[Skivvywaver]

This isn't something I made up, I wish it was. Read for yourself, get your free demo today, or tomorrow, or never in my case.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6029742/

[Mulder_Lite]

But the game isn't realistic because it has Kerry actually seeing combat action!

I wonder if they have a dog that gets launched from one boat and lands on another boat? I think that's too unrealistic for even a video game!

[angelize56]

And the dog lands in a pile of CBS memos! Pile of poop....pile of memos....same thing!

[Skivvywaver]

Medic applying bandaid to purple heart scratch should be an excellent part of the game. Now I am done. I have a D/L to attend to. I know the site and server are going swamped.

[linskyjack]

Lets talk about Iraq--let go!

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Lets talk about Iraq--let go!

This reply is not directed at you, but at all that believe as you do.

There is no "talk" about Iraq, there is only senseless whining. You have to remember that in order to win any conflict, you need to believe you can win it--that's 90% of the battle. You people are only interested in blowing everything out of proportion and making every skirmish seem like the Invasion of Normandy in its bloodshed.

If people like you anti-Bs were around in June of 1944 (well, people like you were around, but didn't say much), and carried the day, there is no way we would have defeated Hitler--not a chance in the world.

The following is an illustration of the difference between a postive thinker--a person that truly believes he can accomplish just about whatever he sets his mind to (me) compared to people who are defeated before they even get out of the starting blocks (you).

First point:

1. The decision to go to Iraq had been made and is over with. You can't change what happened. You need to look to what needs to be done in the future.

2. We cannot leave Iraq until the new government is strongly rooted and is able to deal with the insurrections that are occurring. We simply cannot--it would be unfair to the people of Iraq and it would have disastrous consequences for all future military action the US takes. Anyone that can't see that is really just plain stupid and there is no sense even having a discussion on the topic (even John Kerry realizes and has said that we cannot leave Iraq until the job is finished).

3. Babbling and whining about how there is no way we can be successful (even if it is true--and it is not) is the absolute last thing we as Americans need to be to be demonstrating to our troops or to the rest of the world.

You Moore-ons want to convince me of something I have no choice to but to not accept. In my mind, regardless of whether Bush or Kerry or Mickey Mouse is President, there is only one viable option. I can be part of anc compund the problems (like many of you are) or I can be positive, if nothing else for the few military people we have that frequent the board and reassure them that we can and will be successul. You can be sure it makes them feel good reading it and renews their spirits like a shot of adrenaline.

The great irony here is that John Kerry did the exact same thing you anti-Bs are trying to do here when he came back from VietNam. He made it impossible to win that conflict by helping to defeat America in the minds of Americans. Once that happened, we didn't have a chance regardless of what choices the leaders at the time made, right or wrong.

Learn one thing. You will NEVER convince me that we cannot be successul in Iraq because I as I said, I don't believe there is anything the people of this country cannot do if they have the will to do it. And unfortunately, I believe most Americans believe the way you anti-Bs do about our chances in Iraq because media make you anit-Bs seem like the eternal optimist! However, 1 positive person is always enough to counteract 10 or 20 negative ones. I've proved that to myself countless times in the past. So if I have to be the 1 positive voice to counteract 10 negative ones, that's what I'll do and do it gladly.

So do your country a favor--peddle your "we can't be successful in Iraq" BS somewhere else. I'm won't have any part of it!

[Stoner]

Must really hurt that the oil is soooo close and the profits so distant

[linskyjack]

Let it suffice to say that I disagree with practically everything you said in your post. I found your statement that wanting to win is 90% of the battle to be fairly outrageous. The comparison between Iraq and Germany again is ridiculous, kind of like the one where you say--hell, so we lost 400 men--that many people die in Detroit every year! As far as the Iraqi people go, where are they? Where are those millions of every day citizens who think that the United States is their savior? Have we seen one demonsration against the insurgency? Do we not hear every day about some outrageous statement by a supposidely moderate Iraqi leader? For instance, the head of the a major Union of Islamic Mullahs told his followers today to stop killing Iraqi citizens, concentrate on the invaders (that US--no pun intended).

You can paint it any way you want, but when Senators Hagel and Luger say that Iraq is a brewing disaster because of adminisration bungling, when an intelligence report that the CIA wrote for the president pretty much says that Iraq can't be pacified---well even you Mulder have to admit that this president does not deserve a second term.

[700mb80min]

a quote from the game description :

Kerry beached his swift boat on the banks of the Mekong and chased down the enemy on foot.

.....what a guy , you americans are so lucky !

[Stoner]

But...but .....but.......linskyjack


'what's the harm in a little profit?'

[Skivvywaver]

Originally Posted by 700mb80min

a quote from the game description :

Kerry beached his swift boat on the banks of the Mekong and chased down the enemy on foot.

.....what a guy , you americans are so lucky !

Yeah, and we had John Wayne too.

[Abdhul]

Originally Posted by Skivvywaver

Yeah, and we had John Wayne too.

Uhh... what was the matter with John Wayne - I always thought he was pretty cool. Comparing him to Kerry just isn't fair!

Also let me just say, thank you Mulder, I wish there were more who thought like you - although you are a little extreme in some of the points you brought up...

Question:
Was Kerry's third purple heart for the wound he recieved from the needle of his Botox injection?

[linskyjack]

Another substanitive anti-Kerry post.

[Abdhul]

While Bush isn't the perfect answer, he is the best one we've got.
So yes, I guess that does make me anti-Kerry.
Good call.

[Mulder_Lite]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Let it suffice to say that I disagree with practically everything you said in your post. I found your statement that wanting to win is 90% of the battle to be fairly outrageous. The comparison between Iraq and Germany again is ridiculous, kind of like the one where you say--hell, so we lost 400 men--that many people die in Detroit every year! As far as the Iraqi people go, where are they? Where are those millions of every day citizens who think that the United States is their savior? Have we seen one demonsration against the insurgency? Do we not hear every day about some outrageous statement by a supposidely moderate Iraqi leader? For instance, the head of the a major Union of Islamic Mullahs told his followers today to stop killing Iraqi citizens, concentrate on the invaders (that US--no pun intended).

You can paint it any way you want, but when Senators Hagel and Luger say that Iraq is a brewing disaster because of adminisration bungling, when an intelligence report that the CIA wrote for the president pretty much says that Iraq can't be pacified---well even you Mulder have to admit that this president does not deserve a second term.

Got nothing to do with Bush. Has to do with a job needing to get done. Bush can't do it--the military has to do it. I say they can and they will do it. You say they can't. Just keep your mouth shut and hope your wrong. That's the best way to serve your country.