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10-Aug-2005, 10:10 AM #1
How a cow from 1937 caused the Iraq war
How a cow from 1937 caused the Iraq war
The US gave Saddam Hussein anthrax, writes Dominic Kennedy in London
10aug05

A BRITISH cow that died in a field in Oxfordshire, west of London, in 1937 has emerged as the source of Saddam Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction" program that led to the Iraq war.

An ear from the cow was sent to an English laboratory, where scientists discovered anthrax spores that were later used in secret biological warfare tests ordered by Winston Churchill.

The culture was sent to the US, which exported samples to Iraq during Saddam's war against Iran in the 1980s.

Inspectors have found that this batch of anthrax was the dictator's choice in his attempts to create biological weapons.

The discovery has angered some British politicians.

Labour MP Austin Mitchell has renewed his call, supported by 126 MPs in the last parliament, for a UN investigation into whether Washington broke a weapons control agreement.

"It just makes them look more hypocritical than ever," he said.

The odyssey of the Iraqi anthrax was unravelled by Geoffrey Holland, a politics student and anti-war campaigner at the University of Sussex.

The exact batch chosen by Saddam was disclosed in the CIA report by former UN weapons inspector Charles Duelfer last year. "Iraq declared researching different strains of B.anthracis, but settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive strain for use as a BW (biological weapon)," Mr Duelfer said.

A congressional investigation into gulf war syndrome by Don Riegle had already uncovered invoices showing that this batch was shipped from the US between 1986 and 1988.

The ATCC is a private non-profit-making organisation based in Virginia, where its collection of cultures of living micro-organisms, viruses, plants and human and animal cells is stored.

Its catalogue shows that batch 14578 consists of "bovine anthrax", isolated by R.L.Vollum, a professor of bacteriology at Oxford University during the 1930s. It is named after him.

Martin Hugh-Jones, who co-ordinates the World Health Organisation's working group on anthrax research and control, confirmed the British connection.

"Somewhere in south Oxfordshire a cow died of anthrax," he said. "An ear from this dead cow was referred to Compton (agricultural research field station in Berkshire). They recovered anthrax from it.

"Professor Vollum needed a culture for his classes. He asked around. We have traced it back and it would have come in on some contaminated bones from Southern Rhodesia.

"England was importing sun-dried bones from dead animals in the colonies. They would be shipped to London and used to make soap. When they got the fat out, (the bones) were meant to be sterilised and ground as bone meal and fed to cattle. The sterilisation was not always complete. It was the major cause of anthrax for almost 100 years."

The Vollum anthrax was used in biological weapons tests in 1942 on the Scottish island of Gruinard, which had to be quarantined for 48 years.


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Weird. Weird weird weird. Weird. Thanks deh!
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10-Aug-2005, 10:35 AM #3
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How a cow from 1937 caused the Iraq war
The US gave Saddam Hussein anthrax, writes Dominic Kennedy in London
10aug05

A BRITISH cow that died in a field in Oxfordshire, west of London, in 1937 has emerged as the source of Saddam Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction" program that led to the Iraq war.

An ear from the cow was sent to an English laboratory, where scientists discovered anthrax spores that were later used in secret biological warfare tests ordered by Winston Churchill.

The culture was sent to the US, which exported samples to Iraq during Saddam's war against Iran in the 1980s.

Inspectors have found that this batch of anthrax was the dictator's choice in his attempts to create biological weapons.

The discovery has angered some British politicians.

Labour MP Austin Mitchell has renewed his call, supported by 126 MPs in the last parliament, for a UN investigation into whether Washington broke a weapons control agreement.

"It just makes them look more hypocritical than ever," he said.

The odyssey of the Iraqi anthrax was unravelled by Geoffrey Holland, a politics student and anti-war campaigner at the University of Sussex.

The exact batch chosen by Saddam was disclosed in the CIA report by former UN weapons inspector Charles Duelfer last year. "Iraq declared researching different strains of B.anthracis, but settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive strain for use as a BW (biological weapon)," Mr Duelfer said.

A congressional investigation into gulf war syndrome by Don Riegle had already uncovered invoices showing that this batch was shipped from the US between 1986 and 1988.

The ATCC is a private non-profit-making organisation based in Virginia, where its collection of cultures of living micro-organisms, viruses, plants and human and animal cells is stored.

Its catalogue shows that batch 14578 consists of "bovine anthrax", isolated by R.L.Vollum, a professor of bacteriology at Oxford University during the 1930s. It is named after him.

Martin Hugh-Jones, who co-ordinates the World Health Organisation's working group on anthrax research and control, confirmed the British connection.

"Somewhere in south Oxfordshire a cow died of anthrax," he said. "An ear from this dead cow was referred to Compton (agricultural research field station in Berkshire). They recovered anthrax from it.

"Professor Vollum needed a culture for his classes. He asked around. We have traced it back and it would have come in on some contaminated bones from Southern Rhodesia.

"England was importing sun-dried bones from dead animals in the colonies. They would be shipped to London and used to make soap. When they got the fat out, (the bones) were meant to be sterilised and ground as bone meal and fed to cattle. The sterilisation was not always complete. It was the major cause of anthrax for almost 100 years."

