[Wino]

Originally Posted by AcaCandy

So is your cousin a crook or doing anything illegal? Or is he just doing his job?

Probably all three, if he works for Arthur Anderson!

[Wet Chicken]

Originally Posted by AcaCandy

So is your cousin a crook or doing anything illegal? Or is he just doing his job?

With a CPA it's hard to differentiate between the two

[EdGreene]

Originally Posted by GrumpyHermit

I wonder if Ed whined this much in the Airborne?

No "whine" here.

And we were Paratroopers, always looking each other in the eye, with respect. We never had the pettiness of a long distance, no-see, no touch, vapid, vaporous relationship ina society of individuals whose main similarity is a keyboard and disposable income.

We each knew the others skills, we helped each other, we never pulled against the other.
There was no, is no "Republican" or "Democrat" in the Airborne Corp: No "Liberals", no "conservatives".

There was just "us": warriors in a military society:
Your Silver Wings made you:

"One of us,
And those like us;
And the damn few of us left".
A feeling those who are not, were never Airborne could ever understand.

[contralto]

Originally Posted by Wet Chicken

Fibromyalgia and Chronic Myofascial Pain often occur together. Chronic Myofascial Pain was previously called Myofascial Pain Syndrome. Pilates will help you with this. Inversion is also good, in fact it is so good that most people who use it say they are addicted to it and will never stop using it. CoQ10 is also good to take BUT do not waste your money on synthetic (it comes from the tobacco leaf). Use only CoQ10 that comes from Japan. Acidophilious is also good if you have Candida, which most people with Fibromyalgia have. Just make sure it is a NON-dairy version. Vitamin B and DMG have also been shown to work great. Hope that helps

thanx for your input, wc.
i will discuss the above with my massage therapist/naturopath during my appoointment tomorrow.
i should have mentioned that massage therapy is very helpful too.

[Wet Chicken]

OK no problem If you need more information or anything just let me know

BTW - unless your massage therapist has a degree in nutrition they might not know what was mentioned. If you need I can post some info from some medical books that I have if that helps

[muw]

Hey WC do you know anything about "Pains" in A$$? I have several of them I think comes from setting at this Keyboard!

[Wet Chicken]

What are you sitting on? No wait, on second thought don't tell me

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by Wet Chicken

All I know is that my cousin is a Professional CPA for some of the countries biggest corporations, and he tells us all the time how they use this loop hole or that loop hole to get out of their responsibilities. By the way, his firm also does taxes for some well known movie stars, and they get the same "loop hole" treatment, so it's not just corporations, it has more to do with being rich (ie Millionaire)

The next time I see him I'll ask him more specific information for you. Inquiring minds want to know

This is what I got into it with bassetman about. This is called "anecdotal" information. In other words, "I've go a friend that said blah blah blah". Who gives a rat's arse? Your friend is wrong. Tell him to cite you the IRS Code Section that allows any corporation to get out of paying their taxes. I am a CPA and an attorney and I am continually amazed at these claims of how CPAs and attorneys find "loop holes" to get "rich" people out of paying taxes. I've got news for you--its bull$hit, plain and simple. Trust me, if I could figure out a way to get out of paying my taxes legally, I would have done it by now. Again, instead of telling us what some friend said, cite to the IRS Code Section and/or law that supports your claim, otherwise don't make it--its worthless.

Now there are legal deductions that lower people's taxes. For example, with individuals, if you own a home, you can write off the interest. That's what you are calling a "loophole". It is a valid deduction written into the tax code (and if it were up to liberals, it would be gone). A corporation can invest in areas that are desiganted as "blighted" areas--typically in large cities where the area has become run down. I can tell you there are huge tax incentives for businesses to do that. Here in California in the city of Santa Ana, there has been a ton of investment just for that purpose.

Now, some liberal journalist would get ahold of the tax return of "Corporation A" and whine in an oh so socialistic whine about how the government favors the rich corporations because they didn't pay any taxes in 2003 and you liberals would swallow it hook, line, and sinker. What you won't see written in the rag is the fact that the corporation invested millions of dollars to rejuvenate Santa Ana (and it is being rejuvenated) and took their legal tax advantage. It is a "win-win" situation for both goverment and the corporation.

The really sad part of what I see in these debates is many of you on the "liberal high moral ground" side of the fence think you are fighting the good fight and pointing out all these things that favor the rich without having even a hint of what the hell you are talking about. You would change the entire tax code eliminating the "loop holes" (as you almost certainly would for any corporation tax deduction) without realizing that many of those "loop holes" are there for a very good reason and have a favorable outcome on society albeit someone gets out of paying as much tax as the next guy (or corporation).

