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29-Oct-2004, 07:13 PM #1
No one's talking about Usama
And his interesting tape? I thought for sure the lefties would be all over this. But of course, hard to do that when Usama pretty much endorsed Kerry.
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29-Oct-2004, 07:18 PM #2
There was a thread started:

http://forums.techguy.org/t290260.html

And I agree that Bin Laden was clear in his support for Kerry. I'm sure Hussein would vote for his as well. But then, as I said in another thread, there was an actual headline that stated "Gore Would Have Won If Felons Could Vote" or something to the effect. You gotta be proud if you're a Dem to have the support of the Hussein, Bin Laden, and the Felons of America!
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29-Oct-2004, 07:24 PM #3
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How The Democrats Plan To Win In 2004

by Phyllis Schlafly Jan. 28, 2004

Despite George W. Bush's high poll numbers, the Democrats think they have the key to winning the 2004 elections. Get the votes of convicted felons. Don't laugh; the Democrats are deadly serious.
The nation's four million convicted felons could be enough to swing next November's election. Surveys show that the overwhelming majority would vote Democratic if they could, so felons are a voting bloc the Democrats are itching to harvest.

In addition to providing the magic bullet to elect their candidates in November, this issue reprises all the sour-grapes whining by the Democrats about Bush winning Florida in 2000. The Democrats know that if felons had been allowed to vote in Florida, Al Gore would have won Florida and be president today.

The laws of forty-eight states place restrictions on the ability of convicted felons to vote. State laws vary widely in imposing restrictions.

State laws may distinguish between those who are now behind bars and those who have been released, or whether they are repeat offenders, or whether they are violent or nonviolent offenders, or whether they are parolees or probationers. Maine and Vermont allow convicts to vote even if they are still in prison.

Allowing felons to vote is highly unpopular with the American people, but the laws are amended from time to time. Since 1996, nine states have repealed a few of their voting barriers for convicted felons, while three states made their laws tougher.

These changes don't appear to have anything to do with partisanship or geography. The states easing their bans were Alabama, Maryland, Virginia, Connecticut, Delaware, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas and Wyoming, while the states that toughened their policies were Massachusetts (by constitutional amendment), Utah and Kansas.

The Democrats haven't a chance for wholesale repeal of these laws. So the Democrats are doing what liberals always do: they line up the American Civil Liberties Union and other left-wing lawyers and then seek out activist judges to issue rulings that elected legislators will not make.

The Democrats are using a study made by two sociologists, one at the University of Minnesota and the other at Northwestern University, who suggest that, since 1978, seven U.S. Senate races plus the 2000 presidential election would have turned out differently if felons had been allowed to vote. The professors estimate that Florida felons would have given Al Gore an additional 60,000 votes, more than enough to wipe out Bush's narrow margin of victory.

To try to give convicted felons the franchise, the Democrats are playing the race card, asserting that state laws have a "disparate impact" on blacks and Hispanics and therefore violate equal-protection guarantees. The laws of course are color-blind, and furthermore, it is no more discriminatory to deny felons their franchise than to deny them certain categories of employment, child custody, or gun ownership.

Lawsuits have been filed to overturn the laws that bar felons from voting in Florida, New York, New Jersey, and Washington State.

Florida's law permits felons to regain their voting rights by executive clemency, and Florida's department of corrections has agreed to assist felons navigate the restoration process. Officials estimate that 130,000 Florida felons will soon be empowered to vote, but the Democrats are still going forward with their lawsuit.

The Eleventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in Atlanta by 2-1 reversed a District Court ruling in December and ordered a trial on the race allegations in Florida even though the plaintiffs presented no evidence of any racial animus. The Circuit Court decision was written by one of Clinton's most controversial nominees, Judge Rosemary Barkett.

The dissenting opinion in the Eleventh Circuit case pointed out that the 14th Amendment, Section 2, "explicitly allows states to disenfranchise convicted felons." Furthermore, the dissent explained, in the time period when Florida adopted the rule against voting by felons, no "disparate impact" on minorities existed, so there could not have been any bias in the adoption of the rule.

A U.S. District Court in Spokane dismissed a case brought by prison inmates, but the liberal Ninth Circuit sent Farrakhan v. State of Washington back for a trial. The felons want the law overturned because blacks are 37 percent of the felons denied the franchise.

New Jersey allows felons to vote after they complete their incarceration, parole or probation, but that doesn't please the Democrats. Ten ex-convicts (including a convicted killer) are suing to void the state law, because 81 percent of the prison population, 75 percent of parolees, and 52 percent of probationers are blacks or Hispanics.

These plaintiffs are backed by the Constitutional Litigation Clinic at Rutgers Law School, the ACLU, the New Jersey State NAACP, and the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey.

The U.S. Constitution reserves the matter of voting regulations to state legislatures and specifically authorizes the disenfranchisement of felons. We should not permit activist judges to change the laws.
Who would have guessed convicted felons would be Democrats?
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29-Oct-2004, 07:29 PM #4
thanks for giving me the link. For some reason, some posts are showing up and some aren't. It took me two refreshes just to see this post again.....wierd!
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29-Oct-2004, 07:37 PM #5
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thanks for giving me the link. For some reason, some posts are showing up and some aren't. It took me two refreshes just to see this post again.....wierd!
Clear your cookies and temporary files. That's usually what causes problems like that.
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29-Oct-2004, 07:53 PM #6
Phyllis Schafly, now there is a reliable source. Mulder you have been brainwashed by the RADICAL right wing press. You are the unfortunate result of too many hours of talk radio and too many columns by great journalists like Phyllis Schafly. After the election, I will work with some others to deprogram you.
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29-Oct-2004, 08:07 PM #7
Jack
You all seem to believe anything this guy says!

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29-Oct-2004, 08:09 PM #8
Funny thing Davey is that I despise the man--always have. Whenever he appears on TV or the radio I turn the channel.
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29-Oct-2004, 08:11 PM #9
There are no many things to say about Ussama except that half of his brain is fried !
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29-Oct-2004, 08:18 PM #10
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Funny thing Davey is that I despise the man--always have. Whenever he appears on TV or the radio I turn the channel.
Well that is good to hear since I feel the same way and wished many times the ATT slogan of "Reach out and touch someone" was real!

Slime balls and mud slingers are on both sides but some float to the top!

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29-Oct-2004, 08:18 PM #11
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Phyllis Schafly, now there is a reliable source. Mulder you have been brainwashed by the RADICAL right wing press. You are the unfortunate result of too many hours of talk radio and too many columns by great journalists like Phyllis Schafly. After the election, I will work with some others to deprogram you.
Translation: He never believes anything that contradicts his neo-liberal leftist ranting and delusions.
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29-Oct-2004, 08:19 PM #12
Gbrumb---what's a neo-liberal.
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Gbrumb---what's a neo-liberal.
You.
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29-Oct-2004, 08:21 PM #14
Okay--so just call me a liberal because you have no idea what a neo-liberal is. Stop making up stuff. Its unbecoming!
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29-Oct-2004, 08:24 PM #15
Neo means new or recent. I'm surprised you don't know that English professor.
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