[izme]

Walmart buys cheap goods, they buy from Countries where the cost of labor is very little so the goods are cheap, driving America's Companies out of business, because they cannot even produce the same thing for the amount of money that Walmart buys it for, it is speculated that Walmart is one of the leading causes of the destruction of Industry and wages in our Nation and that anyone that buys from Walmart is buying into their own Demise and into a rotten Company etc....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...rm/isgood.html

I saw a show on frontline where we recieve far more good's then we ship out, no-one will pay our prices, Countries that pay their workers a bag of rice and very little wage per day worked, thank to Globalization, and it cost's them far less for labor. Companies can go to these Countries and pay chicken feed to their workers and then sell goods to America far cheaper than we can afford to even make them

I just wonder what everyone's thoughts are on this. Does Walmart set the standard for low paying incomes even though it is one of the leading contributers to our economy? Where many other Companies follow suit? hence the rise of low paying jobs? A double edged sword so to speak?

I know they are only part of the problem

many speculate that if big business had it's way we would all be getting a bag of rice and no living wage, that's what we fought for in the past, against greedy companies and the notion that the money we give to our own governement is theirs and any form of giving it back is pennance or a hand out that we don't deserve. Walmart is leading that way of greed first, buy cheap goods and to hell with American Companies for the most part?

Interesting thought

I am not sure either way, don't know enough about it, hence why I put up this thread

[Infidel_Kastro]

Wal-Mart:
Bringing new definition to the term "suck" everyday.

[izme]

I remember reading in the local paper where this lady's husband was dying of Cancer and that she was unable to get insurance because Walmart kept her just under the hours to be eligible for Health Care insurance, so she put up a can at the door to help her survive due to unbelievable hospital bills, instead of reprimanding her they instantly fired her and her husband died, she was contemplating suicide because her life was basically over, I wish I could have talked to her in person, I have dealt with many suicidle people in my life and turned them around. How sad is that? I wonder if she is still alive? And then I read another of almost the same things happeneing back east. You being an easily replacable number and nothing more. The Expendable lowly low wage workers that are growing at staggering rates? Makes my heart sick

[linskyjack]

Walmart--the funny thing is that quite often their prices aren't that great! We would never allow one to go up in our neck of the woods--We like the small town atmosphere and the central shopping district.

[izme]

I boycotted them over a year ago

will not step foot in there


Buy American goods mainly

[iltos]

i make a big deal on these threads about the motives of capitalism and globalization and the responsibilites of government

but there is of course another side to this coin....

walmart is not alone in being all about price, and so long as the consumer is all about price, we will continue to get what we pay for.....the days of mom and pop customer service and quality (biz ethics) survive in only a few shopping niches, but even the big discounter are not immune to its necessity....they are merely searching for the bottom line of our tolerance.....

so, as with most stuff, it ultimately is reflected back on us.....

Izme has the right approach

[izme]

Bear in mind that in no way am I saying that Walmart is responsible for his death although he might have just given up knowing he is costing her tons or whatever. Nor can Walmart be blamed for her wanting to commit suicide. Some things push people over the edge. I wonder as bad as it's getting how many more are committing suicide. all of this talk is bull of jobs and stuff, lot's of minimum wage jobs, where you have you have to take on 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. People with degree's working minimum wage jobs cause many of the high tech jobs went over seas etc.

just go out and look for a job

I am not low income and I bring in a lot of money, doesn't mean I don't have a heart for the less fortunate, the big difference between me and many of the well off of this Nation.

[izme]

Originally Posted by iltos

i make a big deal on these threads about the motives of capitalism and globalization and the responsibilites of government

but there is of course another side to this coin....

walmart is not alone in being all about price, and so long as the consumer is all about price, we will continue to get what we pay for.....the days of mom and pop customer service and quality (biz ethics) survive in only a few shopping niches, but even the big discounter are not immune to its necessity....they are merely searching for the bottom line of our tolerance.....

so, as with most stuff, it ultimately is reflected back on us.....

