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22-Jul-2004, 08:17 AM #1
Congrats to Cynthia McKinney
CONGRATULATIONS TO CYNTHIA MCKINNEY

Congratulations to Cynthia McKinney who has succeeded in winning 51% of the primary vote in Georgia. McKinney was unseated by the Jewish Lobby two years ago because of her support for the Palestinian rights and for her defense of the Arab and Muslim communities. Cynthia was/is against the Iraqi War, and let us hope she will win the elections, though there is already evidence that pro-war forces would like to launch a nationally-focused campaign to stop Cynthia McKinney's return to Congress.

Here is a piece I wrote for Cynthia at her previous election campaign:


Ode to Cynthia

By Israel Shamir


Things must be bad indeed if a woman steps forward to the line of fire. Nature arranged that a woman does not court danger unless her land and her folks are in real trouble. But when she does, she teaches men a lesson of manly behaviour.

When France was fading away, a shepherd girl Jeanne d’Arc took a heavy sword and led the flower of French nobles to assault the walls of Orleans. When cities of Republican Spain was strafed by the Nazi Luftwaffe, it was a woman, Dolores Ibarruri, La Pasionaria, who said to her people: it is better to die tall, than to live on your knees. In 1990, when Mikhail Gorbachev led his country to disaster and disintegration, a year before the wealth of Russia was embezzled in privatisation spree, only one person has dared to raise her voice against the dictator in the parliament. She was the indomitable Sashie Umalatov, an MP from the Chechen Mountains.

Now it is the turn of the US to feel the chilly wind of eternity on its face. It came from unexpected direction. People of America became hostage in the hands of a few men with too many dollars in their pockets and endless greed in their hearts. For millennia, the difference of income, education, and standard of living was not so vast in one land. The wealth of the nation could provide every American with a superb education, perfect medical care, happy childhood, secure old age, guaranteed home, and free time to open one’s mind to new thoughts and old friends. America could be on its way to the Golden Age of universal happiness and wisdom.

Instead of it, a small group of men squeezes the nation in order to add another billion to their coffers. They would surely destroy the US by their limitless greed. The devotees of Mammon, they are totally devoid of compassion to the people they live amongst. They do not see the local people as ‘their own kind’. If they want to show compassion, they send money to Israel. Out of five dollars American taxpayer gives for aid, two dollars land in the coffers of the Jewish state. They appear unstoppable, as the politicians are scared of them and docilely raise their hands and sign the pledge promising to send more money to Israeli generals. Support of Israel is not a foreign policy. It is the covenant of the Mammonites, and you sign it with blood. With Palestinian blood.

But one woman refused to sign the pledge. One woman, Cynthia McKinney, a member for Georgia, dared to refuse. Four hundred congressmen signed it; they preferred their own personal advancement to the good of the country. Ancestors of Cynthia were slaves in her native Georgia. But she is one of a very few free persons in the US Congress. As we Israelis were used to say about our Golda Meir, she is the only man over there. She is a black woman, but she is the whitest man of them all, they would say before the Politically Correct era. She knew the billions of Israeli aid are needed for the poor people of the United States, for her own Afro-American community. She wanted to uphold the sovereignty of the people and congress of the United States, in face of encroaching servility to the Jewish Lobby.

She is not alone. Another wonderful Afro-American congresswoman, Barbara Lee, cast the only vote against the slaughter in Afghanistan; John Conyers, Jessie Jackson Jr, and Maxine Waters supported the cause of Palestine on different occasions. Ron Paul of Texas voted against all-house resolution sending obsequious greeting to General Sharon. Nick Rahall, John Sununu, David Bonior did not bend.

Cynthia was just more outspoken in seeing the evil. She said, “There are many Members of Congress who want to be free. I am one of them. I wanted to be free to vote according to my conscience, but I had been told that if I didn't sign a pledge supporting the military superiority of Israel, no support would come my way. And sure enough, I didn't sign the pledge and no support came my way. I suffered silently year in and year out, because I refused to sign that pledge. And then, like a slave that found a way to buy his freedom... I went to work ... I wanted to be free ... Free to cast the votes in the United States Congress as I saw fit and not as I was dictated to”.

