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04-Mar-2005, 06:21 PM #16
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a liter??? What in tarnation is a liter??? We measure things by gallons. Gallons. If you are going to communicate, at least convert it to our language. Thanks!

Typo !!! so sue me !!!! and why should we convert it to YOUR language??? you guys are so damn smart i figured you would just automatically know these things.
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04-Mar-2005, 06:33 PM #17
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Typo !!! so sue me !!!! and why should we convert it to YOUR language??? you guys are so damn smart i figured you would just automatically know these things.
LMAO!!!
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04-Mar-2005, 06:47 PM #18
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Typo !!! so sue me !!!! and why should we convert it to YOUR language??? you guys are so damn smart i figured you would just automatically know these things.
Firstly, I admire your acknowledgment for our vast knowledge. Our superiour intellect. Thank you dear for recognizing this inherent fact.

Secondly, it is not a matter of our smartness being able to convert your silly willy volumetric unit to our's. It is indeed a matter of respect. A respect that our units are better than yours. A respect that our language is superior than yours.

Oh, don't worry your pretty little moonmisty noggin. We shall sue, and soon. Your sport that we took over has died. And we demand that your gov't fix it so that the US owners of the Canadian players can entertain us US citizens.




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04-Mar-2005, 07:11 PM #19
A Liter.......isn't that from the metric system? Why do we learn the metric system in high school here in America and then never use it.............except for the well known 2 liter bottle of soda?? I wonder why metric hasn't caught on in America.........maybe thats another thread
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04-Mar-2005, 07:27 PM #20
Okay, let's see now...

A liter is a retar... eh, I mean a special gallon. Roughly four liters to a gallon (1.06 gallons for the anal retentive peoples). So $ .889 a liter would be about $3.35 a gallon. Loonies, that is. Convert to US dollars, and our northern friends are paying $2.72 a gallon.

Around here it's $1.99 on Missouri side, and about 10¢ more in Kansas.
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04-Mar-2005, 07:41 PM #21
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Firstly, I admire your acknowledgment for our vast knowledge. Our superiour intellect. Thank you dear for recognizing this inherent fact.
Im saddened that you dont recognize sarcasm FurryHobbes.......
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Secondly, it is not a matter of our smartness being able to convert your silly willy volumetric unit to our's. It is indeed a matter of respect. A respect that our units are better than yours. A respect that our language is superior than yours.
I respect the fact that you guys are and always have been slow to catch on to things, FYI, pretty much everyone is metric except you molasses speed intellect folk.
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Oh, don't worry your pretty little moonmisty noggin. We shall sue, and soon. Your sport that we took over has died. And we demand that your gov't fix it so that the US owners of the Canadian players can entertain us US citizens.
This is just mean
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04-Mar-2005, 09:43 PM #22
I'll say the same thing I've always said - research into improving the efficiency of alternative energy sources should be encouraged. Although it would cost a lot at first, I think it would be worth it for the benifits for the US and Australia.

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04-Mar-2005, 10:13 PM #23
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I'll say the same thing I've always said - research into improving the efficiency of alternative energy sources should be encouraged. Although it would cost a lot at first, I think it would be worth it for the benifits for the US and Australia
They don't need the research Alex, they already know how to do this. Back in the 60's Chrysler made a turbine car that ran on water. Rumor has it that the gas companies paid them money not to produced it. Over in Europe they run cars on Hydrogen. It's very cheap and produces no pollution. We won't see that in the states until our lame government passes laws that control the lobbyist
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04-Mar-2005, 10:13 PM #24
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a liter??? What in tarnation is a liter??? We measure things by gallons. Gallons. If you are going to communicate, at least convert it to our language. Thanks!


1 Imperial Gallon has 4.55 liters so the price is $4.04 (@ 88.9 per liter) per gal. A US gallon is 4/5 the volume of an Imperial gallon so doing a quick gozinta would make it close to $3.23 usd per US gallon. If it's any consolation to Canadians you can drive more kilometers per liter than miles per quart if you just look at the numbers without converting. Kinda like how some members deal with issues in CD.
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They don't need the research Alex, they already know how to do this. Back in the 60's Chrysler made a turbine car that ran on water.
As I said before, when you were using illogical claims about UFOs refuelling from volcanos to take a cheap shot at the Republicans, unless the hydrogen is being used as fuel for a fusion reactor (a technology which has not yet become efficient enough to produce more usable energy than it uses), to produce a usable fuel from the water requires the same or greater energy than could be generated from that fuel.

