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29-Nov-2004, 02:49 PM #1
Can You Tell me how to get...how to get to Jihad Street ?
Palestinian 'Sesame Street' Urges AK-47 Massacre

In a recent episode of the Palestinian version of "Sesame Street," a furry chick character threatens to get an AK-47 and massacre people who have torn down his olive trees, a common complaint by Palestinians against Israeli Defense Forces in the region.


In a scene rebroadcast Saturday by the Fox News Channel, a little girl asks the talking chick, "What would you do if someone cut down your olive tree?"


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"I'll fight them and make a big riot," the chick replies. "I'll call the whole world. I'll bring AK-47 assault rifles and commit a massacre in front of my house."

Itamar Marcus, spokesman for the Israeli group Palestinian Media Watch, says the "Sesame Street"-style broadcast was "striking because of the age group that was targeted with this message of a little Muslim girl who is going to run out with an assault rifle and create a massacre."

"This is a powerful message for children of that age," he added.

Radwan Abu Ayyash, who runs Palestinian TV, initially defended the broadcast, telling Fox, "The cause of the segment is the occupation."

After Fox drew his attention to the AK-47 comment, however, Ayyash canceled the program.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...8/101803.shtml
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29-Nov-2004, 04:23 PM #2
Just bring up to hate and you have a whole generation of Jihadists making any peace impossible
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29-Nov-2004, 05:00 PM #3
In a related item, saw a news report that in a country that is supposedly more modern and civil than others in its region, that DVD's were released to target youngsters with the subject that to die and to kill others of different faiths is a wonderful thing to do for your religion...

The country, Turkey.

As mentioned saw this on news this past week, but haven't had chance to verify this via any other outlet today - anyone else see or have info on this DVD?
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29-Nov-2004, 05:29 PM #4
Hi Fat Tone.

What is even sicker than war between 2 nations is the teaching of children to hate.
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29-Nov-2004, 08:51 PM #5
This reminds me of the show entitled the Protocols of Zion, sponsered by the Egyptian Government. It essentially takes a debunked mythology of anti-semitism and adapts it for a national audience. The idea here is to keep the masses obessed with Jews so that they dont threaten the ruling elite--in this case Mubarak and his corrupt government. Hey, maybe Mubarak is better then a Ayatollah--who knows.
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01-Dec-2004, 09:46 AM #6
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Hi Fat Tone.

What is even sicker than war between 2 nations is the teaching of children to hate.


Not sure....but I don't think this kind of thing is happening in Israel is it ?
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01-Dec-2004, 10:04 AM #7
Fat Tone, it probably is. Keyword being probably.
It's a sad situation, and unfortunatly both sides are not trying to make their best to solve the peace solution.
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01-Dec-2004, 04:30 PM #8
There is no doubt that in the middle east they are brainwashing the children. From cartoons to nursery rhymes to dvd and rap songs with actual videos of jihad. Its becoming 'HIP' to be a jihadist there. Not only the middle east though....because there was a video that was coming out of Britain too called the dirty "Dirty Kuffar" it was done up like a video you would see on MTV. Members of the band, Soul Salah Crew, it seems, appear as masked Muslim warriors, standing in front of the camera, moving to the music with a Quran in one hand and a gun in the other. Interspersed with that are shocking images, such as a Russian soldier getting shot repeatedly by a Chechen rebel with a machine gun and a clearly doctored CNN news piece that ostensibly shows U.S. soldiers killing an innocent Iraqi civilian.

Also there were summer camps in the USA. They were called jihad camps but after 911 they changed the names to "a few good men"






Also Online videos shows children training for jihad http://intelwire.egoplex.com/2004_10_13_exclusives.html

Hatred from the craddle http://www.operationsick.com/videos.asp
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03-Dec-2004, 03:00 PM #9
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Fat Tone, it probably is. Keyword being probably.
It's a sad situation, and unfortunatly both sides are not trying to make their best to solve the peace solution.

Well, one of the reasons that I would find it hard to believe that schools were indoctrinating young Israeli's, is because there is nothing in the Jewish religion that calls any other religion pigs, and calls for either their submission or violence. Muslims do have this. Unfortunately, these kids get this from day one. Has anybody seen Death In Gaza on HBO ?
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03-Dec-2004, 03:03 PM #10
Actually, if you do a side by side comparison of Israeli textbooks with the ones used throughout the Arab world, they do read the history of the region differently but you will not find the type of virulent anti-semitism you find in the Arab texts. Thats just a fact and you will have to get use to that.
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03-Dec-2004, 03:27 PM #11
Wow,

It was just a year or two ago that I remember reading an article that praised this same program, because it had both Israeli and Palestinian characters (puppets) that were shown to be friends and lived in harmony....Bizzare that it has taken such a strange twist (maybe it was a different copy of Sesame Street, or broadcast elsewhere).

Too bad.
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03-Dec-2004, 06:22 PM #12
Linsky, that reminds me of when Kerry said we needed to get back to "acceptable levels" of terrorism

I think it would be silly to just "get used" to the fact that a lot of young Muslims are brainwashed into thinking that every other faith is crap and inferior. Thats sorta like saying the jews in WW2 should have just "gotten used" to the fact that the Nazi's taught the same thing...

The only difference here is the lack of centralized leadership and the technological and manpower edge that Germany had that forced the world to react as it did. Otherwise they are the same, extremist Islam and Nazi Germany.

And I'll go further to say that yes, I realize that not all muslims are extremists just as not all germans were nazi's... (before someone yells! )

Columbo, I remember reading the same thing, I believe it was in Time or Newsweek last year.
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04-Dec-2004, 10:55 PM #13
The whole Jew hating thing among Muslims is a front. The idea is to take the huddled masses of impoverished Muslims and give them a symbol to hate. By doing this, the oppressive regimes that control most of the Middle East can continue to oppress because the scapegoat is to blame. In this sense they are very much like Nazis. Goebels et al. would be proud of the way Arab governments have adapted the techniques that the Third Reich perfected.
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05-Dec-2004, 12:30 AM #14
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Linsky, that reminds me of when Kerry said we needed to get back to "acceptable levels" of terrorism
I believe that Kerry's statement was made with the consideration that it would be nearly impossible to wipe out terrorism entirely (don't you agree?), so we must reduce the effect of terrorism. It means the same thing as saying to wipe out terrorism, but without the naive belief that you can destroy it completely.

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Its so sad, but its hard to think you can stop someone that in their heart really believes they are going to get a reward for killing not only others but will kill themselves because they believe their God has told them so.

I was sitting today with a group online discussing what will the world do when one of these nuts gets a nuke! Because this is definately in the future folks. Anyway, later I got an email from one of the people with an article attached. I think many people are discussing the "what ifs" right now and discussing what solutions we can come up with to deter a nuke headed our way in the name of Allah.... Anyway, here is the article about what someone thinks America should do if they are hit with a nuke...

Written by David C. Atkins, president of ASA Solutions.

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.


Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:


In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed.
Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.

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