Izme has the right approach

It's the whole business Nation and it's Corporations that are Destroying America, all of the spreadsheets and Republican bull doesn't change anything, just words that mean nothing, cuz actions speak louder. This Country and it's people is in trouble & Globalization is not good for America

and Dats the facts jack

[Servant of Eru]

Originally Posted by iltos

i make a big deal on these threads about the motives of capitalism and globalization and the responsibilites of government

but there is of course another side to this coin....

walmart is not alone in being all about price, and so long as the consumer is all about price, we will continue to get what we pay for.....the days of mom and pop customer service and quality (biz ethics) survive in only a few shopping niches, but even the big discounter are not immune to its necessity....they are merely searching for the bottom line of our tolerance.....

so, as with most stuff, it ultimately is reflected back on us.....

Izme has the right approach

There was an episode of South Park along these lines.

"The heart of the Wal-Mart is US!"

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by izme

I remember reading in the local paper where this lady's husband was dying of Cancer and that she was unable to get insurance because Walmart kept her just under the hours to be eligible for Health Care insurance, so she put up a can at the door to help her survive due to unbelievable hospital bills, instead of reprimanding her they instantly fired her and her husband died, she was contemplating suicide because her life was basically over, I wish I could have talked to her in person, I have dealt with many suicidle people in my life and turned them around. How sad is that? I wonder if she is still alive? And then I read another of almost the same things happeneing back east. You being an easily replacable number and nothing more. The Expendable lowly low wage workers that are growing at staggering rates? Makes my heart sick

Not to sound callous, but she could have worked elsewhere.

[izme]

Originally Posted by Gibble

Not to sound callous, but she could have worked elsewhere.

I agree totally, I highly recommend that to anyone thinking about working for WalMart (wally world)

I could not work for another large company again, I hate feeling like just a number, in a small Company I like it far more. Treated better etc. not that some big Companies don't treat their Employees good

[iltos]

Originally Posted by izme

This Country and it's people is in trouble &Globalization is not good for America....and Dats the facts jack

if you mean by this that globalization is not about keeping american "on top", then i understand your fear....consider, however, that it is an economic system that essentially matured here that has become globalization....much like an adolescent becoming an adult, capitalism no longer "needs" its parent country

the danger, imo, is our inability to separate the ideals embodied in the american political system from the ideals embodied in the american economic system....

[izme]

Originally Posted by iltos

if you mean by this that globalization is not about keeping american "on top", then i understand your fear....consider, however, that it is an economic system that essentially matured here that has become globalization....much like an adolescent becoming an adult, capitalism no longer "needs" its parent country

the danger, imo, is our inability to separate the ideals embodied in the american political system from the ideals embodied in the american economic system....

Hence> America is just too expensive to do business with. The ratio of Imports to Exports is scairy and we pay the big prices. Many factors here, not just Wallyworld, couldn't tell a republican that. To them it's shangri la huh?

So robbing from Peter to pay Paul can be a viscious cycle, especially in this day and age.

[Big-K]

Originally Posted by Servant of Eru

There was an episode of South Park along these lines.

"The heart of the Wal-Mart is US!"

Heheh, that one ruled. 'We lost control of it years ago, there no way to stop it...unless...the heart!'. But yeah, I do believe that they're contributing to the problem. They might be making more jobs every day, but if that continues there wont be nearly as many well paying jobs. Whats the point of having lots of jobs when they dont pay enough to make ends meet? People need some free time.

[izme]

Originally Posted by Big-K

Heheh, that one ruled. 'We lost control of it years ago, there no way to stop it...unless...the heart!'. But yeah, I do believe that they're contributing to the problem. They might be making more jobs every day, but if that continues there wont be nearly as many well paying jobs. Whats the point of having lots of jobs when they dont pay enough to make ends meet? People need some free time.

If the Nation's leading Employer pays peanut wages, won't many follow suit?

Record profits for Wallyworld and they will NOT share the wealth with their employees?