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01-Nov-2004, 03:38 PM #1
What are you thinking?
For those of you who have Vote for Kerry tee shirt or a sign on your car or signs in you yard. I want to go up to them say with all do respect what are you thinking ?
After listening to Kerry talk and understanding where we are in the world which I guees they don't understand where we are in the world. What are you thinking ?? Why don't just be honest and put a sign up that say's Anybody But Bush ? That would be more honest, and that's the true reason you want a socialist like Kerry to win, it's because you hate George Bush !!

If the only thing I knew about George Bush was what I learned from ABC, NBC, CBS,CNN,MSNBC,MTV, The New York and the Washington Post I probably hate him too! By this time after 4 years I would be convinced that this man is the biggest failure ever!

Don't get sucked in by the main stream medias lies and have truths !! Think for yourself !! Honestly, George Bush is the right man for the job !
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01-Nov-2004, 03:43 PM #2
after reading that post I am looking at the members viewing this board and can't help but hum the "Jaws" theme.
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01-Nov-2004, 03:46 PM #3
I am thinking...that I'm proud to be...
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01-Nov-2004, 03:46 PM #4
Gotta vote for someone!

deh: Humming along with you......
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01-Nov-2004, 03:50 PM #5
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Gotta vote for someone!

deh: Humming along with you......
Of course they could "swim right past it". But I will be surprised if this particular liberal bait is resisted.
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01-Nov-2004, 03:53 PM #6
Too late....the live bait has been dangled....expect quite a catch tonight!
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01-Nov-2004, 04:11 PM #7
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01-Nov-2004, 04:13 PM #8
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Too late, they are taking the bait.
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01-Nov-2004, 08:17 PM #9
I don't want four more years of Cheney as president. Oops, did I say Cheney? I meant Bush. We need change. Vote Kerry.
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01-Nov-2004, 09:19 PM #10
Folks know what Liberal Media Bias is. Even those who deny it have to know what the rest of us are talking about. Anybody can read it between the lines, see it on CBS (also ABC and NBC), hear it on NPR, and almost feel it, it's so thick at times. Like an oil slick over the news, L.M.B. permeates American journalism's elite.

But defining Liberal Media Bias isn't easy. Because its very purpose is to be slippery, hard to pin down, indefinable. At its most effective, L.M.B. isn't even noticeable. It's supposed to come naturally, even automatically. Indeed, that's the object of the game: to present opinion as news, bias as fact, so smoothly that nobody is aware of the subtle switch.

As with George Orwell's newspeak, the function of L.M.B. isn't just to condition thought; it's to make any other thoughts unthinkable. Or at least unfashionable.

L.M.B. may be hard to pinpoint but, as a justice of the United States Supreme Court once said about pornography, you know it when you see it. Or hear it. Or read it. At least you should if you've got the slightest ear for language. It can even be a kind of spectator sport. Sometimes you almost want to cheer, its sleights of mind are executed so smoothly at times.

At other times, you just groan. I take the precaution, on hearing the first groaner on an NPR newscast, of switching to the classical music station. I owe Linda Wertheimer alone a debt of immense gratitude for guiding me to some of the most beautiful symphonies in the Western canon.

But although evidence of Liberal Media Bias abounds, there's never been any proof that it's part of a conscious pattern, a deliberate decision, something ordered from above. Till now.

Because now, thanks to some public-spirited leaker at ABC, we have the full text of an internal memo from its political director, Mark Halperin, to his minions. It's dated Friday, Oct. 8, 2004, and it makes perfectly clear whose side ABC "News" is going to be on in this presidential election:

It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns - and our responsibilities become quite grave.

I do not want to set off (an) endless colloquy that none of us have time for today - nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.

The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.

Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.

We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that.

I'm sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.

It's up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.

