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Yes! It could pose a danger even after all these years! 4 57.14%
Yes! It has the makings of a "dirty bomb" and could fall into the wrong hands! 1 14.29%
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15-Sep-2004, 03:43 PM #1
Air Force takes new interest in lost bomb
Story last updated at 8:26 a.m. Saturday, August 7, 2004

Nuclear weapon lost in 1958 accident

BY TONY BARTELME
Of The Post and Courier Staff

Experts from the Air Force and other federal agencies are studying information gathered by nuclear bomb hunters in Georgia who think they may have found a hydrogen bomb the Air Force accidentally dropped off the coast near Savannah 46 years ago.

Last month, a group led by retired Col. Derek Duke of Statesboro, Ga., said it had identified a large underwater object off Tybee Beach that was emitting radioactivity. The object was in the same area that the plane's navigator said the bomb had been dropped, Duke told The Post and Courier in an earlier interview.

In the wake of Duke's report, the Air Force "thinks it's time to take a harder look at this issue," said Lt. Col. Frank Smolinksy, an Air Force spokesman.

He stressed that the Air Force remains convinced that the missing bomb is incapable of generating a nuclear explosion.

In previous interviews, Air Force officials have said the bomb did not contain a capsule of plutonium required for such a detonation.

Still, officials have acknowledged that the bomb contains highly enriched uranium and more than 400 pounds of high explosives.

Duke and others who have been studying the so-called "Tybee Bomb" for years also fear that the bomb may, in fact, contain the plutonium capsule. Duke declined to comment about the Air Force's new interest.

An Air Force B-47 dropped the 7,000-pound bomb in 1958 after it collided with a fighter.

Smolinsky said a "multidisciplinary team" is working on the case, including the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the National Nuclear Security Administration, Los Alamos National Laboratory and several other agencies.

The team will evaluate the Georgia group's data "to verify the presence of the bomb. If the bomb is located, the Air Force will then assess whether or not there is a need to remove it."

A similar team studied the issue in 2000 and 2001. At that time, officials determined that the bomb probably was still intact and that it was buried somewhere off the coast in 5 to 15 feet of mud. In those studies, officials determined the bomb was "irretrievably lost."

Smolinksy said, "we're not sure how long it will take" to assess Duke's information. "But it will be with due diligence."

If the team discovers that the Georgia bomb hunters' findings are wrong, "then we'll stand by our original position that the bomb is safest left alone."
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15-Sep-2004, 03:59 PM #2
Long-Missing H-Bomb A Risk?

WASSAW ISLAND, Ga., May 6, 2004

(AP) The 20-foot Boston Whaler bobs in the swells of Wassaw Sound off Savannah. The engines grumble as Derek Duke peers over the stern. This, he says, is the place.

The water is green and murky, and sunlight turns floating grains of sand to flecks of gold. Deeper, shifting currents churn silt, blotting the daylight. On the dark bottom, empty cans and bottles litter a seabed of fine sand and rough stones.

There seems to be nothing special out here. But beneath the ocean floor off Savannah, an aluminum cylinder lies entombed in silt. It's like an 11-foot-long bullet with a snub nose and four stubby fins. Written on it, its name: "No. 47782." Enclosed in its metal skin: 400 pounds of conventional explosives and a quantity of bomb-grade uranium.

No. 47782 is an H-bomb.

A Mark 15, Mod 0 to be exact, one of the earliest thermonuclear devices developed by the United States. This is the kind whose mushroom clouds boiled in South Pacific tests. It was designed to be 100 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb.

No. 47782 has rested off Savannah since Feb. 5, 1958.

For decades, people have gone about their lives in this city of antebellum mansions and brick-sidewalk squares with little or no thought to the bomb.

No. 47782 might well have remained a footnote to Cold War history were it not for the man on the boat and his one question: Is it a danger?

As a child growing up near Savannah, Derek Duke, now 58, heard the story: A pilot was forced to jettison an H-bomb bomb near Tybee, one of city's barrier islands, after a mid-air collision.

Perhaps that was the beginning of Duke's fascination with nuclear weapons - an interest that grew when he watched Slim Pickens ride a nuke in the movie "Dr. Strangelove." Later, he said, it was his job to ferry H-bombs to overseas bases as an Air Force pilot.

So in 1998, when he stumbled onto some old news stories about the "Tybee Bomb" while surfing the Web, Duke was predisposed to be interested.