Now she stands for re-election, and her chances are dim, as the frightful AIPAC, the spearhead of the organised Jewish community, targeted her. They do not want to see independent and free congressmen on the Capitol Hill. Their huge financial might, network of connections in the media and universities are used to smother every free voice. They succeeded to unseat Earl Hilliard, another Black Congressman, who did not bow to Sharon, and now plan to do Cynthia in. If they succeed, the cause of freedom will suffer a huge setback. If she succeeds, the myth of Jewish omnipotence will evaporate, and America will look towards better days, as support or rejection of segregated Israel speaks volumes about true agenda of a candidate.

Cynthia is not ‘against Jews’, as there are many very good folks of Jewish origin. While the organised Jewish community implements quite a disgusting policy, in domestic and foreign affairs alike, there are wonderful outsiders, ‘the remnant of Israel’. Rejected by the community and rejecting it, they stand for integration in Palestine and in the US. Some of them have supported Cynthia’s campaign; another outsider manages her campaign. Through them, ‘you will be blessed by all people’, the Lord’s promise to Abraham is made true.

ICynthia’s is not a divisive voice of Blacks vs. Whites, nor Democrats vs. Republicans, neither Left against Right. She speaks for the people of the US against foreign interests. She is the congresswoman who dared to remind of the USS Liberty seamen, butchered by Israeli heavy machine guns and missiles. She reminded her audience of the last stand of Faris Ode, the brave Palestinian kid who faced the Israeli tank with a stone and was murdered. She stands against corporate greed. She stands for the nature deemed expendable by the Greedies.

This woman with a name from the love lyrics of Propertius, the delicate Greek poet, who called himself ‘a pale knight in thrall of my angry Cynthia’, is an all-American figure, brought forth by the spirit of America. The great country does not want to die. In such moments, the land calls for its sons and daughters to step forward to the line of fire. Cynthia heard the call. Support of Cynthia is the ultimate test of love to America, of belief in America’s future in the family of nations, as an equal and friendly nation, not as an enforcer for creed of Greed.

It is paramount to rally around her, as the French nobles rallied to Jeanne d’Arc. Whether you are a descendant of African slaves or Muslim immigrants, a son of Confederacy or a Daughter of American Revolution, a freedom-loving Jew or a born-again Christian - it is the time to unite for Cynthia and for America.

---------------------------------

After her defeat, I wrote:

Cynthia was ambushed in the Democratic Party primaries, when her enemies brought in thousands of Republican voters to vote against Cynthia. Have the Republicans seen the light? Alexander Cockburn of the Counterpoint had another explanation, “Torrents of American Jewish money showered her opponent. Buckets of sewage were poured over McKinney's head in the [Jewish-owned and edited] Washington Post and the Atlanta Constitution”.

“Cynthia was not the first Afro-American victim of the Jewish Lobby”: Earl Hilliard, first elected black congressperson in Alabama since Reconstruction, was defeated by “a torrent of money from out-of-state American Jewish organizations”, writes Cockburn, for “calling for some even-handedness in the Middle East”.

Brilliant Edward Herman connected Cynthia’s defeat with that of Hilliard, another Black congressman who dared to oppose the Jewish Lobby. “The unique factor in both elections was the [Jewish] anger at these blacks for daring to oppose [their] policy. [Jewish Lobby’s] intrusions into the Alabama and Georgia elections and successful removal of Hilliard and McKinney are arguably a form of disenfranchisement of black voters, by money power rather than legal tricks or coercion, and should be strenuously opposed.”

Let us hope this time she will win!

The article about Cynthia can be found in my book Flowers of Galilee.

Israel Shamir


CYNTHIA MCKINNEY WINS, RESULTS SPELL TROUBLE FOR GOP

by
Wayne Madsen

Former Georgia Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who was abandoned by a number of statewide Georgia Democratic Party officials in 2002 after she questioned what George W. Bush knew about the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington prior to 911, rallied her supporters to claim a decisive win in Georgia's Fourth Congressional District primary on July 20.

