[linskyjack]

Well this sums it up. Dafur pretty much says that there were no WMD's. Not that righty cares--In fact, Dafur says that there is no evidence that existing weapons were shipped to Syria (thats a common claim of righty). You see righty now tells us that we are in Iraq to liberate the Iraqi people. The amazing thing is that these hypocrites act as if this was the original reason for the invasion? Does one Bu****e have the courage to come out and say that this war was fought under false pretenses, and was either a tremendous failure of this administration, or possibley a treacherous coup by the neo-cons that has resulted in 1500 deaths and 10,000 wounded Americans. (Not to mention the thousands of Iraqi civilian deaths).



Weapons Inspector Ends WMD Search in Iraq



By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Wrapping up his investigation into Saddam Hussein's purported arsenal, the CIA's top weapons hunter in Iraq said his search for weapons of mass destruction "has been exhausted" without finding any.


Nor did he find any evidence that such weapons were shipped officially from Iraq to Syria to be hidden before the U.S. invasion, but he couldn't rule out some unofficial transfer of limited WMD-related materials.

He closed his effort with words of caution about potential future threats and careful assessment of this and other unanswered questions.

The Bush administration justified its 2003 invasion of Iraq as necessary to eliminate Hussein's purported stockpile of WMD.

"As matters now stand, the WMD investigation has gone as far as feasible," wrote Charles Duelfer, head of the Iraq Survey Group, in an addendum to the report he issued last fall. "After more than 18 months, the WMD investigation and debriefing of the WMD-related detainees has been exhausted."

In 92 pages posted online Monday evening, Duelfer provided a final look at an investigation that, at its peak, occupied more than 1,000 military and civilian translators, weapons specialists and other experts. His latest addenda conclude a roughly 1,500-page report released last fall.

Among warnings sprinkled throughout the new documents, one concludes that Saddam's programs created a pool of weapons experts, many of whom will be seeking work. While most will probably turn to the "benign civil sector," the danger remains that "hostile foreign governments, terrorists or insurgents may seek Iraqi expertise."

"Because a single individual can advance certain WMD activities, it remains an important concern," one addendum said.

Another addendum noted that military forces in Iraq may continue to find small numbers of degraded chemical weapons — most likely misplaced or improperly destroyed before 1991. In an insurgent's hands, "the use of a single even ineffectual chemical weapon would likely cause more terror than deadlier conventional explosives," the addendum said.

And still another said the survey group found some potential nuclear-related equipment was "missing from heavily damaged and looted sites." Yet, because of deteriorating security in Iraq, the survey group was unable to determine what happened to the equipment, which also had alternate civilian uses.

"Some of it probably has been sold for its scrap value. Other pieces might have been disassembled" and converted into motors or condensers, an addendum said. "Still others could have been taken intact to preserve their function."

Leaving the door to the investigation open just a crack, a U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said a small team still operates under the U.S.-led multinational force in Iraq, although the survey group officially disbanded earlier this month. Those staying on continue to examine documents and follow up any reports of weapons of mass destruction.

In a statement accompanying the final installment, Duelfer said any surprise discovery would be most likely in the biological weapons area because facilities and other clues would be comparatively small.

Among unanswered questions, Duelfer said a group formed to investigate whether WMD-related material was shipped out of Iraq before the invasion wasn't able to reach firm conclusions because the security situation halted its work. Investigators were focusing on transfers from Iraq to Syria.

The questioning of Iraqis did not produce any information to support the transfer possibility, one addendum said. The Iraq Survey Group believes "it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials."

[Wino]

Crow meat specials today! Get it why the supply last.

I believe I finally found the architectural basis Bush used for the invasion of Iraq. The irony of it all, it was written and directed by Michael Moore. The parallels of the fictional storyline vs. the real are astounding. Highly recommend the movie "Canadian Bacon", along with a bag of popped buttered crow!

[linskyjack]

LOL--Bush is a Moore-on!

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

LOL--Bush is a Moore-on!

Yes....yes he is......a moron, too

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Yes....yes he is......a moron, too

Yep, your 20/20 hindsight is accurate. Where were you when everyone including Saddam thought he had them?

[Wino]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Yep, your 20/20 hindsight is accurate. Where were you when everyone including Saddam thought he had them?

Can't speak for Stoner, but I'm right were I was before GWII - against the war. Should have let the Inspections continue, which had found NADA in WMD. Saddam was fenced in with north & south no fly zones, was bombed frequently when they stepped out of line, felt we were being fed a line of crap regarding WMD by the Bush administration in their RUSH to war, Iraq had not attacked us on 911 and warring with Iraq was taking their eyes off the ball (OBL & Al Queda) and diluting our efforts in Afghanistan, would be a waste in money, men and materials, that if the Iraqi's wanted to be rid of Saddam they could damn well do it themselves with or without overt/covert help from USA.

[LANMaster]

