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Scott Peterson: Fry 'im or Let Him Live


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View Poll Results: What Do Think The Jury Should Do With Scott Peterson?
Fry His Worthless Carcass! 18 62.07%
Show Mercy, Let Him Live! 11 37.93%
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01-Dec-2004, 08:21 PM #1
Scott Peterson: Fry 'im or Let Him Live
Scott Peterson has been convicted of killing his wife and his unborn baby. Now the Jury has to decide whether he should get death or life imprisonment.

What do you think?
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01-Dec-2004, 11:30 PM #2
Maybe one of the CA lawyers in the forum could let us know when the last execution took place in that state.
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01-Dec-2004, 11:36 PM #3
He should get life in prison with no parole! Give him time to think about what he's done...lethal injection is too easy!
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01-Dec-2004, 11:38 PM #4
Hulk: You can read more about it here:

http://forums.techguy.org/showthread.php?t=294034
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02-Dec-2004, 12:38 AM #5
Life in prison, nooooooo parole!!
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02-Dec-2004, 12:54 AM #6
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Life in prison, nooooooo parole!!


Indeed, I agree.

All the more showers he has to go through in prison.
Don't drop the soap scott!
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02-Dec-2004, 01:04 AM #7
Assuming there isn't any question of his guilt, I say execute him. Although he would be punished more in prison, I would rather see him executed and not be a drain on society.

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02-Dec-2004, 01:15 AM #8
You know...Lacie's mother said something that just made me weep so hard...
She was talking to the jury about the funeral. She said something like..
"I knew she was in the casket...and I knew the baby was in there with her...but she didn't have any arms to hold him!"

Our children are our most precious gifts.
Anyone that hurts us through our children is an enemy!
I can't imagine being Lacie's parents!
God bless them!
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02-Dec-2004, 02:43 AM #9
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Assuming there isn't any question of his guilt, I say execute him. Although he would be punished more in prison, I would rather see him executed and not be a drain on society.

Alex
Unfortunately, it is cheaper to keep him in prison for life than to execute him--considerably cheaper, in fact. The appeals process goes on for years taking up thousands of hours of government resources. It will take at least 10 years before he finally gets executed.
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02-Dec-2004, 02:48 AM #10
Can you just imagine what the other inmates will do to him?
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02-Dec-2004, 05:58 AM #11
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Can you just imagine what the other inmates will do to him?
You mean like let him have a slow death from aids?...
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02-Dec-2004, 10:46 AM #12
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You mean like let him have a slow death from aids?...
If he even gets that lucky...
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02-Dec-2004, 11:51 AM #13
Show mercy. I think he's guilty, but without a witness, and all that circumstancial evidence, I want him sitting in a cell for the rest of his life. No parole.
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02-Dec-2004, 11:59 AM #14
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Unfortunately, it is cheaper to keep him in prison for life than to execute him--considerably cheaper, in fact. The appeals process goes on for years taking up thousands of hours of government resources. It will take at least 10 years before he finally gets executed.
Going to have to disagree with you on this one Mulder-duder.
As an undergad, I was such a vicious, knowledgable, and liberal eatin' student, that one day they had new Professor interviewing in the department, they had him teach a class that I was enrolled in to see if he could handle me, the idea being if he could survive my onslaught, he just might have a chinace. The professor was against the Death Penalty (hereby known as DP, so no one giggle) and I think everyone knows my stance.
Anyway, he used the same logic as you, that its cheaper to house them. What you are forgetting is that although the appeals process can be costly, we are dealing with someone who is quite young, and could easily live another 40 years. We don't know what the costs of housing prisoners will be in the long term, we can estimate on the short-term, but when dealing with this professor, I had just completed a paper on the the DP and had shown that, in the long run, it WAS cheaper to execute rather than house them. As far as costs, we aren't necessarily talking about room and board, but also long term health care which the state MUST provide.


D. THE COST OF LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE VS THE DEATH PENALTY

Many opponents present, as fact, that the cost of the death penalty is so expensive (at least $2 million per case?), that we must choose life without parole ("LWOP") at a cost of $1 million for 50 years. Predictably, these pronouncements may be entirely false. JFA estimates that LWOP cases will cost $1.2 million - $3.6 million more than equivalent death penalty cases.



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Cost of Life Without Parole: Cases
Equivalent To Death Penalty Cases Cost of Death Penalty Cases
1. $34,200/year (1) for 50 years (2), at
a 2% (3) annual cost increase, plus
$75,000 (4) for trial & appeals = $3.01 million $60,000/year (1) for 6 years (5), at
a 2% (3) annual cost increase, plus
$1.5 million (4) for trial & appeals = $1.88 million
2. Same, except 3% (3) = $4.04 million Same, except 3% (3) = $1.89 million
3. Same, except 4% (3) = $5.53 million Same, except 4% (3) = $1.91 million



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There is no question that the up front costs of the death penalty are significantly higher than for equivalent LWOP cases. There also appears to be no question that, over time, equivalent LWOP cases are much more expensive - from $1.2 to $3.6 million - than death penalty cases. Opponents ludicrously claim that the death penalty costs, over time, 3-10 times more than LWOP.
(1) The $34,200 is conservative, if TIME Magazine's (2/7/94) research is accurate. TIME found that, nationwide, the average cell cost is $24,000/yr. and the maximum security cell cost is $75,000/yr. (as of 12/95). Opponents claim that LWOP should replace the DP. Therefore, any cost calculations should be based specifically on cell costs for criminals who have committed the exact same category of offense - in other words, cost comparisons are valid only if you compare the costs of DP-equivalent LWOP cases to the cost of DP cases. The $34,200/yr. cell cost assumes that only 20% of the DP-equivalent LWOP cases would be in maximum security cost cells and that 80% of the DP-equivalent LWOP cases would be in average cost cells. A very conservative estimate. The $60,000/yr., for those on death row, assumes that such cells will average a cost equal to 80% of the $75,000/yr. for the most expensive maximum security cells. A very high estimate. Even though we are calculating a 75% greater cell cost for the DP than for equivalent LWOP cases, equivalent LWOP cases appear to be significantly more expensive, over time, than their DP counterparts. For years, opponents have improperly compared the cost of all LWOP cases to DP cases, when only the DP equivalent LWOP cases are relevant.
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02-Dec-2004, 07:55 PM #15
Dumb argument--that it is cheaper or costs more, just as the pro death penalty argument that it acts as a deterence is nonsense. The only good argument I can see is that the State has been known to make mistakes. One innocent man fried is enough for me to be against the death penalty.
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