At first, he says, he was just curious. It was an interesting bit of military history to look into during time off from his job training commercial pilots at the Atlanta airport.

He searched the Internet and local newspaper archives. He read the limited information available about the Mark 15, Mod 0. Many details, including the amount of uranium it contained, remain classified.

By 1999, his interest growing, he began contacting others who might know something about the case. He talked to residents who lived in the area. He talked to members of the team that had searched for the bomb. He wrote letters requesting unclassified documents.

Then Duke looked up the pilot.

Howard Richardson was surprised by the telephone call from Duke. It had been more years than he cared to remember since he had talked with anyone outside his circle of family and friends about the bomb.

Slowly, Richardson began to share his story - first with Duke and later with The Associated Press.

It was Feb. 5, 1958, and he was a major at the controls of a B-47 bomber - one of a dozen from the 19th Bombardment Wing taking off on a training mission from Homestead Air Force Base in Florida. All were carrying H-bombs.

At the time, it was routine for crews in training to carry transportation-configured nuclear bombs, with the detonation capsules removed to prevent a nuclear explosion, the Air Force said. The idea was simple. It gave the crews the opportunity to practice with the bomb, said Billy Mullins, associate director of the Air Force Nuclear Weapons and Counterproliferation Agency.

Before takeoff, Richardson signed a receipt verifying he was taking custody of the bomb from the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission, the agency responsible for keeping track of the country's nuclear arsenal.

The mission was to simulate dropping an H-bomb on a city in the Soviet Union and to evade Air Force fighters sent up to simulate Russian interceptors.

Over Reston, Va., which was unknowingly playing the role of the Soviet city, Richardson's navigator lined up the target on the radar screen and punched the launch button. The button activated a transmitter that recorded how close the crew came to hitting the target.

Then Richardson turned the B-47 south toward home through a screen of "enemy" fighters.

Richardson was an old hand at evading fighters. During World War II, he piloted 35 missions - two on D-Day - in a B-17 nicknamed the "Mississippi Miss" after Richardson's home state. That was 10 more missions than the "Memphis Belle," whose crew gained legendary status as the first to complete 25, he would proudly tell folks.

The B-47 wasn't much like the lumbering World War II bomber. It was easier to handle, "more like a fighter than a bomber," Richardson said. Using high altitude maneuvers and electronic counter measures, he evaded the F-86 fighters launched over Virginia to intercept him.

When he and his two-man crew crossed into North Carolina at more than 37,000 feet, they were back in friendly skies. As far as the crew was concerned, the training mission was over.

Suddenly, the B-47 shook violently. Seconds later, flames shot out of the No. 6 engine.

The B-47 had just collided in midair with one of the "enemy" fighters.

Richardson and his crew could see the No. 6 engine dangling off the wing. The wing's main support beam was broken and the horizontal and vertical stabilizers, which gave the pilot control, were damaged.

Struggling to keep the bomber under control, Richardson headed for the nearest airfield, Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah. His co-pilot, 1st Lt. Robert Lagerstrom, issued a "Mayday," telling the Hunter tower it was coming in damaged and heavy.

The news from the tower operator wasn't good. The runway was under construction. The front of it had not been smoothed out.

"I thought that if we landed short, the plane would catch the front of the runway and the bomb would shoot through the plane like a bullet through a gun barrel," Richardson said.

The Air Force's tactical doctrine listed the safety of a crew as a pilot's No. 1 priority. So, on that clear, moonlit night, Richardson turned the B-47 toward sea and dropped the bomb in the ocean. Then he limped back to a safe landing on that rough runway.

For nearly 10 weeks, Navy divers searched the shallow, murky waters near Tybee Island for the bomb. The weather was bad, the water cold, the visibility poor. On April 16, 1958, the military declared the bomb "irretrievably lost."

The bomb became one of 11 "Broken Arrows" - nuclear bombs lost during air or sea mishaps, according to U.S. military records.

Four months after Richardson's accident, the Atomic Energy Commission changed its policy, banning the use of nuclear bombs during training exercises.

As Duke was learning all of this, he turned up a copy of the Atomic Energy Commission receipt Richardson had signed. Written in ink near the top of the document was the word "simulated." That, according to the Air Force, meant the bomb, containing 400 pounds of conventional explosives and an undisclosed amount of uranium, did not have a detonation capsule. Without it, there was no risk of a nuclear explosion.

