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23-Feb-2005, 02:49 PM #1
White people need not apply?
Correctional Service disqualifying whites
By KATHLEEN HARRIS, OTTAWA BUREAU, SUN MEDIA

Critics are calling it "craziness" that the Correctional Service of Canada is disqualifying candidates for parole officer jobs because they're white. An Ontario job-seeker received a rejection letter recently, advising that only aboriginals and visible minorities need apply.

"Please be advised that effective immediately the Ontario region of the Correctional Service of Canada is no longer maintaining an inventory for parole officer applications from the general public," the Feb. 19 letter reads.

"Due to staffing resources we will continue to accept applications from aboriginal and visible-minority candidates only."

CSC is committed to having a "skilled, diversified workforce reflective of Canadian society," the letter continues, adding that future vacancies may be posted that are open to the "general public."

Conservative MP Myron Thompson called the policy "unbelievable" and "craziness" and suggested CSC is putting political correctness ahead of merit.

"I can't believe they would put that in writing," he fumed.

"What's happened to merit in this country -- abilities and skills? What's happened to training and expertise?

"Everyone should be on equal playing field when it comes to applying for a position like that and it shouldn't have a thing to do with ethnic background."

CSC spokesman Michele Pilon-Santilli said the pool was narrowed because a high number of applicants were competing for limited openings and it was proving "costly" to maintain the inventory. Aboriginal and minority candidates must meet all requirements for the job, she stressed.

"They are under-represented in both of those areas, so those are the only CVs they are maintaining right now," she said.

"We do have a diverse population and we need to serve Canadians.

"Representation is an integral part of today's public service, as is education, experience and linguistic capabilities."

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...39794-sun.html




Now, I can understand the desire to ensure that everyone, regardless of ethnicity or gender, is afforded an equal opportunity to gain employment, but isn't this just the opposite?

The adminstration at CSC is one of the most disgraceful, corrupt band of idiots I've ever heard about. Their commissioner, Lucie McClung, was in the newspapers frequently over the last year, due to exposure of her outrageous "travelling" expenses (*cough* taxpayer-funded vacations *cough*), not to mention numerous other incidents (relating to prisoners throwing parties and having barbeques, ridiculously early paroles for repeat [often violent] offenders, etc.).

I am going to call the show "Overhaulin'" and ask them to "overhaul" this got-damned government here in Canada
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23-Feb-2005, 02:51 PM #2
Great to see that the Canadian government is addressing the issue of historical racism in Canada! Bravo!
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23-Feb-2005, 02:55 PM #3
This is wack
Just another ploy by the man to keep us white brutha's down... ya dig?

Trying to be comically ironic
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23-Feb-2005, 03:07 PM #4
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Great to see that the Canadian government is addressing the issue of historical racism in Canada! Bravo!
Uh, no, sorry. Addressing the issue of historical racism in Canada would require a long-term government investment in improving poverty-stricken communities (through the construction of affordable houses and apartments with government subsidies to aide homeowners), building new schools with a revised and updated curriculum, better job-assistance and skills-training programs, and that's just to start.

But see, politicians (Liberals in this case) and (judging by your reply), people like you, prefer style over substance. They prefer band-aid solutions that give the impression (an illusion) that they're "doing something for the people".

Hence, the government doesn't say "Let's develop and implement a long-term plan to significantly improve the lives of Aboriginal people across Canada", they say "Let's not hire any more white people for jobs with CSC; That will really improve Aboriginal communities across Canada!"

....And people like you Linsky, apparently applaud them for it.
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23-Feb-2005, 03:09 PM #5
Racism is wrong but you should also get the best abilities and skills you can and then you have the best worker for the job.
You should not pick people just because of there race.

My dad was passed up everytime to move up the ladder in his job.
But the law said they had to others from all the other races, male and female.
Many of them did not even know how to do there job but they still got pick.
My dad was a building inspector. I don't know about you but I would not want to buy a home that would of never gotten passed because it was not up to code but it was passed because they had someone that did not know how to do there job because the law said they had to get some other race only because they did not have that race.
Some time because of this there would only be one person they could even pick from for a new job opening and it did not matter how smart or DUMB they were they got the job.
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23-Feb-2005, 03:29 PM #6
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Just another ploy by the man to keep us white brutha's down... ya dig?
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23-Feb-2005, 03:40 PM #7
I despise racism, I go to the anti racism rallies every year etc.

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices seems to be missing the big picture, that we are all created equal
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I despise racism, I go to the anti racism rallies every year etc.

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices seems to be missing the big picture, that we are all created equal
Same here but telling the white people not to apply for a job is racism still.
Like the saying goes two wrongs does not make it right.

Just stop doing the wrong and over time also getting the best person for the job. It will take time but is better when you have the best person for any job there is. If some other person wants to be whatever then learn how to do what ever.
I would hate to go to the doctors and see a doctor that was there for me and the only reason they was there was the law made them pick that person because of there race and they don't know anything. To many die because of doctors every years as it is.
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Same here but telling the white people not to apply for a job is racism still.

We should not tolerate racism in any case
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We should not tolerate racism in any case
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Great to see that the Canadian government is addressing the issue of historical racism in Canada! Bravo!
Why am I not surprised that you celebrate racism
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...but the real question is....do they smoke?


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23-Feb-2005, 05:03 PM #14
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Great to see that the Canadian government is addressing the issue of historical racism in Canada! Bravo!
Now I risk real trouble over my comments, not to mention putting my 'liberal' creditentials at risk!.
Linsky , I respectfully disagree.
I know better than most the racism that has , and does exsist, and how it hurts, but this , in my opinion , is wrong.
I think there are far better ways to lend a hand to minority than pitting them against fellow citizens with a Govt approved advantage.
Any program to 'bring up' , without direct competition with built in advantage, would be more acceptable. Something as important as your ability to find work should not be 'on the table'.
I really believe most people want to move on from this, not to keep minority 'down' , but to stop dicrimanation altogether.
I have came to this conclusion a long time ago because of things I have seen.
I am a Union man, and as you know , we use bids for position based on seniority-- a number. This does not mean the person awarded is guaranteed the postion, but has the opportunity to take it, and if successful, keep it.
I have seen that with a level playing field, there is no problem at all, from white , brown , or black.
Now picture this , what if I assigned an automatic advantage of several years seniority to say Cuban hispanic, or blacks ? What do think would happen?.
I can tell you, racial harmony ---out the window!!!. The whites would hate it ---us and it would be nasty. I think in some plants , they would riot, and possibly kick fidelista's butt{or worse} . Assign advantage to whites ---same scenario.
I admit , I am only commenting on the small part of life that I know ---live, but this {the Canadian practice mentioned} much the same only on a grander scale.
Any thing that creates more hatred, and can be demonstrated as giving unfair advantage, is not helpful, or constructive, in my opinion.
There are many young white people entering workforce with no history of racism, no guilt, and not expecting favor. When they face competition in finding work, AND find the cards offically stacked against them because they are white......they well may learn racism.....not what anybody wants.
I have to add , that I am not against spending tax dollars on any program that may help minorities , lend a help up, even when excluding whites--we know our history. I am just against creating more problem.
At some point , all discrimation based on color must stop, come to zero, if this system is to have a chance.
I for one, would never even consider standing in Union meeting proposing to 'rig' our system in favor of colour.....I want to keep my skin! >f
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23-Feb-2005, 05:15 PM #15
Frankly, this is stupid.

I'm with Fidelista...I am all for helping minorities gaining equality, but this is totally the wrong way to do it. Period.
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