[izme]

What did America do to warrant the attack At the world trade center and the Death of so many people? What makes them think this was the right thing to do? This made all of the terrorist's look like fools with bombs with no real agenda, just killing in the name of allah and the arab world? I just do not get it.
How can Osama and the Terrorist's justify their actions?
Who looks bad here?

What goes through the mind of this idiot fanatic named Osama Bin Laden?
religious fanatic or cold and calculated killer? Probably both and more?

these answers elude me

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[AlbertB]

Have you been reading any posts made by foreigners here on TSG over the last year?

Don't lay yourself open to being reeled in and gutted by asking questions like this one which will just get that same kneejerk reaction Izme! Accept it, they hate you just because they hate you, there couldn't be abything you do which triggers that hate could there?

[CyBerAliEn]

What makes it right to them is that they believe it to be right.

The overall considerable reason behind much of these actions and feelings rise from two things. One, our position and support of Israel. Two, our involvement, specifically military forces in Saudi Arabia, in the region.

The overall reason why they hate us as much as they do, is because they feel so strongly about the above reasons. That is just how they feel, and how they believe. Just the same as it is how you likely believe in the bible, how Hitler believed in annihilating Jews, etc.

[Infidel_Kastro]

Originally Posted by izme

What did America do to warrant the attack At the world trade center and the Death of so many people? What makes them think this was the right thing to do? This made all of the terrorist's look like fools with bombs with no real agenda, just killing in the name of allah and the arab world? I just do not get it.
How can Osama and the Terrorist's justify their actions?
Who looks bad here?

What goes through the mind of this idiot fanatic named Osama Bin Laden?
religious fanatic or cold and calculated killer? Probably both and more?

these answers elude me

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A simplistic response: Because you are not Muslim like them.

[RSM123]

izme,

To get some sense of the warped perspective these people have, may I suggest you check out these two sites :

http://www.muhajiroun.com/

http://www.abuhamza.com

Both of the above sites are regulated by (respectively) 'Sheikh' Mohammed Al Bakri and 'Sheikh' Abu Hamza. Both of these individuals reside here in Britain, having come here claiming asylum from 'oppression'. Both are unemployed and consequently live on Welfare (each receiving approx £1000 per week - about $1800) of British taxpayers money - to keep them comfortable, while they churn out this deceitful, rhetorical anti western poison.

We cannot expel them to their countries of origin as the 'law' of the European Union forbids sending people back to a country where they might conceivably face torture. Indeed Abu Hamza was sentenced to death in his absence for his role in terrorist murders. Therefore we are stuck with them (and others like them.)

Personally I would strap each to a MOAB and drop them somewhere far away.

The only thing that can be said in their defence is that like so many others of their 'kind', they talk lots about fighting and martyrdom - yet they would not dream of doing either themselves. Make of that what you will.

[LANMaster]

.... and they'll continue to hate you no matterr how far you shove your nose up their a****.

Negotiating is folly to these guys. I expect that Spain will learn a very painful lesson.

[izme]

this is just a question is all, thanks RSM and all of you for your opinion. it is like 1,000,000 Jeffrey Dahmer's justifying mass killings in the name of allah! Nothing but brain dead and brainwashed killers. Scum of the earth!
I don't see any of us strapping bombs to our chest or flyin into buildings! I know our government is killing arabs, but I am not and I have no intention of doing so. Just wanted to point out that these people are the freaks of the world, the bottom of the barrel, hell on earth. What ever you want to call them, the main point is they are extremist's bent on killing everyone even there own! and not worth spit!

Sick freaks is what they really are!

all I was saying is who is looking bad here!

If anyone needs extermination it is these sad excuses for human beings.
Terrorists and extremist's are the worst thing in this world! Bar none!

they reek of evil and bad intentions
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[LANMaster]

Islamic extremists are looking bad.

[izme]

good, those sad excuses for human beings! Killing Osama or any freak terrorist is like killing a cockroach is all. No humanity or goodness just like dahmer or any freak of this world. All of this killing in the name of religion over many centuries takes the cake as the most ignorant thing of humanity! bar none! How many kids here are raised to hate someone and kill them because of their religion? (prolly quite a few)

have a nice day at school dear, did you take your bomb pack?

the quran is looking more and more like the book of hate and death?
Massive brain washed Muslims (some good though, alot of good muslims) What a big freakin joke! allah allah jihad jihad my Arse, more like kill kill as hitler did!
all idiots I tell ya! that is as plain as the nose on your face! Extremist's are nothing but human cockroaches! lowest of the low!