That was reassuring. And it might have been the end of the story if not for another document Duke soon acquired.

This one was a letter, written in 1966 to the chairman of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, recounting the testimony of Assistant Defense Secretary Jack Howard before a 1966 congressional committee investigating the country's missing and lost nuclear weapons.

Howard, the letter says, testified there were four complete nuclear weapons, including detonation capsules, that were missing or lost. Among them: the bomb Richardson had dropped off the coast of Georgia.

Decades later, Howard recanted his testimony after Duke gave the letter to the media and elected officials.

But which version was really true?

That's when Duke's curiosity turned to determination to find the bomb.

"Until that point, I bought the military's story," he said. "But not now. Something is just not right."

He began studying topography maps, tidal charts and weather patterns. But Duke knew he needed help navigating the waterways. In Harris Parker, he found both an expert and a partner.

The two are an unlikely pair of allies. Duke, 5-feet-8, is compact and full of nervous energy. Parker, 64, is tall and laconic, tanned and weathered by decades in the sun. He's a sometime treasure hunter, sometime movie consultant, and one of his business cards identifies him as a marine coordinator for the John Travolta movie, "The General's Daughter."

Together, Duke and Parker spent countless hours trolling Wassaw Sound, which connects the mouth of the Wilmington River to the Atlantic Ocean. They dragged Geiger counters behind their boat and brought up sand from the ocean floor to test.

Mapping every inch of their effort, they identified what they believe is a plume of radiation, although the readings are only slightly higher the sea's natural radiation level.

But the plume wasn't near Tybee Island. Rather, it was just off Wassaw Island, about 20 miles from Savannah. Perhaps the bomber crew had mistaken one landmark - an old World War II bunker - for another near Savannah when it dropped the bomb.

In August 2000, Duke gave the Howard letter to U.S. Rep. Jack Kingston, a Savannah Republican. Kingston, in turn, asked the Air Force to investigate whether a live nuclear bomb might be lurking off the Georgia coast.

On April 12, 2001, the Air Force Nuclear Weapons and Counterproliferation Agency reported that the bomb was likely buried about 5 to 15 feet in silt somewhere below the ocean floor. There is "no current or future possibility of a nuclear explosion," the report said. And if left undisturbed, the conventional explosives in the bomb posed no hazard.

During the initial search in the 1950s, Navy divers did not turn up any radiation readings.

In fact, the uranium in the bomb is of less concern for radioactivity than as a heavy metal, Mullins said. "Where you have a problem with it, is if you ingest it," he told The AP.

Recovering it - at an estimated cost of $5 million - didn't seem worth the trouble or the potential danger to Savannah's fresh water supply, he said. "As we see it, there's zero risk to anybody leaving it where it is."

Nonetheless, after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks some folks in Savannah began to worry. A town hall meeting was called to discuss the bomb and the Air Force findings. A crowd showed up. CNN broadcast the debate, which continued in the Letters to the Editor section of the local paper.

Duke stoked the flames. "If we're so worried about terrorists getting ahold of nuclear weapons, why aren't we doing anything about this," he says. "Right down there, somewhere, is the material to make a dirty bomb."

So Duke, Parker and a handful of others formed a company to look for the bomb and submitted a bid to the government to locate it. The bid - $900,000-plus - was denied.

Sitting at a table at Parker's Savannah home, Duke tips a 32-ounce disposable soda cup on its side.

"This is the capsule," he says.

Over the course of an hour, Duke painstakingly maps out the detail of his effort and his findings. It's part history lesson and part treasure hunt with a bit of conspiracy theory thrown in. He skips over or challenges any evidence that contradicts his position.

Parker, meanwhile, co-wrote a script, titled "The Tybee Bomb," a Tom Clancy-esque mystery. Duke distances himself from the script, which Parker says its just another vehicle to stir interest in recovering the bomb.

But the script, along with the creation of the company, led some to wonder about their motives.

At home in Jackson, Miss., Richardson eases onto a couch, and riffles through several expandable files of documents.

He pulls out pictures taken in 1958 of his damaged plane, a firsthand account he wrote about the accident, and an article printed in a flying magazine.

Nearby, on the floor, sits a framed copy of the bomb custody receipt.

Richardson, 82, is a big man with a gentle heart. He doesn't like to speak ill of anyone, but ...

