[Paquadez]

Thanks, Chi. Must admit I couldn't remember and just used literal translation.

If I wasn't so lazy I would have checked!

Paq

[Chicon]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

Thanks, Chi. Must admit I couldn't remember and just used literal translation.

If I wasn't so lazy I would have checked!

Paq

Hi Paq,

You'd have a 'helluva' job to find the exact word because it comes straight from Parisian slang.
When you're in France and you hear something about 'Paname' or 'Pantruche', both names mean Paris.
And if you hear something about artiche, as, aspine, aubert, avoine, balles, beurre, biftons, blanquette, blé, boules, braise, bulle, caire, carbure, carme, craisbi, douille, fafiots, fifrelins, flouze, fourrage, fraîche, fric, galette, galtouse, ganot, gibe, graisse, grisbi, japonais, love, maille, mornifle, némo, os, oseille, osier, pépètes, pèse, picaillons, pimpions, plâtre, pognon, radis, ronds, soudure, talbins, trêfle, thune..., those words may have the same meaning : money.

[Paquadez]

Hi Chi. How is Belgium today? Which part are you in, BTW?

I would have cheated, Chi! A matter of finding the correct book.

Interesting about French slang. Our French house in the Pas de Calais, is in a farming area; small hamlet, so small there is no bar, no shop, nothing really, apart from the Marie.

All the old people speak patois; none of the younger people can understand them!

In the North, of course, they speak a different dialect; different words for some things and different pronounciation. Many names both family and "pronames" have Belgian roots. Ludwig/Ludovik is quite common, for example.

In the UK we also have many names for money; these vary in different regions.

Spondulix; dosh; greens; lucre; lolly; deniros; etc.

Some useful (and interesting!) URLs here:

http://www.businessballs.com/moneyslanghistory.htm

http://www.businessballs.com/cockney.htm

http://www.aldertons.com/money.htm

http://www.aldertons.com/english-.htm

Paq

[Chicon]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

Hi Chi. How is Belgium today? Which part are you in, BTW?...

Very quiet in spite the recent local elections we got this week-end. The weather is sweet for the season though the sky is cloudy.
I live not far from Mons, my native town and the only town where Saint-Georges fighting the dragon is celebrated in Belgium (English legacy left by the Hundred Years War).
There are a lot of English people who visit the town each year.

[Paquadez]

Haven't been to Mons, yet. Mons is roughly about where we are, in terms of North/South and further to the East, inland. We're circa 25 mins from the coast, between le Touquet and Etaples; sort of inland from Boulogne and down!

Paq

[angelize56]

Hi Mike: Are you going to see the new movie that just came out about the Queen that portrays her in a very unfavorable light in regards to Princess Diana's death?

[Paquadez]

Never go to the movies, Angel. Prefer to read. I watch some TV. Not a lot.

Most movies of recent times I have watched (On TV, Tape/DVD) have been 90% special effects and 10% story and plot if you are lucky; and as for the current genre of re-making classic films with the normal grungy clowns from the ratty pack and making kid's stories into full length feature films and nicking classic books like Tolkien, well I sort of run out of objective descriptions!

Are there no real script writers anymore? Or is it exploiting the crass state of majority public taste, in the sole cause (yet again!) of earning mega bucks for all concerned?

I fear that today, it is becoming hard to differentiate between movies and kid's computer games!

I would never watch anything about HM the Queen and Diana: I could think of nothing worse!

Just yet another exercise in earning big bucks and capitalising on the warped view far too many people have of The Queen of Hearts: and, of course, having a snide dig at the Palace, too.

Paq

[poochee]

Originally Posted by angelize56

Good morning Mike...and then good night! I happened to see you replied so thought you'd be the last person I posted to for this morning! I am not gullible! Maybe the media did a snowjob on Princess Di...but I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions of her! I can't believe everything negative I've read about her...I admired her as a woman and as a good Mum to Princes William and Harry! Maybe you in the U.K. know differently of her...but that's alright...you're entitled to your opinions too! By the way...your Queen is a snobby old lady! Good night Mike..and stop worrying!!! *HUGS*

Angel, I think Diana was a young woman who thought she was marrying Prince Charming and was going to live a fairy tale life! She was too young and immature to enter this type of marriage. Couldn't handle it and striking out she did things to harm herself. A tragedy. I remember the wedding. It was beautiful. Little did we know it would end the way it did.

