Flu Vaccine Shortage - Page 4

Wino · 18-Oct-2004, 05:13 PM **#46**

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I thought you were for limiting tax write offs for huge corporations?

You must have me confused with someone else - never have said any such thing. This particular case is nothing exceptional - when you write off inventory and losses occur, they are deducted from the gross income - now if they OVERSTATED their losses, that would be another matter.

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As to the improvements, without seeing what the requirements were, you really can't speculate on that. I have had inspecters come in and want one bolt on a sign marquee moved an 8th of an inch, and they are actually measuring

Capital equipment expense can be depreciated over time, there are many tax breaks to encourage upgrading equipment, so yes, I would speculate on this. Too bad our steel mills didn't take more advantage of this.

As for having you move a sign 1/8" - I can understand that! Hell, I would bring rat droppings with me and plant in your facility just to get a chance to see you again - this is a no brainer, my dear!!

Still liked your reasoning better as a brunette!

Mulderator · 18-Oct-2004, 05:17 PM **#47**

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Originally Posted by Wino

Capital equipment expense can be depreciated over time, there are many tax breaks to encourage upgrading equipment, so yes, I would speculate on this.

Don't understand what this has to do with the issue. What are the "many tax breaks" to encourage upgrading equipment?

**AcaCandy** · 18-Oct-2004, 05:18 PM **#48**

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Originally Posted by Wino

You must have me confused with someone else - never have said any such thing. This particular case is nothing exceptional - when you write off inventory and losses occur, they are deducted from the gross income - now if they OVERSTATED their losses, that would be another matter.

Lol, sorry then, not sure who I had you confused with............

So, up with tax breaks

DNeurococo · 18-Oct-2004, 05:20 PM **#49**

Well, I was going to write that many of you are missing the point, but Linskyjack summed it up pretty neatly in post #33.

Of course corporations will not want to manufacture life saving vaccines if they can make more money selling erection drugs. Which is exactly why Capitalism fails us!

The "market" doesn't produce products that are needed - - only products that are perceived (rightly or wrongly) by our corporate masters to be profitable. And it only provides those products to those who can afford to buy them - - the rest can get screwed.

I say that is inhuman and we have to break out of the mind-set that we should only have the things that please the corporations.

As to a government system not working . . .

That is pure B.S.! It works just fine in Canada. Which is why Bush was saying that he hoped he could get some help from that source. I think it is shameful that the richest country on earth has to go begging hat in hand to Canada.

Why not establish a reasonable and humane system to see that all Americans get decent care? And screw what the corporations think about it!

But you guys are still stuck in the mind-set that says "well, we can't do that because the corporations won't like it!"

Have the guts to tell the corporations to F--- off for once in your life! People's lives are more important!

**AcaCandy** · 18-Oct-2004, 05:23 PM **#50**

I think it's a shame that in this instance, importing drugs from Canada is going to be ok

And everything else isn't.

Oh, from Bloomberg:

Flu causes about 36,000 U.S. deaths a year...........how many of those persons DID get a flu shot, compared to those who didn't? Any statistics out there...........

Infidel_Kastro · 18-Oct-2004, 05:25 PM **#51**

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Originally Posted by AcaCandy

I think it's a shame that in this instance, importing drugs from Canada is going to be ok

And everything else isn't.

Don't count on that for too long Candy. The moment the US allows Canadian drug imports, I think you will see Canada enact legislation banning the practice b/c drug manufacturers will limit their supply.

Mulderator · 18-Oct-2004, 05:25 PM **#52**

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Originally Posted by DNeurococo

Well, I was going to write that many of you are missing the point, but Linskyjack summed it up pretty neatly in post #33.

Of course corporations will not want to manufacture life saving vaccines if they can make more money selling erection drugs. Which is exactly why Capitalism fails us!

Yep--that pretty much sums up the liberal viewpoint. Capitalism is a failure!

Wino · 18-Oct-2004, 05:26 PM **#53**

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Originally Posted by Mulder

Don't understand what this has to do with the issue........

Why does that not surprise me.

Mulderator · 18-Oct-2004, 05:28 PM **#54**

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Originally Posted by Wino

Why does that not surprise me.

Perhaps you would be so kind as explain it to me?

**LANMaster** · 18-Oct-2004, 05:35 PM **#55**

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Originally Posted by Mulder

Yep--that pretty much sums up the liberal viewpoint. Capitalism is a failure!

.... and national Socialism must be the answer .... and since we're on that road anyway, Communism wasn't so terrible.
EVERYBODY has health insurance under Communism, don't they?.

Rockn · 18-Oct-2004, 05:37 PM **#56**

Flu shots are another unnecessary drug rammed down the gullible publics throat. Too bad the sheeple that keep getting them will never have an active immune system of their own, just one supplied by the drug companies.

How exactly is a flu shot a "life saving". There hasn't been a flu pandemic in since 1918 and at best a flu shot is a "best guess" as to what is coming down the pike.

Quit turning everything into a political conspiracy. Chiron is a British pharmaceutical comapany.

alex_holker · 18-Oct-2004, 05:37 PM **#57**

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Originally Posted by DNeurococo

...And screw what the corporations think about it!

But you guys are still stuck in the mind-set that says "well, we can't do that because the corporations won't like it!"

Have the guts to tell the corporations to F--- off for once in your life! People's lives are more important!

How would you plan to make the corporations do what you want?

Alex