[EdGreene]

Kerry Blasts Bush
“Deriding Bush as "the worst president for jobs in this country since Herbert Hoover and the Great Depression," Kerry said the consequence was written in more than just the 75,000-plus jobs lost in Wisconsin over the past three years.
“"It is written ... in the countless number of victims seeing their pensions blown away because of the Enrons and WorldComs and an entire creed of greed that has been licensed by the Bush administration," he said."

[Rockn]

So it is written, so it is believed by Ed Greene!!

Enron and Worldcom were potential time bombs that were ticking long before Bush ever stepped foot in the White House. Don't believe everything you read!!

[Stoner]

Very true Rockn.
However , the largest contributions to Bush came thru Lay(Enron CEO) when Bush was stumping for the GOP nomination.

[Rockn]

So, corporations can give money to any political party or candidate they want. That is the way, unfortunately, politics work in this country. Amen

[Stoner]

Unfortunately, and both parties work the angles on contributions.

[Rockn]

Absolutely, all the more reason for campaign reform. We both know that will never happen though.

[Chris A]

I have to work but I remember Clinton getting a big chunk of change from Enron

In 1994, after meeting with India's former prime minister, Clinton ordered his energy secretary to take U.S. executives on a trade junket to India. Enron executives got seats on the trip and came back with an agreement to build a huge $3 billion power plant near Bombay.

To help finance the deal, Clinton turned to Arkansas cronies he'd named to the Export-Import Bank board.

One bank board member was Maria Haley, the former governor's trade contact at the Arkansas Industrial Development Commission. Her ex-husband was convicted in the Whitewater probe. (Haley was replaced on the Ex-Im Bank board by Vanessa Weaver, whose father was a Stephens Inc. executive. She was forced by the Senate Banking Committee to recuse herself from any Lippo Group deals after I exposed her close ties to Lippo crook John Huang in a 1999 Investor's Business Daily article.)

Ex-Im Bank loaned the Enron-led India project a total of $302 million. The Overseas Private Investment Corp. kicked in another $160 million in loan guarantees, while underwriting the deal with $180 million in political-risk insurance.

The risky deal would never have got off the ground if not for the government (that is, taxpayer) backing. Commercial banks rarely make big loans for long-term projects in unproven, unstable markets like India.

All the while, Clinton shepherded the project through for his golfing partner, Ken Lay, Enron's CEO at the time. Clinton even penned at least one note with a related article to his former chief of staff, Mack McLarty, to make sure he was up to speed on the project's development.

McLarty and Clinton's ambassador to India, Frank Wisner, rode herd on the project until the final contract was inked.

Four days before Phase 2 of the project was finalized in June 1996, Enron gave $100,000 to Clinton's dirty-money re-election effort. (Millions in illegal foreign cash had to be returned, and several Clinton donors and fund-raisers have since been convicted of fraud.)

What's more, Lay found jobs for McLarty and Wisner after they left the Clinton administration. He also hired Clinton Treasury official Linda Robertson and his deputy energy secretary, Betsy Moler.

Hollings take note: All these Enron employees and consultants were Democrats, not Republicans – Clintonistas, not Bushies.

Clinton's sweetheart India deal turned into a costly boondoggle that acted as a drag on Enron's stock, and even sped the company's collapse last year, when local Indian officials stopped paying their power bills.

Even after he left the White House, Clinton, who hosted Enron officials at White House fund-raising coffees, followed up on Enron's snake-bitten India project by lobbying local officials for back payments during his trip to India last April. Bush, in contrast, refused to bring up the project during his visit with India's leader last year.

Hollings asserted that the Bush administration did favors for Enron, which donated more than $1 million dollars to the Bush campaign.

But there is no evidence to support his charge.

There is, however, clear evidence that the Clinton administration showered Enron with favors. In fact, the sequence of events noted above appears to show a quid pro quo involving Enron donations, giving Lay a much better return on his political investments in Clinton than Bush.


Found here. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=26425

[ComputerFix]

we are talking about big corporations and politics in a thread with Kerry in the title?

You are all aware what Kerry's wife's maiden name is, right?

No wonder he doesn't have money woes, his "war chest" makes GWB's look like my bank account in comparison!

