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12-Oct-2004, 08:49 PM #1
Liberals--God Love'm--Somebody Should
Nothing is sacred to liberals
JIM WOOTEN

12 October 2004
The Atlanta Journal - Constitution
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The national Democratic Party, its voice now distilled to the undistinguished liberalism and anti-war cynicism of John Kerry, is the outgrowth of decades of the radical assault on American institutions.
The left that now dominates the national Democratic Party evolved from the campus radicalism of the '60s, when all institutions perceived as inhibiting individualism came under assault --- universities, the church, the family, capitalism, the military and the political system. The assault came without any responsibility for preservation of social order or for offering workable alternatives.
The result of this assault on --- to choose one institution --- religion is, ironically, that many churches and some denominations have become more distilled in their beliefs, more conservative.

While I'm not Catholic, I watch the attacks on papal authority on moral issues and the gleeful assertions of hypocrisy in the priesthood, and sense among many of its critics shrillness and a cavalier unconcern about the institution's survival. It's not the pope or the cardinals who count; it's me. The church will survive, of course, and perhaps emerge stronger.
The church's problems occur in an age where hostility and cynicism have become defining features of the nation's bend-to-me cultural wars. Recent decades have brought rebellion against any institution that enshrines any rigid moral or religious code premised on a certainty about right and wrong or about good and evil.
The high religion of much of the left today is tolerance and relativism. The only fixed truth is that we should never be judgmental, that we should, for example, look at all lifestyle choices as equally meritorious. And if we don't, it's because we are intolerant, and if we are intolerant, it's because we are mean-spirited, insensitive or don't personally know anybody from the group.
For decades, Southern Baptists have been engaged in intense debate about core beliefs. Just as the split within the Southern Baptist Convention over the inerrancy of the Bible distilled the denomination's conservatism and prompted the departure of some of the more moderate churches and believers, Jimmy Carter among them, the doctrine of the national Democratic Party has been distilled by a split as well.
Moderates and conservatives --- like the Sam Nunn Southerners who are disappearing from the U.S. House and Senate, or like U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), who was thrashed in this year's primaries --- have ceased to be diluents. The resulting strain of liberalism is, therefore, purer and more toxic.
It is the self-absorbed '60s liberalism that manifests itself in the demand of an individual sitting in a 50,000-seat football stadium that no prayer be allowed, despite the preferences of others, because he feels "uncomfortable."
It is the shakedown liberalism around which the constituencies of the Democratic Party have coalesced: the trial lawyers, the grievance-bearers and the modern civil rights hustlers.
And it is, most assuredly, the remnants of the anti-war left who see America as an imperialist whose lust for domination and destructiveness has to be held in check by external forces, the United Nations and the Kyoto treaty among them. The only quagmires the left would invite on the U.S. military are those launched for humanitarian relief, such as Sudan.
And it is the controlling liberalism of those who distrust the political process and believe that power should be exercised from the bench and from the bureaucracy because, left to their own instincts and preferences, the hoi polloi would legislate with "intolerance" and against their own best interests.
Who constitutes the left? Not most rank-and-file Democrats, though they would be sympathetic. It is, by and large, a group spawned by '60s radicalism who gravitated to fields where they could indulge their passions --- academia, journalism, the law, politics, the bureaucracy and especially regulatory agencies such as the Environmental Protection Agency, and advocacy.
That is the intellectual core of John Kerry's Democratic Party.


Jim Wooten is associate editorial page editor. His column runs Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays.
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The Democrats laughed. "I was talking about the minimum wage," Pelosi said. "The American people sent a message this past election, and that message was that they wanted their government to pretend there is no terrorist problem and instead focus on inane crap and entitlements... and who better to do that than we Democrats?"
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12-Oct-2004, 08:52 PM #2
What Democrats Still Don't Get
Laura Ingraham (townhall.com)

Top Democrats advising the Kerry campaign are scratching their heads raw this week, trying to figure out why John Kerry--even with solid debate performances under his belt and continuing violence in Iraq--still is still having such a hard time convincing voters he would be a more effective commander-in-chief than George Bush. But the answer is
actually fairly simple. Kerry--like all doves--is unpersuasive on national security issues because he doesn't realize certain basic truths that have guided American policy for decades. These are:

1. The world is a dangerous place, filled with deadly people. Not just people who are misunderstood. Not just people who are poor. Not just people who have different "values." After 3,000 of our fellow citizens were incinerated on September 11th by Islamist mass murderers, John Kerry can still tell the New York Times Magazine this week that "[w]e have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance." How amazingly irresponsible and stunningly stupid. Deadly people with the means and commitment to inflict large casualties on U.S. citizens will never just be nuisances. President Bush knows this. The American people know it. American liberals don't.