CIA can't rule out WMD move to Syria

link

The CIA's chief weapons inspector said he cannot rule out the possibility that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were secretly shipped to Syria before the March 2003 invasion, citing "sufficiently credible" evidence that WMDs may have been moved there.
Inspector Charles Duelfer, who heads the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), made the findings in an addendum to his final report filed last year. He said the search for WMD in Iraq -- the main reason President Bush went to war to oust Saddam Hussein -- has been exhausted without finding such weapons. Iraq had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s.
But on the question of Syria, Mr. Duelfer did not close the books. "ISG was unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war," Mr. Duelfer said in a report posted on the CIA's Web site Monday night.
He cited some evidence of a transfer. "Whether Syria received military items from Iraq for safekeeping or other reasons has yet to be determined," he said. "There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation."
But Mr. Duelfer said he was unable to complete that aspect of the probe because "the declining security situation limited and finally halted this investigation. The results remain inconclusive, but further investigation may be undertaken when circumstances on the ground improve."
Arguing against a WMD transfer to Syria, Mr. Duelfer said, was the fact that all senior Iraqi detainees involved in Saddam's weapons programs and security "uniformly denied any knowledge of residual WMD that could have been secreted to Syria."
"Nevertheless," the inspector said, "given the insular and compartmented nature of the regime, ISG analysts believed there was enough evidence to merit further investigation."
He said that even if all leads are pursued someday, the ISG may never be able to finally determine whether WMDs were taken across the border. "Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place," his report stated. "However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials."
Speculation on WMDs in Syria was fueled by the fact that satellite images picked up long lines of trucks waiting to cross the border into Syria before the coalition launched the invasion. Mr. Duelfer previously had reported that Syria was a major conduit for materials entering Iraq that were banned by the United Nations.
Saddam placed such importance on illicit trade with Syria that he dispatched Iraqi Intelligence Service agents to various border crossings to supervise border agents, and, in some cases, to shoo them away, senior officials told The Washington Times last year.
Today, U.S. officials charge that Syria continues to harbor Saddam loyalists who are directing and financing the insurgency in Iraq. The Iraq-Syria relationship between two Ba'athist socialist regimes has further encouraged speculation of weapons transfers.
Several senior U.S. officials have said since the invasion that they thought WMD went to Syria.
Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong, the deputy commander of U.S. Central Command during the war, said in his book, "Inside CentCom," that intelligence reports pointed to WMD movement into Syria.
In October, John A. Shaw, then the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told The Times that Russian special forces and intelligence troops worked with Saddam's intelligence service to move weapons and material to Syria, Lebanon and possibly Iran.
"The organized effort was done in advance of the conflict," he said.

[linskyjack]

Yeah, and he can't rule out that they didn't go to Togo on a cargo ship--how absurd. By the way, I was against this war from day one so don't play that game with me.

[Mulderator]

Only a Moore-On would believe Hussein didn't have WMDs. The guy gassed his own people--he used them--they were never accounted for. Just what do you Moore-Ons think happened to them? They vanished into thin air? The gullibility is astonishing.

What I would like is for one Moore-On to explain to me this. We know he had weapons--even all the Democrats agree on this. He never provided any evidence to the inspectors as to what happened to them. So then, what happened to them? Where are they?

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by Mulder

Only a Moore-On would believe Hussein didn't have WMDs. The guy gassed his own people--he used them--they were never accounted for. Just what do you Moore-Ons think happened to them? They vanished into thin air? The gullibility is astonishing.

What I would like is for one Moore-On to explain to me this. We know he had weapons--even all the Democrats agree on this. He never provided any evidence to the inspectors as to what happened to them. So then, what happened to them? Where are they?

Exactly, we KNOW he had them, he committed horrible crimes on his own people with them...we just don't know where they are now...

[linskyjack]

Idiot, for the tenth time---the reports that were fed to the country, and the Congress completely ignored ANY intelligence that said there were no WMDS! This was a plot by the Neo-Cons, led by Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld to put their whacky theories to the test. Go do a search because I refuse to site once again those who told Bush and the right wing cabal that there were no WMDS. Mulder, you are such a character study. I have watched you debate this issue--When you realized the WMD's weren't there (because you too were fed bad information by the administration) you shifted into the liberation of the Iraqi people mode. Now, you are back to the WMDS mode! Mulder it must be hard trying to rationalize the irrational.

[Gibble]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Idiot, for the tenth time---the reports that were fed to the country, and the Congress completely ignored ANY intelligence that said there were no WMDS! This was a plot by the Neo-Cons, led by Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld to put their whacky theories to the test. Go do a search because I refuse to site once again those who told Bush and the right wing cabal that there were no WMDS. Mulder, you are such a character study. I have watched you debate this issue--When you realized the WMD's weren't there (because you too were fed bad information by the administration) you shifted into the liberation of the Iraqi people mode. Now, you are back to the WMDS mode! Mulder it must be hard trying to rationalize the irrational.

Are you saying this didn't happen?
http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by TooBad

Yep, your 20/20 hindsight is accurate. Where were you when everyone including Saddam thought he had them?

Your post makes no sense.
Not every one was onboard on the existence of WMD.
Saddam claimed there were no WMD's in response to Bush's demands, although I would not have taken his word for it......you claim is incorrect.
The UN was reporting there were no WMD's right up to the time Bush expelled the UN inspectors from Iraq with the warnings of his intent to invade Iraq.


But that is neither here nor there........Bush is still a moron
And the hazards of a moron deciding the foreign policies of a powerful nation are painfully obvious today.
But I won't let Congress off the hook either, they were fools to follow a moron

[linskyjack]

Absolutely Stoner---they showed (Democrats) utter cowardice in going along with the madness of Bush. The Republicans should have been expected too.

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Mulder

Only a Moore-On would believe Hussein didn't have WMDs. The guy gassed his own people--he used them--they were never accounted for. Just what do you Moore-Ons think happened to them? They vanished into thin air? The gullibility is astonishing.

What I would like is for one Moore-On to explain to me this. We know he had weapons--even all the Democrats agree on this. He never provided any evidence to the inspectors as to what happened to them. So then, what happened to them? Where are they?

You continue to be confused
Well, keep looking for 'them' is all I can say

The Bush claims have been disproven, the UN investigators that Bush drove out of Iraq didn't find the claims of WMD and Bush has not found any either.


You guys on the extreme right need to come to grips and just admit you screwed up.
You attacked the wrong enemy , went oil prospecting with M1 tanks and now whine and cry after things get tough that you don't have enough backing to get the 'job' done.

Oh yeah, and about Saddam learning the trade of 'gassing'.............