By winning over 50 percent of the vote in the primary, McKinney avoided an August run-off election. She will face Repubican Catherine Davis in November in a heavily Democratic district. And having won this primary, McKinney is considered a virtual winner in November.

McKinney was outspent almost 2-to-1 by her two best organized rivals, State Senator Liane Levetan, an Austrian-Jewish émigré, and openly Lesbian former Altanta City Council President, Cathy Woolard. Levetan and Woolard split the political forces and campaign dollars, mostly originating from outside DeKalb County and Georgia, put in place to prevent a McKinney comeback. Levetan was reluctant to concede the election, contending that absentee votes could still put her into a run-off with McKinney.

Unofficial returns showed McKinney with 51 percent; Liane Levetan, 20 percent; Cathy Woolard, 19 percent; and three other minor candidates with 9 percent. As of July 21, the Associated Press had not called the Democratic nomination for McKinney.

In 2002, McKinney lost to political newcomer and ex-GOP Alan Keyes supporter Denise Majette in a primary that saw a number of Republican cross-over voters supporting Majette. McKinney launched a lawsuit which contested the election results. Majette, a former state judge, confounded anti-McKinney forces by announcing her candidacy for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat (and Bush supporter) Zell Miller. Majette was supported in 2002 by large campaign contributions from out-of-state Zionist organizations that wanted to punish McKinney for her strong support of Palestinian rights and her failure to vote for resolutions and legislation backing the Likud government of Ariel Sharon.

Majette bested millionaire tycoon Cliff Oxford in the Democratic Senate primary 41 to 21 percent. However, the two will face off in a primary in August. Oxford has the support of former President Jimmy Carter.

McKinney's win did not sit well with the major media outlets. Reuters referred to her links with the Nation of Islam. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, whose editorial board and columnist Cythia Tucker have been bitter opponents of McKinney, said the 5-term Congresswoman was tossed out of Congress for her "tirades" against Bush. The Los Angeles Times was kinder -- it referred to McKinney as a "liberal warhorse."

The interesting battle for McKinney will come in the 109th Congress. It is traditional for members who lose re-election for a single term to regain their seniority rights. With McKinney having a number of enemies -- Democrat and Republican -- in the House, an interesting fight can be expected.


http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...mckinney.shtml
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22-Jul-2004, 08:59 AM #2
XICO---that was one of the most obvious bits of anti-semitic propoganda I have recently read. It would make Goebbels very happy--If you lived during the Hitler period you could have worked for him. Congrats--you are one heavy duty Jew hater.
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CONGRATULATIONS TO CYNTHIA MCKINNEY

Congratulations to Cynthia McKinney who has succeeded in winning 51% of the primary vote in Georgia. McKinney was unseated by the Jewish Lobby two years ago because of her support for the Palestinian rights and for her defense of the Arab and Muslim communities. Cynthia was/is against the Iraqi War, and let us hope she will win the elections, though there is already evidence that pro-war forces would like to launch a nationally-focused campaign to stop Cynthia McKinney's return to Congress.

Here is a piece I wrote for Cynthia at her previous election campaign:


Ode to Cynthia

By Israel Shamir


Things must be bad indeed if a woman steps forward to the line of fire. Nature arranged that a woman does not court danger unless her land and her folks are in real trouble. But when she does, she teaches men a lesson of manly behaviour.

When France was fading away, a shepherd girl Jeanne d’Arc took a heavy sword and led the flower of French nobles to assault the walls of Orleans. When cities of Republican Spain was strafed by the Nazi Luftwaffe, it was a woman, Dolores Ibarruri, La Pasionaria, who said to her people: it is better to die tall, than to live on your knees. In 1990, when Mikhail Gorbachev led his country to disaster and disintegration, a year before the wealth of Russia was embezzled in privatisation spree, only one person has dared to raise her voice against the dictator in the parliament. She was the indomitable Sashie Umalatov, an MP from the Chechen Mountains.

