[toptemp]

thanks

[Wet Chicken]

What is your definition to the word "error"?

Please be more specific as to what you are looking for...

[Mulderator]

I'll give you an error: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife"

That's bull$hit! You realize how much more fun life would be if Mulder could covet everyone's else's wife?

[Wet Chicken]

Originally Posted by Mulder

I'll give you an error: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife"

Moses made a mistake when he carved that part of the 10 commandments.

It was supposed to say "Thou shall not cover thy neighbor's wife"

[brushmaster1]

In the description of the temple, a circular pool is described. In that description, PI is stated to be exactly equal to 3!

[jaye944]

toptemp,

why ???

[rikzilla]

Originally Posted by toptemp

I would like to see what some people's opinion is on the factualness of the Bible.

Since people don't walk on water, rise from the dead, fly, or are suddenly turned into pillars of salt I'd have to say that my informed opinion is that the Bible is not factual at all.

Can it be trusted?

In a word, no.

And please don't just go on about contradictions that are always arguable.

Okay, let's take one example (there are many, but one will do) the Bible says that God stopped the earth from turning for a day.

Joshua, Chapter 10

10:12
Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Not even remotely possible. If a God did stop the world turning the sudden stop would fling the world into instant rubble. Everything not firmly attached to the suddenly motionless earth would be flung to the east at about 580 kilometers per hour. Literally it would mean worldwide destruction with the great oceans roaring across even the highest mountains at 580 KPH.

It's ridiculous...it's nonsense. It's amazing that modern humans have this weird primitive need for such utter and obvious crappola.

-z

[EdGreene]

You asked for it, you got it: one Hand Grenade over the Biblic Transom:

Originally Posted by toptemp

I would like to see what some people's opinion is on the factualness of the Bible. Can it be trusted? And please don't just go on about contradictions that are always arguable.

Argue this someone:
All the water there ever has been in our "world" is either underground, on the surface or in the skies. Since the Earth has (had a) serious gravity field and since water vapors by themselves can't reach "escape velocity", the facts I noted about water stand on their own merit:
"res ipso facto" (the thing speaks for itself*) .

Why does that make at least one part of the Bible 100% dead wrong?

There is not, not within the biosphere of Earth at least, enough water to ever have had a "world-wide" Flood, especially enough to cover Mount Everest, or even mount Ararat.

NOT ENOUGH WATER FOR A FLOOD.

I rest my case

Merriam Webster: 2004
Main Entry: ip·so fac·to
Pronunciation: 'ip-(")sO-'fak-(")tO
Function: adverb
Etymology: New Latin, literally, by the fact itself
: by that very fact or act : as an inevitable result

[DNeurococo]

Toptemp: the Bible speaks of: witches, wizards, giants, dragons, and sea monsters.

Do you really believe those things exist/existed?

[valley]

Originally Posted by Mulder

I'll give you an error: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's wife"

That's bull$hit! You realize how much more fun life would be if Mulder could covet everyone's else's wife?

Mully! What in God's creation are you doing slumming it up here in civi deb???

[valley]

Originally Posted by DNeurococo

Toptemp: the Bible speaks of: witches,

Do you really believe those things exist/existed?

SexyTech might be able to answer this one for ya

[DNeurococo]

Why? Is SexyTech a witch?

By the way, Toptemp (and others): do you agree with Bible scholars who, after examining the generations mentioned in the Bible, put the age of the earth at about 6,000 years?

[valley]

Originally Posted by DNeurococo

Why? Is SexyTech a witch?

No, a witch is a woman...ST is Pagan, but he has his own book of shadows and I am quite sure that he is a practicing wiccan, if you can call it that. Thats why he will have to answer you in this. He has far more knowledge of Wicca than I do.

[Wet Chicken]

Originally Posted by rikzilla

the Bible says that God stopped the earth from turning for a day.

I think you are confused... wasn't that Superman that stopped the earth from turning after his girlfriend died?

[BrickMortar]

Originally Posted by rikzilla

Since people don't walk on water, rise from the dead, fly, or are suddenly turned into pillars of salt I'd have to say that my informed opinion is that the Bible is not factual at all.

Nothing but rumor and superstition perpetuated by the mentally ill.

Originally Posted by rikzilla

Okay, let's take one example (there are many, but one will do) the Bible says that God stopped the earth from turning for a day. Not even remotely possible. If a God did stop the world turning the sudden stop would fling the world into instant rubble. Everything not firmly attached to the suddenly motionless earth would be flung to the east at about 580 kilometers per hour.

Although I wouldn't mind that one , say once a year (Fling Day) to thin out the town riff-raff.

Originally Posted by EdGreene

Argue this someone:
All the water there ever has been in our "world" is either underground, on the surface or in the skies. Since the Earth has (had a) serious gravity field and since water vapors by themselves can't reach "escape velocity", the facts I noted about water stand on their own merit:
"res ipso facto" (the thing speaks for itself*) .

Why does that make at least one part of the Bible 100% dead wrong?

There is not, not within the biosphere of Earth at least, enough water to ever have had a "world-wide" Flood, especially enough to cover Mount Everest, or even mount Ararat.

NOT ENOUGH WATER FOR A FLOOD.

I rest my case

...and I need a drink!