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Rumor has it that the gas companies paid them money not to produced it.
That is an urban legend, and one which defys logic.

If Chrysler really was in that position, they would be far better off patenting the technology, then mass producing the vehicles ASAP. That way their vehicles would be far cheaper to run and more environmentally friendly than the competition, it would effectively kill off the opposing companies.

If they did, as you claim, take the money from the oil companies, this would provide income for little work in the short term, but would provide competing companies with an opportunity to come up with their own technologies, which would, at best, leave Chrysler in a duopoly, rather than the monopoly they would have had otherwise. What company would give up an opportunity to become the best producer of their product in the world?

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Over in Europe they run cars on Hydrogen. It's very cheap and produces no pollution.
You have to produce the hydrogen in the first place. A hydrogen car simply displaces the energy requirements from the car itself to the location where the hydrogen gas is created. You must first have access to the alternative energy sources with which to produce the hydrogen gas. For example, in Iceland, geothermal energy is a well developed source of energy, but this energy source is not available in many areas. With the exception of fusion, hydrogen as an energy source has more in common with a battery than with a generator.

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With current technology, burning oil to make hydrogen to run a bus produces more pollution than simply running the bus on oil. Iceland sees itself as a testing ground, where almost unlimited heat from hot springs can be tapped for experiments.
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04-Mar-2005, 11:54 PM #26
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That is an urban legend, and one which defys logic.
Only your logic :ROLLEYES: Are you saying that Chrysler didn't make this car, or that they aren't using hydrogen in Europe?

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If Chrysler really was in that position, they would be far better off patenting the technology
They did!


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They do!
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05-Mar-2005, 01:34 AM #27
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Im saddened that you dont recognize sarcasm FurryHobbes.......
I respect the fact that you guys are and always have been slow to catch on to things, FYI, pretty much everyone is metric except you molasses speed intellect folk.
This is just mean
Sorry my lady. For some reason, due to some cosmic forces beyond my control, I was way out of line and too mean in my kidding with you. In light of this revelation, please accept my most sincere and humble appologies and know that I mean no harm at all, only having some fun at the expense of both the metric system and hockey, two items that I myself have a love-hate relationship with, via your post(s). I do indeed sincerely recognize sarcasm, and in fact, contrary to some rumours that others may hold dear, I do on occasion even utilize sarcasm to make my own point in a post. Lastly, I offer you this virtual hug, and in the case that we shall ever meet in person, a cold beveradge of your choice is yours. Until then, thank you for your understanding.


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05-Mar-2005, 03:39 AM #28
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Only your logic :ROLLEYES: Are you saying that Chrysler didn't make this car, or that they aren't using hydrogen in Europe?
I am saying that the 'rumor' that Chrysler produced a 'turbine car that ran on water' and was bribed by the oil companies to not produce it is illogical, because Chrysler would be far better off making that massive leap ahead of their competition and simultaneously making themselves resistant to changes in demand caused by changes in the price of gasoline.

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They do!
Which is why it is of no benefit until the alternative energy sources are available to power the conversion. The hydrogen fuel cell is not an energy source in the economic sense, any more than a battery is. It is simply a means of storing energy until it is required.

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Which is why it is of no benefit until the alternative energy sources are available to power the conversion.
The hydrogen costs pennies for them to make. The cars are already set up to run on it. They convert old gas stations into 'hydrogen stations'. What is your point? I will post more about it and Chrysler tomorrow for you
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05-Mar-2005, 05:53 AM #30
Hi guys!

To be honest it's hard to feel sorry for you guys! Am I right in thinking your Gas costs are going UP to $2.16 ish?

In the UK we are already paying around £5 per gallon or $6.62. Admittedly most of that is our gov't screwing the motorist as hard as possible with tax because we're an easy target, afterall, people need to move around so lets tax people's freedom of movement!
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