Now it is the turn of the US to feel the chilly wind of eternity on its face. It came from unexpected direction. People of America became hostage in the hands of a few men with too many dollars in their pockets and endless greed in their hearts. For millennia, the difference of income, education, and standard of living was not so vast in one land. The wealth of the nation could provide every American with a superb education, perfect medical care, happy childhood, secure old age, guaranteed home, and free time to open one’s mind to new thoughts and old friends. America could be on its way to the Golden Age of universal happiness and wisdom.

Instead of it, a small group of men squeezes the nation in order to add another billion to their coffers. They would surely destroy the US by their limitless greed. The devotees of Mammon, they are totally devoid of compassion to the people they live amongst. They do not see the local people as ‘their own kind’. If they want to show compassion, they send money to Israel. Out of five dollars American taxpayer gives for aid, two dollars land in the coffers of the Jewish state. They appear unstoppable, as the politicians are scared of them and docilely raise their hands and sign the pledge promising to send more money to Israeli generals. Support of Israel is not a foreign policy. It is the covenant of the Mammonites, and you sign it with blood. With Palestinian blood.

But one woman refused to sign the pledge. One woman, Cynthia McKinney, a member for Georgia, dared to refuse. Four hundred congressmen signed it; they preferred their own personal advancement to the good of the country. Ancestors of Cynthia were slaves in her native Georgia. But she is one of a very few free persons in the US Congress. As we Israelis were used to say about our Golda Meir, she is the only man over there. She is a black woman, but she is the whitest man of them all, they would say before the Politically Correct era. She knew the billions of Israeli aid are needed for the poor people of the United States, for her own Afro-American community. She wanted to uphold the sovereignty of the people and congress of the United States, in face of encroaching servility to the Jewish Lobby.

She is not alone. Another wonderful Afro-American congresswoman, Barbara Lee, cast the only vote against the slaughter in Afghanistan; John Conyers, Jessie Jackson Jr, and Maxine Waters supported the cause of Palestine on different occasions. Ron Paul of Texas voted against all-house resolution sending obsequious greeting to General Sharon. Nick Rahall, John Sununu, David Bonior did not bend.

Cynthia was just more outspoken in seeing the evil. She said, “There are many Members of Congress who want to be free. I am one of them. I wanted to be free to vote according to my conscience, but I had been told that if I didn't sign a pledge supporting the military superiority of Israel, no support would come my way. And sure enough, I didn't sign the pledge and no support came my way. I suffered silently year in and year out, because I refused to sign that pledge. And then, like a slave that found a way to buy his freedom... I went to work ... I wanted to be free ... Free to cast the votes in the United States Congress as I saw fit and not as I was dictated to”.

Now she stands for re-election, and her chances are dim, as the frightful AIPAC, the spearhead of the organised Jewish community, targeted her. They do not want to see independent and free congressmen on the Capitol Hill. Their huge financial might, network of connections in the media and universities are used to smother every free voice. They succeeded to unseat Earl Hilliard, another Black Congressman, who did not bow to Sharon, and now plan to do Cynthia in. If they succeed, the cause of freedom will suffer a huge setback. If she succeeds, the myth of Jewish omnipotence will evaporate, and America will look towards better days, as support or rejection of segregated Israel speaks volumes about true agenda of a candidate.

Cynthia is not ‘against Jews’, as there are many very good folks of Jewish origin. While the organised Jewish community implements quite a disgusting policy, in domestic and foreign affairs alike, there are wonderful outsiders, ‘the remnant of Israel’. Rejected by the community and rejecting it, they stand for integration in Palestine and in the US. Some of them have supported Cynthia’s campaign; another outsider manages her campaign. Through them, ‘you will be blessed by all people’, the Lord’s promise to Abraham is made true.

