[RSM123]

Hi,

I would be most grateful to you if you would read this whole post as I would genuinely like to ask you what you derive from posting here ?

When you first posted here in your manifestation of SDC one of your first posts was to ask for some links fo courses you were considering. Though very much a novice myself I was glad that I had the opportunity to try and 'pay my way' here and help someone out with something they might find useful. You subsequently had your account disabled for a reason I'm not aware of.

Some time later you reappeared using the name 'Webfish' and took an active role in posting in some of the politically oriented threads. I can't profess to have read all your posts or to have followed those threads studiously as TSG is partly diversionary entertainment / and partly the chance to contribute to helping people.

I am a genealogist by profession so I will never attain the computer related knowledge that some TSG members have - whether its Johnwill, Mobo, Slipe, or the more technically minded Mods. However I at least make the effort to help people to the best of my limited ability. Even if all I do is provide someone with results of a Google search that points them in the right direction - I have at least made an effort to help them, and have been thanked from time to rime for my efforts.

I recall following the thread concerning Flashygirls's photo and recall that you left the site soon after a discussion with Davey7549. I of course do not know what was discussed between the two of you - only that your account was disabled immediately after.

Soon after you left the site there was a thread started 'Bring back Webfish' - I believe that was by Ashes@work - though a search would easily confirm or refute that. Having seen that thread, though I didn't post I decided to visit the 'website' link in your Webfish account. I read some of the posts in your Martial Arts forum to try and understand a bit about what motivates you.

You subsequently returned to the forum in your current entity of Cyber2004 and intiate a thread that is exclusively anti English on the premise that we are anti American. Well I can tell you that though I'm English I am certainly not out burning 'The Stars & Bars'. I went to a military school for children of NATO Personnel including numerous Americans - and I have no reason let alone any need to spout Anti American rhetoric without at least backing it up. Throughout the recent conflict I did nothing more than express a hope that American (and British) casualties would be as low as possible. I did not state a single opinion on the reasons for the war or the way the war was prosecuted. Coversely a number of Americans who post here have condemned recent events without relent. Though you don't comment on this.

Nobody appreciates their beliefs or themselves being ridiculed, that is something most people who post here can relate to, and I am no exception. Every view expressed is of equal value for the prposes of discussion - even if it subsequently gets torn apart by detractors who may or may not be correct. Any objective poster who takes the time to read can perhaps learn something they did not know before. Given that this is merely an internet discussion forum where nothing debated will actually be changed no matter how articulate the case for or against ... at least sharing knowledge or experiences can be beneficial to all parties.

Personally I could not care less if you hate English people specifically even though there are numerous troops serving along side US forces in Iraq - unlike most other nations in Europe who you do not condemn. I can assure you that a British soldier who gets shot or blown up bleeds just as much as his American counterpart, and no doubt is just as keen to return to his family. Yet you decided for you own reasons to post a link to an extremely one sided (Marxist) website that condemns Britain on the basis of at best, one sided, and at worst fabricated evidence - which I duly rebutted without any reply from anyone.

It intrigues to know why you participate in emotive discussions when you apear to be unwilling to acknowledge that there are opposing views, and without flaming those who propose facts that counter what you post, without resorting to insults.

I can state that like you I don't appreciate being insulted - I do not and would not do that with you, or any other TSG Member as firstly its extremely discourteous - and secondly the only thing I will achieve is to get banned. I enjoy posting here - and presumably you do too otherwise why would you keep coming back here ?

None of the above is intended to belittle you or the views you may hold - I merely feel compelled to post given the direction that I see some threads taking.


The above not withstanding - I thank you for reading and wish you the best in your other endeavours.


Richard.

[Stoner]

Richard,

I think you're full of crap.

I can state that like you I don't appreciate being insulted - I do not and would not do that with you, or any other TSG Member as firstly its extremely discourteous

And you might remember why.
A conversation you initiated with the attempt to belittle me
by using my nic as a focus of dersion because you 'detest' my politics.
Wouldn't have been of notice here in Civ Debate, but it happened in Random.



Have a nice week, slick

Jack Stone

[RSM123]

Errrr - sorry not with you there ...?

Anyway don't bother.

All the best to both of you,


CYA.

LMAO
you need to calm down and put away your credentials there oh wise being & hipocritical one

Your attempt to analyze me is why quacks are called exactly that

I am not concerned but amuzed by your thoughts on me

you are what can I say here? Siccuphant or?

So go back to your books and deep misguided thoughts self proclaimed super man.

Thanks for the laugh

oh and pat yourself on the back again

[RSM123]

Yes you're right,

Sorry I bothered.

