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Live8: Do we need it?

 
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18-Jun-2005, 07:01 PM #91
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24-Jun-2005, 06:10 AM #92
Noel Gallagher - in charecteristic style - has made a rather blunt but valid point about some of the artistic content of the show, and how it might seem somewhat irrelevant to what they're trying to achieve. Though in doing so he might well be expressing similar sentiments that his arch rival Damon Albarn has in recent weeks - but in a different way, which is a funny irony really. Having some representative music on the programme might be a bit more appropriate than some of the stuff they're putting on. I don't agree that it's all a waste of time though - and a lot of people will see the event as a voice expressing what they believe to be right.
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26-Jun-2005, 11:35 AM #93
There is one thing about this though that doesn't add up - if he's not exactly convinced it's going to make a difference why are Oasis playing it?
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26-Jun-2005, 11:44 AM #94
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There is one thing about this though that doesn't add up - if he's not exactly convinced it's going to make a difference why are Oasis playing it?
Or at least they were when it was initially announced.
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01-Jul-2005, 06:38 AM #95
One thing that bothers me about all the hype and hoo hah is how many people actually know what all of this is about. Yesterday I met a guy wearing a 'Solidarnosc' T shirt - which was cool. I used to have one in the early 80s - but T shirts get grotty after a few years and it joined the great laundry in the sky. Since then I've been wanting to get another one, so asked him where he got his. He told me - but in the conversation explained that he only found out that 'Solidarnosc' was the famous Polish trade union 'Solidarity' after he'd had it for a few weeks.

Is there a danger that in all the trendiness the point of it all is somewhat lost, and there are those who support it because their fave band(s) are involved rather than rectifying the injustice of poverty. I might well be in the situation that I won't be able to attend the demo in Edinburgh because of my own poverty in the UK (admittedly nothing like that experienced in the developing world). I guess I could always install myself in the main street wearing my own (well preserved) anti-poverty T-shirt from 1999 and carrying the anti-poverty placard, telling people about a campaign 6 years earlier. Perhaps I could get people to bring along their various political and campaign garb - explaining to them what it all means. LOL
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01-Jul-2005, 08:29 AM #96
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Do we need it? Well I certainly don't need "Bob the Gob" effing & blinding every 5 mins on my TV
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OMG lol wise up, there is a lot worse than Bob that dont f and blind on tv that are complete *****
The man in real decent, who cares if he lets out a few f words?

So anyway I didnt read through all the posts, but is it worth it?

Of course it is!!!!!
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02-Jul-2005, 05:43 AM #97
Hear hear. The amount of crappy things that happen in the world and to people living in it is enough to make anyone use the occasional F word from time to time! The ones who don't - who just sort of calmly go along with it - are infinately worse because they probably couldn't care less about what might be happening and just think of themselves all the time. They're empty and cold - and when someone like Bob Geldof gets angry enough at injustice to want to use the occasional expletive shows that he isn't a selfish 'musn't upset the boss' person so good for him! The world could/probably is drown(ing) in phoney fake politeness and it needs people like him to tell all those bland yes men/women where to get off from time to time.

If it had been left to the politese set who conspire to make our lives as dull, bland, uninspiring and unquestioning as possible then I doubt anything would be done at all.
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02-Jul-2005, 08:39 AM #98
well said
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02-Jul-2005, 10:59 AM #99
i have put in 3 months last year working with MSF in afghanistan. contribution to making the world a better place boils down to the individual. i wonder if madonna or stevie wonder or elton john would be willing to do what i, and thousands of other volunteers do
i dont know about live8, but im getting to see pink floyd live. woooohooooo.
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02-Jul-2005, 01:39 PM #100
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when someone like Bob Geldof gets angry enough at injustice to want to use the occasional expletive shows that he isn't a selfish 'musn't upset the boss' person so good for him!
IYO. IMO it's become a tedious tool.
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03-Jul-2005, 06:13 AM #101
You should be more worried about snopp dog giving it 100% at 6:30 in last nights show
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You should be more worried about snopp dog giving it 100% at 6:30 in last nights show
Agreed that did make one sit up & take notice. ( )

FTR, the word doesn't outrage me. But with BG, it just makes it "once again, there he goes (zzz)" ; for me, anyway.

I expect I'll get flak now for being negative.
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03-Jul-2005, 06:57 AM #103
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OMG lol wise up, there is a lot worse than Bob that dont f and blind on tv that are complete *****
The man in real decent, who cares if he lets out a few f words?

So anyway I didnt read through all the posts, but is it worth it?

Of course it is!!!!!
I didn't read through all of the posts either.
I have a question. How could we create awareness of the problem he is addressing if he isn't going to address it for us? If you have someone in the position to do so, regardless of the cause, do you not think that we should take advantage of it?
This problem has been going on for some time, with no indication of development toward a better way. Somebody had to make a stand, or even a noise to show these leaders that the world (or a good part of it) is not happy.
Bob Geldof was not there to raise money, or even make money. His aim is quite pure. Create that awareness, and show the G8 leaders that a great number of people feel this way.
Sure, we've had Live Aid etc., which, for all intents and purposes did its job, and I too thought 'perhaps we've reached saturation point with all of these do-good' type escapades', but after serious thought I came to the conclusion that yes, we should have it. We need to make a stand - a protest of sorts on a global scale. What better way to do it than with music, in a controlled atmosphere - and with no interjetions. Nobody to stop 'the voice of the world'.
He has given the people their say in the most appropriate way he knows how - now it's up to G8 to do something about it.
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03-Jul-2005, 02:57 PM #104
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I might well be in the situation that I won't be able to attend the demo in Edinburgh because of my own poverty in the UK.
. Tell you what ; I won't change my view that BG's a PITA. But Bristol > Glasgow = £66 rtn on National Express. I'll chip in a tenner if you can persuade TRS-80 vet to shut the hell up elsewhere in this forum.
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. Tell you what ; I won't change my view that BG's a PITA. But Bristol > Glasgow = £66 rtn on National Express. I'll chip in a tenner if you can persuade TRS-80 vet to shut the hell up elsewhere in this forum.
That would take an act of god.
 

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