ICynthia’s is not a divisive voice of Blacks vs. Whites, nor Democrats vs. Republicans, neither Left against Right. She speaks for the people of the US against foreign interests. She is the congresswoman who dared to remind of the USS Liberty seamen, butchered by Israeli heavy machine guns and missiles. She reminded her audience of the last stand of Faris Ode, the brave Palestinian kid who faced the Israeli tank with a stone and was murdered. She stands against corporate greed. She stands for the nature deemed expendable by the Greedies.

This woman with a name from the love lyrics of Propertius, the delicate Greek poet, who called himself ‘a pale knight in thrall of my angry Cynthia’, is an all-American figure, brought forth by the spirit of America. The great country does not want to die. In such moments, the land calls for its sons and daughters to step forward to the line of fire. Cynthia heard the call. Support of Cynthia is the ultimate test of love to America, of belief in America’s future in the family of nations, as an equal and friendly nation, not as an enforcer for creed of Greed.

It is paramount to rally around her, as the French nobles rallied to Jeanne d’Arc. Whether you are a descendant of African slaves or Muslim immigrants, a son of Confederacy or a Daughter of American Revolution, a freedom-loving Jew or a born-again Christian - it is the time to unite for Cynthia and for America.

---------------------------------

After her defeat, I wrote:

Cynthia was ambushed in the Democratic Party primaries, when her enemies brought in thousands of Republican voters to vote against Cynthia. Have the Republicans seen the light? Alexander Cockburn of the Counterpoint had another explanation, “Torrents of American Jewish money showered her opponent. Buckets of sewage were poured over McKinney's head in the [Jewish-owned and edited] Washington Post and the Atlanta Constitution”.

“Cynthia was not the first Afro-American victim of the Jewish Lobby”: Earl Hilliard, first elected black congressperson in Alabama since Reconstruction, was defeated by “a torrent of money from out-of-state American Jewish organizations”, writes Cockburn, for “calling for some even-handedness in the Middle East”.

Brilliant Edward Herman connected Cynthia’s defeat with that of Hilliard, another Black congressman who dared to oppose the Jewish Lobby. “The unique factor in both elections was the [Jewish] anger at these blacks for daring to oppose [their] policy. [Jewish Lobby’s] intrusions into the Alabama and Georgia elections and successful removal of Hilliard and McKinney are arguably a form of disenfranchisement of black voters, by money power rather than legal tricks or coercion, and should be strenuously opposed.”

Let us hope this time she will win!

The article about Cynthia can be found in my book Flowers of Galilee.

Israel Shamir


CYNTHIA MCKINNEY WINS, RESULTS SPELL TROUBLE FOR GOP

by
Wayne Madsen

Former Georgia Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, who was abandoned by a number of statewide Georgia Democratic Party officials in 2002 after she questioned what George W. Bush knew about the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington prior to 911, rallied her supporters to claim a decisive win in Georgia's Fourth Congressional District primary on July 20.

By winning over 50 percent of the vote in the primary, McKinney avoided an August run-off election. She will face Repubican Catherine Davis in November in a heavily Democratic district. And having won this primary, McKinney is considered a virtual winner in November.

McKinney was outspent almost 2-to-1 by her two best organized rivals, State Senator Liane Levetan, an Austrian-Jewish émigré, and openly Lesbian former Altanta City Council President, Cathy Woolard. Levetan and Woolard split the political forces and campaign dollars, mostly originating from outside DeKalb County and Georgia, put in place to prevent a McKinney comeback. Levetan was reluctant to concede the election, contending that absentee votes could still put her into a run-off with McKinney.

Unofficial returns showed McKinney with 51 percent; Liane Levetan, 20 percent; Cathy Woolard, 19 percent; and three other minor candidates with 9 percent. As of July 21, the Associated Press had not called the Democratic nomination for McKinney.

In 2002, McKinney lost to political newcomer and ex-GOP Alan Keyes supporter Denise Majette in a primary that saw a number of Republican cross-over voters supporting Majette. McKinney launched a lawsuit which contested the election results. Majette, a former state judge, confounded anti-McKinney forces by announcing her candidacy for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat (and Bush supporter) Zell Miller. Majette was supported in 2002 by large campaign contributions from out-of-state Zionist organizations that wanted to punish McKinney for her strong support of Palestinian rights and her failure to vote for resolutions and legislation backing the Likud government of Ariel Sharon.