[angelize56]

Agreed poochee! Some fairy tales have bad endings...

[ChrisJones]

Originally Posted by Paquadez

Never go to the movies, Angel. Prefer to read. I watch some TV. Not a lot.

Most movies of recent times I have watched (On TV, Tape/DVD) have been 90% special effects and 10% story and plot if you are lucky; and as for the current genre of re-making classic films with the normal grungy clowns from the ratty pack and making kid's stories into full length feature films and nicking classic books like Tolkien, well I sort of run out of objective descriptions!

Are there no real script writers anymore? Or is it exploiting the crass state of majority public taste, in the sole cause (yet again!) of earning mega bucks for all concerned?

Hey Paq,

I have to say I agree with everything you said there.... I've always been an avid cinema goer, attending my local cinema at least once a week... that is until the last year or so. I think in the past two years, I've seen three or four films that I was impressed with, other than that it was the usual hollywood drivel that panders to the lowest common denominator. "Jackass: The Movie" is a case in point. Who the hell pays a fiver ($10) to go and watch a bunch of immature rich kids damage themselves??? The show should be renamed "Dumbass: The Movie About Stupid People". There's no denying Johnny Knoxville and his band of cohorts have made a ton of cash out of their stupidity, but seriously, do people really want to watch that rubbish?

What did you think of the Lord of the Rings trilogy? As a fan of the books, long before the films were even suggested, I was quite impressed with the film interpretations. Granted there were patches of the storyline from the books missing but I can understand why certain parts were omitted. IMO they did a pretty good job.

Take care,

Chris.

[steppenwolf]

i doubt if she was murdered

who knows

[Paquadez]

Originally Posted by ChrisJones

What did you think of the Lord of the Rings trilogy? As a fan of the books, long before the films were even suggested, I was quite impressed with the film interpretations. Granted there were patches of the storyline from the books missing but I can understand why certain parts were omitted. IMO they did a pretty good job.

Take care,

Chris.

Haven't seen it, Chris. I'm sure I am wrong in this, but I have a sort of cynical biased perspective, these days, that any good book will be ruined when a self-important movie mogul turns it into a film; and explains the huge variances to the original storyline, as "Essential to make the film move along........." or some such drivel.

As a writer, what I have always loved about novels is that you have to use your imagination. This is also, of course, help people to develop Creative Visualisation, which is essential to any creative process. Having a series of pre-digested, accelerated freeze-dried, regurgitated images flashed in front of you helps to nullify the thought process and turns people into vegetables, from my perspective.

That was what was so wonderful about the original performances of Shakespeare: the audience had to try and imagine Bosworth Field, instead of seeing a computer created image, with swords and battleaxes chopping human beings to bits and blood jetting out everywhere................

I think the watershed of movies was after Sam Peckinpah and Bonnie and Clyde; the slomo action replays of machine gun bullets thudding into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow's bodies as they twisted and wriggled in their car, again and again and again.

I'm not stoopid, Sam: I get the idea!

Great films, like great books, convey emotion and move people to genuine tears, happiness, fear, in fact all the human emotions; they make you feel that the leading characters are very real and you might one day meet them in the street. You become right on the side of the White Hats and hate the Black Hats. Most of all, you feel a big let down when the story ends. You just want it to go on and on and on.

Can't say that about the remake of the remake of the remake of a kid's comic book story!

Paq

[jim0203]

Originally Posted by jack8

Yes I think she was done away with. But don't think we will ever get the truth.

Hi all,

It was interesting to see such a debate sparked by the post I made about "Princess Diana's Revenge" (http://forums.techguy.org/showthread...73#post4059673).

What I would say, in response to what Jack wrote, is that PDR, as a novel, deals with precisely this point: we will never get to the truth. It presents a fictionalisation of what might have happened, and is therefore different from a lot of the supposedly "factual" accounts relating to Diana's death.

The book is hopefully being reviewed in a few papers in the UK in the next couple of weeks; once I have the reviews I will post them here.

Jim