[izme]

Originally Posted by AlbertB

Have you been reading any posts made by foreigners here on TSG over the last year?

Don't lay yourself open to being reeled in and gutted by asking questions like this one which will just get that same kneejerk reaction Izme! Accept it, they hate you just because they hate you, there couldn't be abything you do which triggers that hate could there?

gut me of you can is what I say, but we all know who the real pieces of crud are here Albert! Extremist muslims!
of course! They are killing there own too and hate EVERYONE, they hate everyone that is not a muslim. Sound like hitler to you?

they put themselves on some kind of pedestal as the best of humanity while being the scourge of the earth. Hatred of all humanity, even their neihbors. They are nothing but ignorant religious fools and nothing more, when you lay the facts on the table and compare cultures ect., no one in this world is as bad of a human being or culture except serial killers, So scream allah freaks! Talk to the hand, cuz I am not listenening. My hatred for them comes from their arrogence and will to kill anyone and everyone and committing suicide in the name of a religion is just plain sick! At least my hatred for them is justified, It is easy to hate killers and people who have no sense of humanity or anything full of such ignorant hatred ect.. You could ask them a tough question and most of them are so damned brain washed that the answer will always be allah and jihad? I think they are the one's that look bad in this world.

I spit on all of them and may they all burn in hell these extremist freaks, the world would be a better place without them. Period! But that's what they say also just don't see me murdering everyone that is not a christian ect.

big difference here!

[LANMaster]

Don't fall into the trap, Fishy.

Islam is not a religion of hate. Neither is Christianity.

The problem occurs when people attempt to interpret their holy works without God as their guide. The Crusades were a fine example of nothing less than what Islamic extremists are doing today. BTW, I think the Crusades still hold the record for the most murders in the name of God in the history of mankind.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the crusades account for millions of deaths in the name of Christ?

[pyritechips]

Here is a very interesting webpage, outlining all the wonderful things we have done to one another in the name of King, God and other excuses. It looks like the estimate for the Crusades varies greatly, from 1 to 5 million:

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm

[pyritechips]

Hmmm...Looks like America's slaughter of the Indians ranks right up there with Uncle Joe.

[izme]

I never killed a single Indian or enslaved a single Black man ect. and that is what alot of Countries do not understand,Why blame all Americans for our past screw ups? We are the innocent one's in several ways, we do not strap bombs on our backs ect. And Jim your country did it's share of killings ect. where is all of the indians in canada? Look at the french of days past my friend, we must not eat yesterdays cake cuz we will get the chits if ya know what I mean?
All Cultures have history of killing ect. And Canada is not immune to that!
Nor is any country if we look into the past. That is not the point, we must let go of this hatred and move on as human beings with humanity ect. Have we learned anything from our past? Doesn't look like it. Alot of folks here from Other countries pointing the finger at the USA, when we are taking these freaks out! Too many folks yelling at the USA instead of these freak extremist's who are the real cause of all of this. We just will get rid of them for the rest of the world, so do not bite the hand that feeds ya!

My hatred is not for Muslims or Islam it is for the freaks that bend it to meet their sick needs, just like Hitler or anyone! Islamic faith and muslims if they knew what they stand for are good.

[izme]

So all of you anti American 'We are a better country' folks had better look into your history's. No one is immune to ridicule! All have been killers of the masses, oppression ect. The brits have massive problems as do the Canadians or Any country and every single one has killed many ect. please do not be offended but to be frank, I see alot of anti american sentiment here!
Even the indians tried to wipe eachother out!
It is a killing planet folks and history is full of atrocities by all countries of this world. We are killing Terrorist's and some bystanders(a product of war)
Sounds like the right cause to me. Just wait till someone walks in to a Canadian mall with a large superbomb or a dirty bomb or even The brits get nuked or The aussies by these freaks, then your idea's will change? Easy to point the finger when your country did not lose thousands to a senseless act such as 911. I know I know, alot of country's lost people. but wait until it happens on such a large scale in your country's? Then maybe you will understand why we want to kick all of their ***** one by one! Till then sit in your country's with a false sense of security, but rest assured you are on the list and could be next! This war is against Terrorism! But don't come in here and bash us for taking these freaks out! This is a just cause. And anything that the terrorist does is wrong!

I am not mad at any other country just do not bash us for going after these sad excuses for human beings and protecting the world. You might be next on the list!
Watch your back is all I have to say! they hate you just as much!

But we are going after them! See ya freak Extremists!