[Chris A]

http://media1.stream2you.com/rnc/072304v2.wmv

Must have windows media..

[LANMaster]

bump!

[Ciberblade]

That guy who played the main character was as bad for Kerry as F911 was for Bush!

[GoneForNow]

Absolutely amazing!.. We are going to see this again and again, during and after the Republican Convention.

[Chris A]

It seems kind of funny how the Liberal media will jump all over a made up story like Moore's yet remain silent on truthfull things.

[Ciberblade]

Good point, those who say the media is not biased, are not commenting on why this has not found it's way into the news. JibJab even got a prime-time spot.

[Chris A]

Originally Posted by ciberblade

Good point, those who say the media is not biased, are not commenting on why this has not found it's way into the news. JibJab even got a prime-time spot.

Even here it gets no bounce but it is coming... The Media will turn on Kerry just like they did on Dean. It has already started with Theresa...

[Davey7549]

I wouldn't bet on that Chris! The media has set their agenda.
We shall see though!

Notice the lack of Kerry supporters commenting on this!
Best to sweep in under and let it die seems their motto!

Dave

[Ciberblade]

Davey ~ I think that is the heart of this election. There are no Kerry supporters, only those who hate Bush.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by ciberblade

Davey ~ I think that is the heart of this election. There are no Kerry supporters, only those who hate Bush.

Have to agree with that.
Most that are anti Bush do seem to resent their rights eroding and many that back Bush, especially here, seem to applaud the neocon dogma of Strauss.
Wish the last weren't true, but that is what I've observed since Bush started this 'preemptive war' concept.
The Dems could have nominated a better candidate, but Kerry was their choice.


So, yes, I hate what Bush has done to the US.
But then, I've said this before

[MSM Hobbes]

My vote for Bush this fall is not necessarily a vote for Bush nor his policies...

[LANMaster]

Watching those clips, one would think Kerry fully supported our actions in Iraq beyond any shadow of a doubt.

He's doing the same thing now that he did back in 1971. Support the mission fully up front, but when it is politically adventagious, SWAP SIDES! Regardless how many US troops are killed due to your public statements.

Watching those clips one would even call him hawkish.

A large percent of the anti-war movement people are those who wish NEVER to enter a war without the willingness to finish the job and get out. I cannot imagine any of those people supporting someone as wishy-washy as Kerry. Especially when you look at his stand on military action.

[Stoner]

It's a tough call LAN, but many citizens just aren't up to murdering for profit
So Kerry becomes the choice(perhaps not the best choice) to stop the neoconservative push to dominate the world by murder and brutality.

Looks like too many Bushies praise money rather than the Lord, ironic eh?, go figure?

[LANMaster]

Originally Posted by Stoner

It's a tough call LAN, but many citizens just aren't up to murdering for profit
So Kerry becomes the choice(perhaps not the best choice) to stop the neoconservative push to dominate the world by murder and brutality.

Looks like too many Bushies praise money rather than the Lord, ironic eh?, go figure?

Murder for profit? Looks like you have gone over the cliff again.

You honestly think the Bush Administration is that synister, and that the security of the US was not the paramount concern that took us to war.

Sure you don't want to vote for Hillary or Nancy Pelozi? Or Ted Kennedy?
They all seem to have a point of view much closer to yours than Kerry or Edwards.

[MSM Hobbes]

Originally Posted by Stoner

...snip... Looks like too many Bushies praise money rather than the Lord, ironic eh?, go figure?

And as if the Kerry/Edwards camp and Dems are themselves poor, homeless, bums out there to protect and help us? Yea, uhuh...

Seriously, we all are adults and realize that politics cost money, and money is what makes this world run - for all parties, in all countries - so, gets a tad old when folks keep saying that the Repubs are for the corporations and the Dems are for the people - HOGWASH!!! Both parties are neck deep in debt to corporations, its just our perspective from the BS and spin that leads some to believe that crud.... IMHO.

Just one "for example":
Found at: http://www.detnews.com/2004/politics.../a04-52592.htm

02Feb04

Kerry, Edwards don't tell whole story on soft money
Dems say they spurn special interests; records don't agree
By John Solomon / Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Democrats John Kerry and John Edwards are fond of telling voters they are spurning special-interest money during their White House bids, but voters beware. Their boasts hardly tell the whole story.

Kerry, who says he hasn’t taken a dime of political action committee money for his presidential campaign, in fact ran a tax-exempt political committee that collected nearly a half-million dollars from companies and labor unions just before those types of donations were outlawed in late 2002, tax records show.

Many of the biggest donors to that effort came from companies with direct interests before Kerry’s Senate committee, and the Massachusetts Democrat spent much of the money laying groundwork in early presidential primary states, according to the records.

Edwards, who tells voters he rejects donations to his presidential campaign from Washington lobbyists, took one donation in 2002 from a lobbying firm. He also collected more than $80,000 from people who aren’t formally registered as lobbyists but nonetheless work for some of Washington’s powerhouse firms.

Edwards also has accepted more than $150,000 worth of flights aboard the corporate jets of special interests, a helpful perk for a candidate crisscrossing the country that also allows the corporate provider to bend the ear of a White House aspirant.

“They are both in up to their necks with special interest money,” said Charles Lewis, head of the Center for Public Integrity, a Washington watchdog group that recently published “The Buying of the President 2004,” which tracks the sources of of political money for the presidential hopefuls.

“This rhetoric has a rather hollow ring to it. It is hypocritical,” Lewis said.

Edwards’ campaign declined Sunday to discuss the 2002 donation from a lobbying firm. Edwards’ presidential fund-raising report “confirms Senator Edwards’ policy of never having taken a dime from Washington lobbyists,” spokeswoman Jennifer Palmieri said.

As his stock has risen after his surprise wins in Iowa and New Hampshire, Kerry has increasingly portrayed himself as free from special interest money.

While technically correct, his boast omits the fact that he was one of the largest recipients of donations from individual lawyers and lobbyists among all senators and that he created a vehicle in 2002 to collect large checks from companies, labor unions and other special interests on the eve of his presidential bid.

Kerry collected more than $470,000 from companies and unions in 2002 for his Citizen Soldier Fund before Congress banned the use of such “soft money” donations, according to records his group filed with the IRS.