"Derek Duke just doesn't know what he's talking about. I keep telling him he's wrong," Richardson said. "The paper says no capsule on board. I think I know what I signed for."

He has come to believe Duke and Parker are motivated more by money than by virtue. He points to the government bid and now the movie script.

"They are scaring those people in Savannah for no good reason," he said.

Richardson pauses, shakes his head and speaks softly, perhaps more to himself than anyone else.

"At this age, you think about the things you'll be remembered for. What I should be remembered for is landing that plane safely. I guess this bomb is what I'm going to be remembered for."

"If I had it to do all over again, I wouldn't have dropped it," he said. "After all this grief and pain, it just isn't worth it."

Back on the Boston Whaler, Parker and Duke check the onboard Global Positioning Satellite gear as they motor toward the spot where they believe the bomb rests.

Their efforts are at a standstill. They don't have the hundreds of thousands of dollars needed to take the search underwater. They don't have the backing of the military, the government or local elected officials.

"Does it pose a real threat? I guess we really don't know. But I think the military needs to take care of its unfinished business," Duke says. "They left this out there for us to deal with. I'd sure like for someone to know where it is, and what, if anything, it's doing to our environment."

Parker brings the boat to stop a few hundred yards from the soft, fine sand of Wassaw Island. He turns off the engine, letting small, wind-driven waves lap at the boat and push it along.

It's quiet, sedate, except for the occasional bird or dolphin breaking the surface.

"It's down there," Duke says. "Somewhere."
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Lost nuclear bomb possibly found
Device dropped in ocean off Georgia during Cold War

Monday, September 13, 2004 Posted: 10:38 PM EDT (0238 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Government experts are investigating a claim that an unarmed nuclear bomb, lost off the Georgia coast at the height of the Cold War, might have been found, an Air Force spokesman said Monday.

The hydrogen bomb was lost in the Atlantic Ocean in 1958 following a collision of a B-47 bomber and an F-86 fighter.

A group led by retired Air Force Lt. Col. Derek Duke of Statesboro, Georgia, said in July that it had found a large object underwater near Savannah that was emitting high levels of radioactivity, according to an Associated Press report.

The group said it used radiation and metal detection equipment to search an area in Wassaw Sound off Tybee Island where the bomb reportedly was dropped, the AP reported.

Air Force spokesman Lt. Col. Frank Smolinsky said Monday that it's "only prudent to completely evaluate the evidence" from the group's search.

Smolinsky said experts from the Air Force, the Department of Defense and the Department of Energy were examining the information and may decide soon to conduct their own tests with more sophisticated equipment on the scene.

Smolinsky said if the bomb were found, a decision would have to be made about whether to try to recover it or leave it where it is.

An Air Force investigation concluded in 2001 that the bomb is probably harmless if left where it is. It also said a recovery operation could set off the conventional explosives in the bomb that would put the recovery crew at risk and do serious environmental damage

The 7,600-pound, 12-foot-long thermonuclear bomb contained 400 pounds of high explosives as well as uranium.

The Air Force insists the bomb was being used for practice and did not contain the plutonium trigger needed for a nuclear explosion.

The accident took place the morning of February 5, 1958, over the coast of Georgia.

According to the 2001 Air Force investigation, a B-47 carrying a Mark 15, Mod 0, nuclear bomb on a simulated combat mission from Homestead Air Force Base in Florida collided with an F-86.

The pilot of the F-86 bailed out safely and his plane crashed. The B-47 was damaged but flyable.

The B-47 crew tried landing three times at Hunter Air Force Base in Georgia with the nuclear weapon onboard.

But because of the damage and the risk that the conventional explosives could be detonated, the crew was granted permission to jettison the nuclear bomb into the Atlantic Ocean off Savannah.

The bomb was dropped from an altitude of about 7,200 feet at an air speed of about 200 knots. The B-47 crew did not see an explosion when the bomb hit the ocean. The plane later landed safely at Hunter.

For the next nine weeks, the Air Force conducted a search of a 3-square-mile area in Wassaw Sound where the bomb was dropped. On April 16, 1958, the Air Force declared that the bomb was irretrievably lost.

Wassaw Sound was the site of the 1996 Summer Olympics yachting competition.

The Air Force investigation in 2001 estimated that the bomb landed nose first in the seabed and is now buried in 5 to 15 feet of mud.