I'll just wait till your account gets disabled again.

ok that works! now go back to the closet

[Gibble]

Originally posted by RSM123:
Yes you're right,

Sorry I bothered.

I'll just wait till your account gets disabled again.

You tried.

uh oh
monkie see monkie do

lol
have fun bashing me guys

and flex those chests boys


LMAO

[Gibble]

Who's bashing?

[RSM123]

Cyber 2004,

This thread doesn't contain a single 'bash' against you whatsoever.

ok a mind game and specualation

what ever

hmmm what shall my thread of RSM be?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

give me a break mannnnnnnnnnnnnn

this is stupid and you claim to be smart?

putting an x on my chest here?

what ever dude

go analyze someone else

how can I answer such a stupid bunch of writing? An observation by RSM LMAO

so just keep trying to smell like a rose or get me kicked out or what ever
I refuse to play this stupid game

[RSM123]

Bye Bye Cyber.





If you haven't already done so - click my Username and select 'Ignore User'.


Cheers.

Question: Gossip has value in self-revelation, especially in revealing others to me. Seriously, why not use gossip as a means of discovering what is? I do not shiver at the word `gossip' just because it has been condemned for ages.

Krishnamurti: I wonder why we gossip? is it because it reveals others to us? And why should others be revealed to us? Why do you want to know others? Why this extraordinary concern about others? First of all, why do we gossip? It is a form of restlessness, is it not? Like worry, it is an indication of a restless mind. Why this desire to interfere with others, to know what others are doing, saying? It is a very superficial mind that gossips, isn't it? - an inquisitive mind which is wrongly directed. The questioner seems to think that others are revealed to him by his being concerned with them - with their doings, with their thoughts, with their opinions. But do we know others if we don't know ourselves? Can we judge others, if we do not know the way of our own thinking, the way we act, the way we behave? Why this extraordinary concern over others? Is it not an escape, really, this desire to find out what others are thinking and feeling and gossiping about? Doesn't it offer an escape from ourselves? Is there not in it also the desire to interfere with others' lives? Isn't our own life sufficiently difficult, sufficiently complex, sufficiently painful, without dealing with others', interfering with others'? Is there time to think about others in that gossipy, cruel, ugly manner? Why do we do this? You know, everybody does it. Practically everybody gossips about somebody else. Why?

I think, first of all, we gossip about others because we are not sufficiently interested in the process of our own thinking and of our own action. We want to see what others are doing and perhaps, to put it kindly, to imitate others. Generally, when we gossip it is to condemn others, but, stretching it charitably, it is perhaps to imitate others. Why do we want to imitate others? Doesn't it all indicate an extraordinary shallowness on our own part? It is an extraordinarily dull mind that wants excitement, and goes outside itself to get it. In other words gossip is a form of sensation, isn't it?, in which we indulge. It may be a different kind of sensation, but there is always this desire to find excitement, distraction. If one really goes into this question deeply, one comes back to oneself, which shows that one is really extraordinarily shallow and seeking excitement from outside by talking about others. Catch yourself the next time you are gossiping about somebody; if you are aware of it, it will indicate an awful lot to you about yourself. Don't cover it up by saying that you are merely inquisitive about others. It indicates restlessness, a sense of excitement, a shallowness, a lack of real, profound interest in people which has nothing to do with gossip.


Truth
‘You and a friend are walking along the path (…) And as you go along up the path you happen to pick up something ravishingly beautiful, sparkling, a jewel of extraordinary antiquity and beauty. You are so astonished to find it (…) You look at it with great astonishment (… ) You hold it for some time, amazed and silent. Then you put it very carefully in your inside pocket, button it, and are almost frightened that you might lose it or that it might lose its sparkling, shining beauty. And you put your hand outside the pocket that holds it. The other sees you doing this and sees that your face and your eyes have undergone a remarkable change. There is a kind of ecstasy, a speechless wonder, a breathless excitement. When the man asks: ‘What is it that you have found and are so extraordinarily elated by?’ you reply in a very soft, gentle voice (it seems so strange to you to hear your own voice) that you picked up truth. You don’t want to talk about it, your are rather shy; the very talking might destroy it. And the man who is walking beside you is slightly annoyed that you are not communicating with him freely, and he says that if you have found the truth, then let’s do down into the valley and organize it so that others will understand it, so that others will grasp it and perhaps it will help them. You don’t reply, you are sorry that you ever told him about it’.

J. Krishnamurti

[Gibble]

WTF did that have to do with this topic?

[Toddles18]

Well said RSM.


"The greatest of faults, is to believe you have none."