The Vollum anthrax was used in biological weapons tests in 1942 on the Scottish island of Gruinard, which had to be quarantined for 48 years.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E2703,00.html

Kinda puts a spin on chaos theory, doesn't it? A cow farts in 1937 hence US invades Iraq...
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10-Aug-2005, 03:53 PM #4
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Silly me - I thought it was democratic rights for iraqi oil.

- Still assuming you don't get the position of Professor of Modern History at Harvard ... I have two cousins on army patrol on the streets of Basra with the British army.

Any time you want to trade in your Chairborne Commando wings and swap with them - let me know, superstar.

Unless you want to stay where you are safe n sound and let american women fight while you type.
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10-Aug-2005, 04:11 PM #5
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How a cow from 1937 caused the Iraq war
The US gave Saddam Hussein anthrax, writes Dominic Kennedy in London
10aug05

A BRITISH cow that died in a field in Oxfordshire, west of London, in 1937 has emerged as the source of Saddam Hussein's "weapons of mass destruction" program that led to the Iraq war.

An ear from the cow was sent to an English laboratory, where scientists discovered anthrax spores that were later used in secret biological warfare tests ordered by Winston Churchill.

The culture was sent to the US, which exported samples to Iraq during Saddam's war against Iran in the 1980s.

Inspectors have found that this batch of anthrax was the dictator's choice in his attempts to create biological weapons.

The discovery has angered some British politicians.

Labour MP Austin Mitchell has renewed his call, supported by 126 MPs in the last parliament, for a UN investigation into whether Washington broke a weapons control agreement.

"It just makes them look more hypocritical than ever," he said.

The odyssey of the Iraqi anthrax was unravelled by Geoffrey Holland, a politics student and anti-war campaigner at the University of Sussex.

The exact batch chosen by Saddam was disclosed in the CIA report by former UN weapons inspector Charles Duelfer last year. "Iraq declared researching different strains of B.anthracis, but settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive strain for use as a BW (biological weapon)," Mr Duelfer said.

A congressional investigation into gulf war syndrome by Don Riegle had already uncovered invoices showing that this batch was shipped from the US between 1986 and 1988.

The ATCC is a private non-profit-making organisation based in Virginia, where its collection of cultures of living micro-organisms, viruses, plants and human and animal cells is stored.

Its catalogue shows that batch 14578 consists of "bovine anthrax", isolated by R.L.Vollum, a professor of bacteriology at Oxford University during the 1930s. It is named after him.

Martin Hugh-Jones, who co-ordinates the World Health Organisation's working group on anthrax research and control, confirmed the British connection.

"Somewhere in south Oxfordshire a cow died of anthrax," he said. "An ear from this dead cow was referred to Compton (agricultural research field station in Berkshire). They recovered anthrax from it.

"Professor Vollum needed a culture for his classes. He asked around. We have traced it back and it would have come in on some contaminated bones from Southern Rhodesia.

"England was importing sun-dried bones from dead animals in the colonies. They would be shipped to London and used to make soap. When they got the fat out, (the bones) were meant to be sterilised and ground as bone meal and fed to cattle. The sterilisation was not always complete. It was the major cause of anthrax for almost 100 years."

The Vollum anthrax was used in biological weapons tests in 1942 on the Scottish island of Gruinard, which had to be quarantined for 48 years.


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Interesting deh!

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I believe it is a reference to arms shipments to the Iraqi regime during that period.

Though as stated elsehere - a number of countries will be in for a rude awakening whwn the full extent of western arms deals with Iraq are uncovered during Saddam's trial.
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I believe it is a reference to arms shipments to the Iraqi regime during that period.

Though as stated elsehere - a number of countries will be in for a rude awakening whwn the full extent of western arms deals with Iraq are uncovered during Saddam's trial.
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I have two german friends living here in the UK - after having reminded them that the only way germans will ever get here is as tourists - I pointed them to a link on the web that indicated over 600 german companies exported chemicals vital to chemical warfare.

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10-Aug-2005, 04:28 PM #10
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Unless you want to stay where you are safe n sound and let american women fight while you type.
Do I get to "welcome" them home?
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Do I get to "welcome" them home?
I believe Ms England is already home

Do you need directions to Leavenworth ?

PS - Have you seen your birthday thread elsewhere here yet ?
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I believe Ms England is already home

Do you need directions to Leavenworth ?

PS - Have you seen your birthday thread elsewhere here yet ?
Given the concept of dental health in England I'll pass ( ). I don't understand the reference to Leavenworth.

I saw it a few days ago, guess I owe Val a big raspberry.
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I thught that was where Lynndie England was currently being accommodated after her performance at Abu Grubby.
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Silly me - I thought it was democratic rights for iraqi oil.

- Still assuming you don't get the position of Professor of Modern History at Harvard ... I have two cousins on army patrol on the streets of Basra with the British army.

Any time you want to trade in your Chairborne Commando wings and swap with them - let me know, superstar.

Unless you want to stay where you are safe n sound and let american women fight while you type.
Hey--although I disagree with your support of the war, I am in complete agreement with your call for the chicken hawks to get off their lazy butts and put their lives on the line for FREEDOM!
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I thught that was where Lynndie England was currently being accommodated after her performance at Abu Grubby.
Silly me, I took the reference to Ms. England as someone from England. I doubt she is in Leavenworth, could be but I doubt it.
 

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