Majette bested millionaire tycoon Cliff Oxford in the Democratic Senate primary 41 to 21 percent. However, the two will face off in a primary in August. Oxford has the support of former President Jimmy Carter.

McKinney's win did not sit well with the major media outlets. Reuters referred to her links with the Nation of Islam. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, whose editorial board and columnist Cythia Tucker have been bitter opponents of McKinney, said the 5-term Congresswoman was tossed out of Congress for her "tirades" against Bush. The Los Angeles Times was kinder -- it referred to McKinney as a "liberal warhorse."

The interesting battle for McKinney will come in the 109th Congress. It is traditional for members who lose re-election for a single term to regain their seniority rights. With McKinney having a number of enemies -- Democrat and Republican -- in the House, an interesting fight can be expected.


http://www.fromthewilderness.com/fre...mckinney.shtml
Good Luck Cynthia!

Anti-Jewish for asking for fair treatment of Arabs?
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22-Jul-2004, 04:23 PM #4
Bassetman, you are obviously a bit slow---this is what I object too because it reeks of classical anti-semitism

"Instead of it, a small group of men squeezes the nation in order to add another billion to their coffers. They would surely destroy the US by their limitless greed. The devotees of Mammon, they are totally devoid of compassion to the people they live amongst. They do not see the local people as 'their own kind'. If they want to show compassion, they send money to Israel"

Basset--pay attention---do you know what "small group of men" is a euphemisim for??

JEWS--the JEWISH INTEREST, THE JEWISH CABAL----You know the PROTOCOLS OF ZION thing---

This is a common mode of thought among anti-semites, particularly those on the far right and on the far right and especially among those in the Arab world. This animal never mentions the billions of dollars that Jews donate to US based charities!

Bassetman--think before you type!
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22-Jul-2004, 04:28 PM #5
By the way, this piece of human excrement Israel Shamir----writes for a site called :

http://www.rense.com---

Check this site, read it carefully--it is controled by a Lyndon Larouche type fanatic---you know someone so deeply mired in conspiracy theory, someone who believes in aliens, someone who hates Jews with an undying passion. Thise www. rense.com is part KKK, part Bolshevik, part Hale-Bopp, part anarchist, part Reverend Moon---check it out and vomit. I knew this guy was a classic Jew hater.
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22-Jul-2004, 04:32 PM #6
Oh--one last thing--here is an article from the website that Xico the Jew Hater writes for---http://joevialls.altermedia.info/fortress2.html.

If you had any doubts just read this nonsensical attempt to demonize world Jewry.
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Oh--one last thing--here is an article from the website that Xico the Jew Hater writes for---http://joevialls.altermedia.info/fortress2.html.

If you had any doubts just read this nonsensical attempt to demonize world Jewry.
I guess my other warnings to you have gone unheeded

You either need to abide by the forum rules, or go post somewhere else! THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING!
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Many of us disagree with each other here, but we still retain rules of cililized behavior!

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Question for you ACA Candy--so its okay for a guy like XICO to expouse his anti-semitic philosophy in this room, but its not okay for me to call him on it? Did you even bother to read the thread and the websites I posted. Talk about censorship----Do what you want to do.
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Question for you ACA Candy--so its okay for a guy like XICO to expouse his anti-semitic philosophy in this room, but its not okay for me to call him on it? Did you even bother to read the thread and the websites I posted. Talk about censorship----Do what you want to do.

Feel free to EXPRESS any position you wish. When you need to resort to name calling childishness, that is when you cross the bounds of the forum rules. They are pretty simple, I suggest you read them

And it's not called censorship, it's called common courtesy

By the way, you may have noticed the BYLINE on xico's post, in case you aren't familiar with that, that actually means SOMEONE ELSE wrote it.

