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This was amusing-should bartenders really be required to wear makeup?


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14-May-2005, 10:09 PM #1
This was amusing-should bartenders really be required to wear makeup?
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U.S. court to rehear bartender's lipstick lawsuit

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SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A federal appeals court agreed on Friday to reconsider the case of a female bartender who was fired from her job at a Nevada casino for refusing to wear lipstick, blush and other make-up.

Alleging sex discrimination, Darlene Jespersen sued her employer, Harrah's Entertainment Inc. , after it dismissed her in 2000 for refusing to comply with a policy that required women to wear makeup.

In December, Jespersen's case was dismissed by a three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which said the policy was legal. Without comment, the court reversed the ruling on Friday and ordered the case to be reheard by an 11-judge panel.

Jespersen's attorney said the case of the 20-year Harrah's veteran could determine the rights of women in service professions to choose how to present themselves.

"What makes it discriminatory is that it requires women to present themselves in a particularly feminine way," said the attorney, Jennifer Pizer of Lambda Legal in Los Angeles.

Jespersen started work at Harrah's in 1979 as a dishwasher before being promoted to work as a bartender helper and then as a full bartender. Jespersen felt deeply uncomfortable wearing the foundation, lip stick, blush and mascara that her employer required, her attorney said.

Harrah's implemented a mandatory policy that it called "Beverage Department Image Transformation," which required, among other things, that women wear makeup. After refusing to comply with the policy, Jespersen was fired in 2000.

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14-May-2005, 10:17 PM #2
Hmmmm tough question. Tell me what you think first.
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14-May-2005, 10:19 PM #3
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This was amusing-should bartenders really be required to wear makeup?
Lol, only the women...

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14-May-2005, 10:26 PM #4
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What do you think?
Leave it to you teengeek , to bring up the most difficult labor questions
I think the first ruling by the 9th , will be the one that stands.
I can think of some Union jokes---but they wouldn't be appropiate! >f
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14-May-2005, 10:27 PM #5
lol

I suppose that bartending is a business where it is important for a woman to look her best and wear lots of makeup. I don't think it shoiuld have been brought into court. But let's just say this: If the woman looks okay au naturel, I'm not sure what the problem is. If she needs makeup to not look like a hag, then... there's a problem.

But then again, shouldn't a woman who is getting into the bartending business know that makeup is kind of a must when you are serving men in a bar?
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14-May-2005, 10:27 PM #6
This is pretty stupid. I'm sorry--I'm pretty liberal but this demand would ruin the whole feel of the casino. Casinos are fantasy lands where people want to escape into another world. Next thing they will be suing for a woman's right not to wear a revealing toga at Caesar's palace. Can you imagine going to Caesars Palace and being served your drink by a woman in a pair of jeans and sneakers?
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14-May-2005, 10:28 PM #7
No.
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14-May-2005, 10:40 PM #8
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This is pretty stupid. I'm sorry--I'm pretty liberal but this demand would ruin the whole feel of the casino. Casinos are fantasy lands where people want to escape into another world. Next thing they will be suing for a woman's right not to wear a revealing toga at Caesar's palace. Can you imagine going to Caesars Palace and being served your drink by a woman in a pair of jeans and sneakers?
LOL!!. Of course these things become murky and common sense should prevail. Should a stripper that no one wants to look at ---be employed as a stripper?
I always try to avoid these questions as you have. >f
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14-May-2005, 10:46 PM #9
I agree it was really stupid. That's why I posted it. I wanted to see who else thought it was stupid.

Again, don't listen to the insane whackjob typing this... I'm just a nutso band geek.. **MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA**
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14-May-2005, 10:50 PM #10
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This is pretty stupid. I'm sorry--I'm pretty liberal ...........
Yes it is stupid but no need to apologize just listen to Mulder and I, we'll cure you of being a liberal.

But aren't you the guy who claimed to a moderate? I know, you're moderately liberal.
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14-May-2005, 10:52 PM #11
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Yes it is stupid but no need to apologize just listen to Mulder and I, we'll cure you of being a liberal.

But aren't you the guy who claimed to a moderate? I know, you're moderately liberal.

That would definately be case where the cure is worse then the disease.
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14-May-2005, 10:53 PM #12
ROFL
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That would definately be case where the cure is worse then the disease.

Don't worry it won't hurt....much. Just like your momma use to do, we'll hold your nose and pour the caster(sp?) oil right down. You'll be cleaned out in about a day.
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14-May-2005, 11:05 PM #14
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Don't worry it won't hurt....much. Just like your momma use to do, we'll hold your nose and pour the caster(sp?) oil right down. You'll be cleaned out in about a day.
and his {linskys} brains will wind up where yours are! >f
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14-May-2005, 11:17 PM #15
LOL---and we don't want that!
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