[EdGreene]

Originally posted by Rockn:
So it is written, so it is believed by Ed Greene!!

Enron and Worldcom were potential time bombs that were ticking long before Bush ever stepped foot in the White House. Don't believe everything you read!!

Actually I don't "believe" anything I post from other sources. I just post them and see what develops.

But those things I specifically author? Yeah!

But then, you're so politically dense you can't (couldn't) recognize a conversational hand grenade (OP) tossed over the transom.

Rockn': "Duh, what's a "Transom"?

[Chris A]

Originally posted by EdGreene:


But then, you're so politically dense you can't (couldn't) recognize a conversational hand grenade (OP) tossed over the transom.

Rockn': "Duh, what's a "Transom"?

LOL...

Rockn is a pretty smart guy just a little facetious at times.. I think you are wrong to insinuate that he is dumb

[AcaCandy]

Originally posted by ComputerFix:
we are talking about big corporations and politics in a thread with Kerry in the title?

You are all aware what Kerry's wife's maiden name is, right?

No wonder he doesn't have money woes, his "war chest" makes GWB's look like my bank account in comparison!

And let's not forget the John "F" Kerry name either

[LANMaster]

"Did you know that the North Vietnamese used to torture their captives at the Hanoi Hilton with details of antiwar speeches being delivered in the United States? They would cite these speeches as reasons why the captured American soldiers should cross over to their side. And just who's speech would they use? According to the LA Times they would use John Kerry's testimony for the Senate Foreign Relations committee in April of1971 .

It was during that speech that Kerry said American soldiers were raping, dismembering, and randomly shooting Vietnamese civilians. Kerry later admitted that he had never seen these atrocities for himself ... but had merely heard about them.

And you're getting ready to put a man in the White House who's words were used to torture American prisoners?"

[columbo]

And you're getting ready to put a man in the White House who's words were used to torture American prisoners?

I haven't posted much about this subject, as the actual election isn't for 9 months (and I'm not voting in the U.S.).....

Let's stop the silliness already.

Anyone who refuses to accept that GW was a "fortunate son" is simply in denial. His family connections ensured that he would never see combat. I am sure that the children of influential Democrats enjoyed this luxury as well.

Anyone who refuses to accept that Kerry talks out of both sides of his mouth is also in denial. He may have served in Vietnam, but his anguish over the conflict seems less than genuine (throwing away someone else's medals for example).

So what is important?

Do you care more about the direction of Bush's foreign and domestic policies, or that he may have tried to fudge his service record?

Do you care more about the direction that Kerry would lead your country, or that he may have consorted with Jane Fonda a couple of decades ago?

Drop the mud and think about the impact that these people may have on your future.

[Rockn]

Some folks like Eddy are more interested in mud than actual issues thus the hit and run posts he has become infamous for. There was absolutely nothing to think about in your post, we know your motives as well as your politics. You are a sniper with only one target and you normally miss that target.

Most modern buildings do not have transoms any longer do they? Or are you referring to the beam on a gallows??

[LANMaster]

Originally posted by columbo:
Drop the mud and think about the impact that these people may have on your future.

Too late for that.
Dems have slung mud for 3 long years.
.... and they continue to sling it.
If the Left wanted this election to be free of mud, they should have thought about that long ago.

It's payback time.

I didn't hear you (or anyone else) asking that the mud stop a year ago when everyone was slinging it at Bush.



But, I agree with the tone of your post. It is a shame to see such negative campaigning.

BUT ..... Kerry, Kusinich, Dean, Edwards, Sharpton, Braun, Graham have been slinging the mud in a big way.
..... and they continue to sling it at Bush.
Yet I didn't (and haven't until now) hear a single voice from the Left asking them to cut it out. Not one. AND THOSE ARE THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES! I'm not even including the miriad Activists and Actors, and News Anchor people, News Columnists, Web sites, and Congressional Democrats, and all the other various Bush-Bashing bloggers.

Now that the Bush campaign is gearing up there seems to be talk of running a clean election? And Bush hasn't thrown a single negative assertion out himself .... yet.
That's just laughable to think that Bush should lay off these creeps.

I repeat, It is payback time.