[Mulder_Lite]

You know with all the talk of how much Kerry wants to help the poor (and that's what it is--just talk), you would think with all his millions (he is the one of the wealthiest Senators in history and would be the wealthiest President ever by far if elected) he would give something to charity. Consider this:

http://www.patriotsforbush.com/archives/000390.html



It is also interesting with all the rhetoric about Cheney and Haliburton that the man donated 8,000,000 to charity from the stock he owned in Haliburton. Yet the Moore-ons claims he went to war in Iraq so he could make money for Haliburton!

Again, "facts" always enlighten--rhetoric always distorts!

[Wino]

Who gives a Flying ****!

[linskyjack]

LOL--but Theresa give millions through the Foundation. Republicans are constanly linking Theresa and the Foundation to Kerry, why not in this instance?

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

LOL--but Theresa give millions through the Foundation. Republicans are constanly linking Theresa and the Foundation to Kerry, why not in this instance?

As the lefties have reminded us each and every time, her money is not his money. Can't have it both ways!

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by Wino

Who gives a Flying ****!

Typical!

[angelize56]

Bush gave to Charity...Clinton gave to Monica....Kennedy gave to Marilyn.....

[linskyjack]

John Gotti use to give millions to the Sisters of Cabrini.

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

John Gotti use to give millions to the Sisters of Cabrini.

I don't think its fair to compare John Gotti to Kerry!

[linskyjack]

Lol

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

LOL--but Theresa give millions through the Foundation. Republicans are constanly linking Theresa and the Foundation to Kerry, why not in this instance?

By the way, don't think these rich people create these foundations out of the goodness of their hearts (some do, but not all). There are significant tax breaks for charitable foundations. It is actually one of the best devices for social engineering ever devised. Charitable foundations are much better at carrying out the job of charity then the Federal Government is, so rather than pay millions in taxes, wealthy people can funnel much of it into charitable foundations, which is why just about every really rich person has a foundation. It makes them look like good guys by giving their money to charity instead of the IRS. It is a win-win situation. Although this is another on of the "loopholes" the liberals are always complaining about. Eliminate this one and you'll make the rich pay more in taxes for sure, but you'll get a lot less accomplished in terms of charitable work.

For example, Gates has a foundation whereby the goal is to immunize every kid in Africa, which would eliminate millions of deaths from diseases that we here in the US don't need to worry about because of immunizations. I guarantee you Gates does it for 1/10th what it would cost if the Federal Government was to run it.

Another lesson in truth for the liberal!

[Wet Chicken]

Mulder.... same ol same ol.... that is a republican web site, who did you think they were going to push?

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by Mulder_Lite

By the way, don't think these rich people create these foundations out of the goodness of their hearts (some do, but not all). There are significant tax breaks for charitable foundations. It is actually one of the best devices for social engineering ever devised. Charitable foundations are much better at carrying out the job of charity then the Federal Government is, so rather than pay millions in taxes, wealthy people can funnel much of it into charitable foundations, which is why just about every really rich person has a foundation. It makes them look like good guys by giving their money to charity instead of the IRS. It is a win-win situation. Although this is another on of the "loopholes" the liberals are always complaining about. Eliminate this one and you'll make the rich pay more in taxes for sure, but you'll get a lot less accomplished in terms of charitable work.

For example, Gates has a foundation whereby the goal is to immunize every kid in Africa, which would eliminate millions of deaths from diseases that we here in the US don't need to worry about because of immunizations. I guarantee you Gates does it for 1/10th what it would cost if the Federal Government was to run it.

Another lesson in truth for the liberal!

You missed the best part of this little dodge (which is why we should get rid of the death tax). The Foundation is required to put every member of the donors family on the Board of Directors for the Foundation and/or make them an officer (this is for eternity or until the money runs out which ever occurs first). Of course these members are very handsomely paid for their "service" ( a few hours a year) to the tune of millions and millions a year. Of course you can't expect the Board to fly commercial to N.Y.C. to attend a Board meeting so the Foundation just has to have a Lear jet or two. By the same token you really can't expect these Board members to stay at the Four Seasons (how low class) so each has his or her own brownstone/5th Ave condo/co-op at several to ten million each. All owned by the Foundation and perfectly legal. All done to avoid,legally, the death tax. Now how much must the Foundation spend each year to remain a charitable tax dodge? If you want the answer it'll cost you a $20.00 donation to TSG.

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by Wet Chicken

Mulder.... same ol same ol.... that is a republican web site, who did you think they were going to push?

Do you dispute the donations amounts? The tax returns are public record. Go find Bush, Kerry, and Cheney's returns and let's see if the information is incorrect.

Let me ask you--assuming it is correct, how to you feel about your benevolent hero, Kerry? How about Cheney's donation of $8,000,000 on Haliburton Stock? Kind of puts a damper on the "Cheney want to the war to make Haliburton rich" argument, doesn't it?

Go ahead Chicken Man--find the information to dispute it or keep your cluck to yourself!

[Wet Chicken]

Originally Posted by Mulder_Lite

Let me ask you--assuming it is correct, how to you feel about your benevolent hero, Kerry? How about Cheney's donation of $8,000,000 on Haliburton Stock?

The bottom line is that I would rather elect a MORAL man like Kerry, than a immoral one like bush! Apparently most of America doesn't think so highly of Cheney either, as is reflected in this latest poll.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by Wet Chicken

The bottom line is that I would rather elect a MORAL man like Kerry, than a immoral one like bush! Apparently most of America doesn't think so highly of Cheney either, as is reflected in this latest poll.

What the hell does that survey have to do with which person is more "moral"?

And you do realize that John Edwards is a Plaintiff's personal injury lawyer who made millions from injured people, don't you? If he is so "moral", how come he didn't cut his fees and give more money to the injured people instead of lining his pockets to the tune of millions of dollars?