For years the lost bomb story has prompted interest and stories in the area around Savannah.

The 2001 investigation was in response to a request in August 2000 by Republican Rep. Jack Kingston, who represents the Georgia coastal area in Congress, to reopen the case and determine if the lost bomb posed a threat.

The Air Force report, released in April 2001, said it "concurs with expert conclusions that it is in the best interest of the public and the environment to leave the bomb in its resting place and [that it] remain categorized as irretrievably lost."

The report also estimated it would take as long as five years and cost $5 million to $11 million to recover the bomb.

The United States lost 11 nuclear bombs in accidents during the Cold War that were never recovered, according to the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

An estimated 50 nuclear warheads, most of them from the former Soviet Union, still lie on the bottom of the world's oceans, according to the environmental group Greenpeace.

One of the most celebrated accidents took place over Palomares, Spain, in January 1966 when a U.S. B-52 collided with a KC-135 tanker during midair refueling and released all four of its hydrogen bombs in the ensuing explosion. Seven of the 11 crewmen aboard both planes were killed.

The high explosive igniters on two bombs detonated on impact, spreading radioactive material, including plutonium, over a wide area of the Spanish countryside. A third bomb landed relatively intact and was recovered.

The fourth bomb landed in the Mediterranean Sea, and U.S. military searchers took nearly three months to find and recover the device intact.

According to the Brookings Institution, the United States spent $182 million on the recovery effort, nuclear waste disposal and settlement claims.
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15-Sep-2004, 04:17 PM #4
They should retrieve it at all costs, even if it is deemed "safe" by experts. It is an unnatural thing to have lying at the bottom of an ocean, a potentially live nuclear bomb.

If nothing else, it would serve as a demonstration of the US commitment of keeping nuclear arms safely contained. These things have the potential to wipe all life off our planet, the least we can do is be responsible and clean up our own dirty dishes after dinner
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15-Sep-2004, 05:12 PM #5
ok....lemme get this straight....its taken nearly fifty years to locate a "large object emitting radioactivity" in the location where the pilot said he dropped a hydrogen bomb?

does that strike anybody else as just a wee bit odd?

or maybe my 12 year old is right.....when i was kid, it WAS before fire and stuff
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If they could spend the time and money to locate the remains of
John Kennedy Jr and the rest of his party I don't understand how they could justify not picking up a NUCLEAR DEVICE.
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It's about time the government stepped in and did it right!

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Scientists renew search for lost nuclear bomb
Bomber dumped H-bomb off Georgia coast 46 years ago
Wednesday, September 29, 2004 Posted: 1:00 PM EDT (1700 GMT)

SAVANNAH, Georgia (AP) -- Spurred by what appear to be unusual radiation readings offshore, the U.S. government is sending a team of 20 scientists to try to find a hydrogen bomb lost off the Georgia coast in 1958.

Scientists from the Pentagon and the National Labs met on Wednesday with Derek Duke, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who has searched for the missing 7,600-pound nuke over the past five years.

Duke has detected what he believes are unusual radiation readings in Wassaw Sound near Tybee Island.

A B-47 bomber dumped the H-bomb into the Atlantic Ocean 46 years ago after the plane collided with a fighter jet during a training flight. Navy divers searched the shallow, murky waters near Tybee Island for nearly 10 weeks before declaring the bomb irretrievably lost.

The bomb became one of 11 "Broken Arrows" -- nuclear bombs lost during air or sea mishaps, according to U.S. military records.

The Air Force contends there is no danger of a nuclear blast from the bomb off the Georgia coast, because it did not contain the plutonium capsule needed to trigger one.

Air Force Lt. Col. Frank Smolinsky said the government scientists were meeting with Duke to go over the data.

On Thursday, the team "will go to Wassaw Sound where Mr. Duke believes he knows where the bomb is located," Smolinsky said. "They will take radiation readings and samples back to the National Labs ... and see if they can confirm or not confirm the possible presence of the bomb in that location."

After being approached by Duke more than three years ago, Air Force officials decided not to renew the search for the bomb. The Air Force argued that the bomb, believed buried in 10 to 15 feet of mud, would pose a greater threat if disturbed. It contains uranium and 400 pounds of conventional explosives.

But Duke continued his search and recently said he believes he has found the weapon. That prompted the Air Force to take a second look.
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