[Chris A]

Is it Europe's turn to be the evil Satan. seems that there are several countries over there getting a lot of criticism as of late.

I have been seeing a trend in news stories attacking what the majority of people over there believe as their culture.. France is now bad because they outlaw Burkas in school. Just read a story about how racist people have become in The UK.



Heck even Kofi Annan Has started to tell Europe that they need to change their was when it comes to Immigration.

I have been reading stories as of late relating to the political correct crowd This man had to take down a metal cross he made and installed in his own field. Judgment day for village cross

The US is a long way away from Europe but I have learned a thing or two about perceptions and it seems that there is a new force out to make Europe the next great Satan. We in the the US have enjoyed the bashing by the political correct crowd for some years.

[barfly]

"Is it Europe's turn to be the evil Satan."

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[RSM123]

FWIW,

I would say that 4 out of 10 is a conservative estimate. Its most likely that there are people here who harbour certain personal prejudices - yet would be reluctant to express them even in the context of an anonymous survey. Whether thats a consequence of living in denial or fear of negative repercussions may differ from one person to the next.

However the above needs some qualifying - whites perceive black people as more hostile than other ethnic minorities ... despite the current preoccupation with islam. It is a black teenager with a sweathood up who would be perceived as a potential mugger, and a black male driving a BMW as a drug dealer.

Contrast that with the perception of asians (I'm referring to Indian / Pakistani people here), or orientals - they are seen to be primarily hard working, industrious people, who though some whites possibly don't particularly care for - are nevertheless not seen as a threat to society, nor a drain on its resources. I think if a study were done, for example on unemployment across racial boundaries - rates among chinese would be lowest, then hindus and sikhs, then moslems, then blacks. With a further distinction here - between blacks from the Caribbean and those from our former colonies in E / W Africa - the former being primarily associated with criminality, to put it crudely.

There is however considerable mistrust even loathing between certain members of these groups, among the black community africans often look down on caribbeans, hindus and particularly sikhs share a mutual loathing with moslems.

Just some brief observations in addition to what anyone else here may add.

[Paquadez]

As always, well put, Richard!

Probably, Chris, there are two distinct and separate issues, insofar as the UK be concerned.

First, there is the matter of nationalism: most WASP Brits, have started to realise - too late! - that they have lost their national identity. IT has been submerged (or perhaps more correctly, they have allowed it to be submerged) in migrant ethnicity, to the point where, to be "British" is to be "Racist" - according to many militant etnic groups, here.

Second, there is the matter of the WASP Brit rapidly becoming a disprivileged underclass, in their own country, of birth and heritage.

According to stats released yesterday, by Migrantwatch UK, a ThinkTank opposed to mass migration, by 2031 over 5 Million new migrants will enter the UK.

Governmet denied this and stated that it would be more like 3.8 million!

Problem is, already, our healthcare and pensions cannot accommodate the extant older population and it is realities such as this, that make WASP Brits very worried!

I am personally delighted that Chirrac took the stand he did: when in Rome etc. You don't like it? Well go home! France is for the French and if you wan't to live there, integrate, speak French, behave like the French and absorb THEIR culture. The last smart thing to try, is to force-feed France with your demands about your own culture and ethnicity!

Paq

[RSM123]

Apparently this is not a popular thread

Though it would be interesting to learn others perceptions of this situation.

[Paquadez]

Yes, funny that?

Paq

[Chris A]

Perhaps it has to do so much with our own troubles We are being told by our politically correct crowd that we are no longer to use the terms 'illegal immigrant' or 'illegal alien,' Instead we are to call them "undocumented workers"..



Chirrac may have made a stand but by doing so he is being labled a racist. Hell even the Pope made a snide remark about his intolerance.

With Kofi Annan addressing the European parliament I am sure that he will help your leaders see their errors. He would love nothing more then to take power away from some of your right wing polititians who promote stronger borders.

[Paquadez]

Once the newly joined Eu members from Eastern Europe accede to the EU, we are all about to be invaded by gypsies from these states!

The UK will cave: and political correctness will reign, to the utter detriment of the UK.

France? Over her dead body!

The UK already has huge problems with ittinerants: they sponge off the social security system, create havoc and chaos wherever they go; they are in effect a social and economic sub-system.

Yet the PC brigade support them and promote their interests!

The worst, of course, are the so called "New Age Travellers", dead-beat drop outs, who smoke dope, guzzle beer and drive around in illegal (i.e non-licensed, non-insured coaches, lorries and caravans).

Paq

[GoneForNow]

Originally posted by Paquadez:
First, there is the matter of nationalism: most WASP Brits, have started to realise - too late! - that they have lost their national identity. IT has been submerged (or perhaps more correctly, they have allowed it to be submerged) in migrant ethnicity, to the point where, to be "British" is to be "Racist" - according to many militant etnic groups, here.

Second, there is the matter of the WASP Brit rapidly becoming a disprivileged underclass, in their own country, of birth and heritage.

Paq........Don't feel alone, the same situation in the US. Mind you, if you point it out your a racist pig. Supposedly, we are the melting pot, we aren't suppose to have a separate identity, except that only applies if you're a WASP. If you're a minority then you have a "right" to proclaim your heritage. In simple terms, what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander.

[Paquadez]

I can't remember where I read it, GB, but a book many years ago, said something like "the frailty of such a democracy, is it gives anyone the right of free speech to criticise the very thing that allows them free speech in the first place!"

Paq

[bassetman]

Originally posted by barfly:
"Is it Europe's turn to be the evil Satan."

Takes jacket off, rolls up sleeves,

pauses,

counts to 10,

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thinks better and retires to bed

LOL