[slickoe]

DHS and AOL: An Unholy Alliance

October 3, 2005
by Martin McKinney
The Financial Reporter (U.K.)

Washington- The American-based internet giant, AOL, wholly-owned by Time-Warner, has formed a working partnership with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to permit unlimited surveillance of the millions of AOL online members, according to a report from the U.S. Department of Commerce.

“AOL works ‘closely with the DHS’ to supply information on any AOL customer and allows agents from these entities ‘free and unfettered’ access to AOL Hq at Dulles, VA for the purpose of ‘watching over and keeping surveillance ’ on the millions of AOL customers,’ according to the report.

The legal basis for this is the recently Congress-approved Patriot Act which permits warrantless searches of persons and property. While information gleaned from delving into personal computer messages is supposed to be kept confidential, it appears that the DHS has exceeded their brief and obtained what appears to be strictly personal information which is then circulated to entities outside the DHS.

The Department of Commerce report also states that news of this surveillance has leaked out and is causing serious concern in the American, and European, business communities who are fearful that trade secrets may be given to other business entities, considered as “friendly” to the Bush Administration.
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This is the thin end of the wedge. If our e-mails can be read at will, why not our snail-mails? All business records? What is stopping all warrantless searches? We already know that American citizens can be held without trial or charge indefinitely, and that we can ignore the Geneva Convention at will.

[GoneForNow]

How about a link to the article. If you have it available how about a link to the alleged report from the Dept. of Commerce.

[slickoe]

How about you google the Financial Reporter yourself? I'm not going to research for you if you think I just typed up an article and added a byline because I have nothing better to do. BTW, this surveillance includes reading the CONTENTS of your e-mails; reading any online CHAT you take part in or even view, your complete web surfing history and more.

[slickoe]

Originally Posted by gbrumb

How about a link to the article. If you have it available how about a link to the alleged report from the Dept. of Commerce.

Are you the kind of lawyer who stands over a bleeding corpse next to mangled wreckage and says, "now about this alleged accident...."


here you go, alleged lawyer.......http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1902.htm

[Stoner]

Hmmmm, I tried to google 'The Financial Reporter' and didn't see any hits right off, slickoe, but I did find this interesting article at the same site you posted:

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1909.htm

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by slickoe

Are you the kind of lawyer who stands over a bleeding corpse next to mangled wreckage and says, "now about this alleged accident...."


here you go, alleged lawyer.......http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1902.htm

Sorry, you want to post any unsubstantiated article feel free I can, however, ask to see what the article is based upon.

Guess what, the "accident" could have been intentional and thus not an "accident".

[alex_holker]

Originally Posted by slickoe

Are you the kind of lawyer who stands over a bleeding corpse next to mangled wreckage and says, "now about this alleged accident...."

here you go, alleged lawyer.......http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1902.htm

Gbrumb's concern is valid: your link is not from the original source and provides no links to the original articles. Google does not have any evidence that the original article exists. The only sites found that feature "The financial reporter" and "Martin McKinney" are the ones discussing this particular article.

It certainly looks false.

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by alex_holker

Gbrumb's concern is valid: your link is not from the original source and provides no links to the original articles. Google does not have any evidence that the original article exists. The only sites found that feature "The financial reporter" and "Martin McKinney" are the ones discussing this particular article.

It certainly looks false.

I also went to the US Dept. of Commerce web site and could not locate such a report. I will admit that I'm not the greatest researcher but until I see an actual report from the Commerce Dept. that states what the article claims it states the assertion in the "news" article is highly suspect. And that ain't no accident bleeding body, or not.

[Stoner]

Well, I found a blogger( LINK ) that claims the TBRNews somehow got that article from 'The Randi Rhoades Radio Show'.( LINK ).......



Heard it on the radio ...........

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Hmmmm, I tried to google 'The Financial Reporter' and didn't see any hits right off, slickoe, but I did find this interesting article at the same site you posted:

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1909.htm

Did you notice that the spaceship article was located in, I kid you not, the "Intelligence Corner".

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Well, I found a blogger( LINK ) that claims the TBRNews somehow got that article from 'The Randi Rhoades Radio Show'.( LINK ).......



Heard it on the radio ...........

Except if you go to the Randi Rhodes Show site it links you back to TBRNews and the mysterious The Financial Reporter (U.K.).

[Stoner]

Bloggers.....

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Bloggers.....

Yeah, found the same story HERE. and guess what? It links you back to TBRNews. Does anyone see a pattern here or is it just me?
That poor mangled body must have been in accident.

[slickoe]

So is the patriot act a red herring also? And AOL is NOT cooperating with DHS?

From TBRnews:
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Listing of TBRnews sources

ABC News :: Agence France Presse :: American Conservative :: BBC :: Boston Globe :: CBS News :: Chicago Tribune :: Christian Science Monitor :: CNN :: Council on Foreign Relations :: Debka :: Financial Times :: Forbes Magazine :: Human Events :: Investors Business Daily :: Jerusalem Post :: Los Angeles Times :: MSNBC :: The Nation :: The National Review :: Neue Zuricher Zeitung :: The New Republic :: Pravda :: The New York Times :: Newsweek :: New York Press :: The Onion :: Tom Paine :: Reuters :: Whitehouse.org :: Time :: Toronto Globe & Mail :: Daily Mirror :: Evening Standard :: The Guardian :: The London Times :: US News & World Report :: The Washington Post


What is TBRnews?

TBRnews is a compendium of political articles, many gathered from prestigious foreign sources as well as from American news web postings.

The name, TBRnews, originally came from the Barnes Review magazine and the site began as a listing of historical books.

Under different management, it eventually progressed to a twice-weekly posting covering national and international news.

We have been accused of being neo-Nazis, Communists, anti-Semites, Christian haters, certainly not Bush friendly and guilty of treason, aggravated mopery, theft of mattress tags from cheap motels, chronic jaywalking and disturbers of the political peace.

I run this site all by myself with a little help from various friends, both inside and outside of the Beltway.

The articles not otherwise credited are usually written by myself although I do not take credit for them. The articles speak for themselves and I do not believe in beating my own drum as so many other journalists seem to enjoy doing. The message is always important; not so the messenger.

I try to answer reasonable mail and encourage the reading public to submit articles of interest. I am known to publish pieces that I do not personally agree with but which I feel are well-written and worth reading.

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There does not seem to be much moderation left after the Bush people finished polarizing the electorate.

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The conclusions are obvious here.

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[GoneForNow]

I'll withhold judgment until review of the report from the Commerce Dept. or those Nazi flying saucers show up, whichever occurs first.