I would treat it as war, not just retaliatory strikes.

Alex