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http://www.rense.com

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22-Jul-2004, 05:15 PM #13
Hold on a second--- XICO is the poster and the first lines of his post are--------

CONGRATULATIONS TO CYNTHIA MCKINNEY

Congratulations to Cynthia McKinney who has succeeded in winning 51% of the primary vote in Georgia. McKinney was unseated by the Jewish Lobby two years ago because of her support for the Palestinian rights and for her defense of the Arab and Muslim communities. Cynthia was/is against the Iraqi War, and let us hope she will win the elections, though there is already evidence that pro-war forces would like to launch a nationally-focused campaign to stop Cynthia McKinney's return to Congress.

Here is a piece I wrote for Cynthia at her previous election campaign:


Ode to Cynthia

By Israel Shamir

Israel Shamir=XICO--or at least that would be the conclusion I think that most would draw--but its irrelevent--

Why is calling someone an anti-semite or Jew hater name calling---It is just descriptive of the characters involved---And to this point, I dont see them denying it with facts. Perhaps you wouldn't have a problem if I said that they had an irrational dislike of Jews?
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XICO---that was one of the most obvious bits of anti-semitic propoganda I have recently read. It would make Goebbels very happy--If you lived during the Hitler period you could have worked for him. Congrats--you are one heavy duty Jew hater.
Gee Rex, I'm sorry I upset you, but I don't hate anyone, and I don't hate Jews. Yes, I am pro Palestinian because of what the Zionists are doing to them. I was pro Jew when the Nazis were doing horrific things to them. No, I would not have worked for Hitler any more than I would work for Bush or Sharon. But, lest you have not heard, the Pals are a semitic people, probably more so than the Jews who came from Khazaria, that's Eastern European Jewery.
You can claim that the Pals are killing innocent Jews, and yes, that's true, they are killing Jews; but the Zionists have killed 3 times as many Pals, including children, than the Pals have killed Jews. Is Shamir lying when he says that the Palestinian children can't play in the fields any more, that they have to play in the shopping malls, because of Israel Defense Force snipers? He's there. He lives in Jaffa. He was an Israeli paratrooper who fought in the 67 war. He was a Siberian Jew who has since become an Orthodox Greek Christian. Is he a Jew hater? Come on, get real. Just because someone critisizes Israel or the 50 Jewish billionaires that make up "Mega," doesn't mean he's anti Jewish. It was Sharon himself that told the Knesset not to worry about America because the Jews control America, and you know, it certainly looks that way.
I don't want Jews controlling America any more than I want the English or any one else controlling America. I want the Government to be a constitutional government with respect for the people's rights, of the people, for the people and by the people. Dead Iraqis may be good for Israel, but they don't do a thing for the United States, except to make us look like very foolish people, people who have succumbed to military power for the sake of their
greedy corporations. What is being done in our name is threatening the very fabric of our democracy.
Try to realize that because people are pro Palestinian doesn't make them Jew haters or anti semitic. The killing on both sides is a loss for everyone. Life is too short for everybody. But the Palestinians have a right not to be molested, and they have the right of return according to International Law. Why is it that Israel can thumb their noses at the world court with impunity? Why is it that Israel can have WMD with impunity? Why is it that Israel can violate UN sanctions with impunity? And why does the US Government always agree with Israel? And why are our tax dollars going to Israel to the tune of 250 billion dollars when our schools and libraries are under funded?
I have several other posts that I think I need to post; perhaps you can answer them. Tell me, show me, I'm wrong. Prove to me that Shamir is lying. Please, don't just scold me with worn out cliches.

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Israel Shamir=XICO--or at least that would be the conclusion I think that most would draw--but its irrelevent--

Why is calling someone an anti-semite or Jew hater name calling---It is just descriptive of the characters involved---And to this point, I dont see them denying it with facts. Perhaps you wouldn't have a problem if I said that they had an irrational dislike of Jews?

1) I do not believe from what is posted that Xico is Israel Shamir

2) While we certainly don't discourage productive and useful debate relating to the particular topic at issue, posts that are made for the purpose of arguing or debating, in a nonproductive or inflammatory manner (cut and paste from forum rules)
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