2. Most nations in the world look out for themselves. We cringe at the idea of a 'global test' because we know who's going to be grading the test. We know the anti-Americanism that exists around the world. We know the incompetence and corruption that dominates the UN. We know that leaders like Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder are determined to take any opportunity to hinder the United States. We know that international media organizations, from the BBC to Al-Jazeera, are doing everything they can to whip up even more hostility toward this country. In short, we know that you would have a better chance at a fair hearing in an Olympic figure-skating competition than you would of getting a fair grade on a 'global test.'" George Bush knows this. The American people know this. American liberals don't.

3. America is not the world's problem--America is the world's solution. Tying down the United States--through international treaties like Kyoto or the International Criminal Court, or through imposing a "global test" on our ability to respond to problems-will not make the world safer. It will make the world less safe. Limiting U.S. power will not make the world better. It will lead to more pain, more death, more suffering. The United States is the only great nation in the world whose people are willing to make real sacrifices of blood and treasure for world peace. If we don't do it, no one will. President Bush knows this. The American people know it. American liberals don't.

American liberals are making the same mistake in the war on terror that they made during the Cold War. They trust anti-American voices around the world more than they trust the American people. During the second debate, John Kerry was still touting UN sanctions as a viable way to contain Saddam, despite everything we have already learned about the oil for food pay-offs to foreign interests (in both France and Russia). Liberals believe that our responsibilities can be shoved onto the backs of other countries that have made it abundantly clear have no intention of helping us. (Although even Kerry had to admit last week that France and Germany will not send troops to Iraq even if he wins on November 2.) They believe in a moral equivalence between the United States and its adversaries. They were wrong in the 1980's, and they are wrong today. That is why Kerry cannot articulate a credible plan to win the war on terrorism. That is why Edwards looked and sounded so vague during his debate. Until American liberals overcome this fear of the American people --until they learn to trust us more than they trust their friends in Europe--they will flip, flop and flounder in their effort to take back the White House.
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The Democrats laughed. "I was talking about the minimum wage," Pelosi said. "The American people sent a message this past election, and that message was that they wanted their government to pretend there is no terrorist problem and instead focus on inane crap and entitlements... and who better to do that than we Democrats?"
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12-Oct-2004, 09:15 PM #3
blah, blah, blah. You been going to the eggplant school of debate? Cut/paste opinion pieces show a lack of effort.
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12-Oct-2004, 09:32 PM #4
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blah, blah, blah. You been going to the eggplant school of debate? Cut/paste opinion pieces show a lack of effort.
Would that be the old liberal "attack" the messenger not the message ploy?
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Would that be the old liberal "attack" the messenger not the message ploy
I don't need to read some one elses opinion on current events to form my own.
Opinions aren't news or even fact. You guys love that kill the messenger bit. There is no message. Just the same us against them crap.
Think for yourself. Learn something new.
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12-Oct-2004, 09:49 PM #6
I could be wrong, but I don't think God loves 'em!
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12-Oct-2004, 10:03 PM #7
You guys need to start cutting and pasting the thoughts of more moderate thoughtful republicans. Also, consider generating some original ideas yourselves.
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12-Oct-2004, 10:03 PM #8
Yea well my God's gonna beat the snot outta yours.
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12-Oct-2004, 10:07 PM #9
Do you believe in god?....no.....dead.

Do you believe in god?....yes....Do you believe in my god?...no.....dead.
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12-Oct-2004, 10:08 PM #10
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Yea well my God's gonna beat the snot outta yours.
Based on past dealings, I'm guessing your "God" is the federal government, which is the supreme being to most liberals.
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12-Oct-2004, 10:34 PM #11
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Here's your challange then Mulder. Find one post of mine where I advocate hirer taxes. Any.
Chances are you benifit far more from federal tax dollars than I do.
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12-Oct-2004, 10:41 PM #12
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I don't need to read some one elses opinion on current events to form my own.
Opinions aren't news or even fact. You guys love that kill the messenger bit. There is no message. Just the same us against them crap.
Think for yourself. Learn something new.
Just can't get pass that attack the messenger ploy can you? When are you going to respond to the "opinions" expressed in the articles or are you just going to keep attacking me? So why don't you try something new and tell us in your own brilliant style why what they wrote is incorrect. Or haven't you formed an opinion on that yet? I mean you have been thinking for yourself and all haven't you?
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The Democrats laughed. "I was talking about the minimum wage," Pelosi said. "The American people sent a message this past election, and that message was that they wanted their government to pretend there is no terrorist problem and instead focus on inane crap and entitlements... and who better to do that than we Democrats?"
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12-Oct-2004, 10:44 PM #14
Everyone who doesn't want GWBush to continue to destroy our country is a liberal---That merely shows that the right wing has taken control of the Republican Party and there is no room for any diversity whatsoever.
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Everyone who doesn't want GWBush to continue to destroy our country is a liberal---That merely shows that the right wing has taken control of the Republican Party and there is no room for any diversity whatsoever.
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