Have you liberals ever wondered why this country is so much more powerful economically than any other? Its the fact that business is permitted to be conducted with a minimum of legislative interference. It is because of some very smart and adept people who over the decades have balanced the rights of businesses against the abuses so that everyone benefits. Everyone in this country has benefitted from the way in which business has been permitted to be conducted. People from all over the world want to move here to obtain that freedom (and you liberals think they want freedom of expression! ). And the Moore-ons think they are doing us all a big favor by fighting to make the country more like Norway or Sweden or a host of other socialist countries where it is so hard to start and run a business that no one even bothers to start it. The result is the economies stagnate and everyone loses.

There is an old saying, "Be careful what you wish for". You liberals who think you're fighting to make things better for the "poor" are going to end up making things worse for everyone, including the poor. You think you'd be able to learn from the lessons of failed socialist economies all over the world, yet each one of you think that somehow you've figured out the road to Utopia! Just tax the corporations more and free the porr and middle class people from tax burdens!

As Gbrumb (another attorney that understands the intricacies of the tax code and the laws and how they work to achieve a particular result) said, reading some of this stuff here is comical--some of the opinions are so ill-advised and so uninformed that I wonder how we (the USA) have been able to keep a competetive edge. The answer of course, is that the liberals have succeeded in poisining most of the other countries in the world and have set their sights on the USA. We've kept them from destroying the work of forward economic thinkers for decades now. It is really just unbelievable what some of you people think you want. Problem is what you "need" is very different than what you "want".

[muw]

You know Mulder as an Attorney friend of mine once said "Being an Attorney doesn't mean that you are smart it only means that you are persistent”! I think that goes for CPA’s too!

This country wasn’t founded for Attorney’s by Attorney’s and most Attorney’s I know only fought for their own wallet not for this Country! There are exceptions for every rule!

I agree with a lot of your last statement but I really wish we could get “past” this liberal “thing”!

Before you speak I should add I spent 7.5 years as a “Bail Bondman” and I have a lot of experience with Attorney’s both Good and Bad by working with them on a daily basis! More experience might I dare say than MOST Attorney’s have. I know how the system works and why and if you seriously want to convince me of anything please don’t “blow” smoke!

The IRS Tax Code is for the poor, middle class, and those Rich who get “caught” by the Media and can’t pay their way out under the table or stall the system until a “Republican” gets into office! Want me to start naming names? There is a BUNCH of them recently! Want to play MCI?

It is the “Balance” that all sides provide that keeps our system working together and when one side belittles or abuses the other side you can’t help but get a negative reaction! This appears to be all the Bush camp is able to do!

When the “True” Republicans like former Representative Joe Scarborough starts talking down “your” side maybe you should reconsider your position!

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by muw

When the “True” Republicans like former Representative Joe Scarborough starts talking down “your” side maybe you should reconsider your position!

Oh, you mean like Democratic Senator Zell Miller? Perhaps it is you that should listen to him and reconsider your position!

[Wet Chicken]

Originally Posted by Mulder_Lite

Your friend is wrong.

My "friend" is my cousin, and he and his firm is one of the most sought after CPA's in this part of the country! He is also a professor at one of our biggest universities and I think he just might know what he's talking about. Sounds like you should maybe take one of his classes. Your stock answer for everything seems to be "blame it on the liberals". It's like a broken record

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by Wet Chicken

He is also a professor at one of our biggest universities

That pretty much tells me all I need to know!

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Mulder_Lite

That pretty much tells me all I need to know!

Geez Mulder, one day you brag about your edumication, and the next day7 you deride people who tech ummm people like you!

It's getting harder to tell when you are bragging and when you are complaining!

[valley]

Originally Posted by Moby

I'm worried Val, he'll be wanting my bloody babies next!

Just keep on keeping that beautiful lady in Wales tucked safely away from him and your worries will be gone But if it came to that, I'd be happy to fend him off with a stick for ya, if neccessary!

[xico]

Originally Posted by muw

Hey WC do you know anything about "Pains" in A$$? I have several of them I think comes from setting at this Keyboard!

muw, with as many posts as you have, I am beginning to wonder if you are not a group of writers Im having a hard time keeping up with the reading, much less making an answer, much less posting! Wow! Mulkder and Mulder Lite seem to be pretty productive too.

I click on ths email link, and 2 pages have already been written! This is one hot board!

Muw, I'm just joking, but your typing skills must be 400 wds a minute!