To summarize: Yes, our candidate may falsify now and then, but the other guy's falsity is at the center of his campaign. This memo might as well be a declaration of political war on ABC's part. It's what every true believer thinks in the heat of an election season. But it's unusual for a supposed unbiased newsman to think so. Or rather say so. In writing.

Liberal Media Bias isn't just a feeling anymore; it's a documented plan. Case closed. With a full confession.

And if you honestly can't hear the prejudice in ABC's memo, try switching the names of the candidates around and it'll come through loud and clear. Unless, of course, you really do believe one presidential candidate is basically a good guy and the other is evil personified.

The bias behind much of the news Americans are fed isn't exactly a surprise. But at least when you're listening to right-wing talk radio, you know you're listening to right-wing talk radio. And when you're watching Fox News, you can be confident it's fair and balanced in favor of the right.

It's the pretense of objectivity at the old established networks that offends, or should. Now it lies shattered.

What's surprising about this memo isn't ABC's Liberal Media Bias, but that someone at the top would be dumb enough to put it in writing.

How can anybody take ABC's election coverage seriously after this? This memo makes even CBS' fake-but-accurate coverage, phony documents and all, sound semi-honest. Once again, between leakers and bloggers, The Old Media has been unmasked. The proof is in the memo.
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01-Nov-2004, 09:24 PM #11
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Too late, they are taking the bait.
But Wino claims he isn't liberal. Of course, when he opens his mouth and you see the rows of teeth, you just gotta hum that jaws theme!
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01-Nov-2004, 09:27 PM #12
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Too late, they are taking the bait.
Of course, you know Mulder is the king of baiting liberals. I've been doing it here for years and they never fail to swallow the bait. I'm sure I've bagged waaaaaaaaaaaaaay over my limit of liberals, but then, as I said in another thread--they are like cockroaches--they seem to multiply exponentially. I don't think we have to worry about over hunting the population!
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01-Nov-2004, 09:48 PM #13
No Intelligent Person Would Vote For Kerry
No intelligent person could possibly vote for John Kerry.

Certainly no one who is informed. Senator Kerry has shown himself to be a self-absorbed opportunist. Let’s look at his record:




Abandoned his comrades after only a 4 month tour in Viet Nam

Disgraced the uniform after returning home

Met with the enemy in Paris during the war

Voted for nuclear freeze in the face of Soviet aggression

Voted against every weapons system we are currently using against the terrorists

Has insulted our most loyal allies

Changed position on every significant campaign issue




Yet, newspaper editors country-wide have endorsed this treasonous charlatan. The main stream media has given him a pass on every issue while conversely, relentlessly attacking President Bush. Why? Are they stupid? Could they not see the plain facts? Or are they endorsing a philosophy?


I think these people who are endorsing Kerry, don’t like him or don’t care about him. They just want a leftist to be president. They are afraid of being rendered powerless by the unenlightened masses.



It’s bad enough they’ve lost the House of Representatives and the Senate, but now, the White House seems unreachable. They are frantic to have their guy win. Even if it’s Kerry.
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01-Nov-2004, 10:02 PM #14
Liberalism is Socialism
And Socialism is one degree seperated from Communism - looking for the right person and right event to bring a nationalist movement into being and a dictator into power...

Is that what you people want ??? Do you hate George Bush that much that you would be willing to sacrifice this country to a socialist liberal person ? One world government here we come ! WOW ! It's boggles the mind ! If you truley think John Kerry is a better man for the job than George Bush then you have an IQ no higher than a toaster !
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01-Nov-2004, 10:18 PM #15
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And Socialism is one degree seperated from Communism - looking for the right person and right event to bring a nationalist movement into being and a dictator into power...

Is that what you people want ??? Do you hate George Bush that much that you would be willing to sacrifice this country to a socialist liberal person ? One world government here we come ! WOW ! It's boggles the mind ! If you truley think John Kerry is a better man for the job than George Bush then you have an IQ no higher than a toaster !
Come on--I give bassetman and Wino the IQ of at least two toasters (four total)!
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