[Mulderator]

Looks like libs are gonna be eatin some crow real soon!

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu...02/188299.html

Bush lied, people died?
Mar 2, 2006
by Larry Elder ( bio | archive | contact )

I recently interviewed General Georges Sada, who served as the second-highest ranked general in the Iraqi Air Force. A two-star general, he wrote a recently published book called "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein." Here are some sound bites from that interview:
Elder: General, as you know, the president has been accused of lying about the intelligence, fabricating it, cherry-picking it, that he wanted to go to war, he really didn't believe that Saddam had WMD. It was all a big smokescreen. When you hear people accuse the president of lying about WMD, of misleading the country and the world, your reaction, Gen. Georges Sada, is what?

Sada: Let me tell you. I am really surprised how people are speaking like this and their soldiers are still in the battle. You see, a soldier when he is in battle, he wants to feel that all his nation are backing him and they are with him. And now I tell you I feel very sorry when I see some people in this country, their soldiers are in the battle, and they are discussing political things making that soldier to feel that he is there in the wrong place. That's one. Second, if there was something right had been done in this country, it was the best decision taken in the proper time, to go and liberate Iraq from an evil dictatorship who only God knows what he was going to do in the region, and maybe even to America, because that man was possessing the weapons of mass destruction and then he was with very evil intentions towards all the West, especially America.

Elder: Fifteen months before we invaded Iraq, the president began talking about what our intentions would be if Saddam would not comply with the U.N. resolutions. During those 15 months . . . did Saddam have WMD, have stockpiles of WMD, and, if so, what type?


Sada: Iraq possessed WMD and they were there, and they were chemical and biological, and nuclear weapons. He have also deals with China to make it in China this time, not in Iraq, because F-16s of Israelis have destroyed the Iraqi nuclear project, therefore, he designed a new system to have the atom bomb to be done in China, and he would only pay the money, and he did for $100 million, and $5 million were paid for down payment. I know the bank, I know the branch, and I know the accountant who did it.

Elder: What happened to the chemical and biological weapons?

Sada: The chemical and biological weapons were available in Iraq before liberating the country, but Saddam Hussein took the advantage of a natural disaster that happened in Syria when a dam was collapsed and many villages were flooded. So Saddam Hussein took that cover and declared to the world that he is going to use the civilian aircraft for an air bridge to help Syria with blankets, food and fuel oil, and other humanitarian things, but that was not true. The truth is he converted two regular passenger civilian aircraft, 747 Jumbo and 727 . . . all the weapons of mass destruction were put there by the special Republican Guards in a very secret way, and they were transported to Syria, to Damascus, by flying 56 flights to Damascus. . . . In addition . . . also a truck convoy on the ground to take whatever has to do with WMD to Syria.

Elder: I've always thought it incredible, bizarre, unbelievable, that our intelligence could have been wrong, British intelligence could have been wrong, the French, the Germans, the Russians, the U.N., the Egyptians, the Jordanians, all of whom thought he had WMD. I never felt comfortable with the idea that everybody got it wrong. . . .

Sada: Your intelligence said that Saddam Hussein had WMD. . . . I agree with them. They were there in Iraq. But they didn't find them after liberation of Iraq, because they were searching not in the right place. These things were transported by air and by ground.

Elder: General, why would Saddam, knowing we were about ready to invade, transfer WMD out of the country instead of using it on American and coalition troops?

Sada: Because he knew that the power of America to liberate the country is more than what he can do. And maybe not all WMD were ready to use then. And that's why he transported to Syria and he thought that he's going to maintain in the power as he was maintained in 1991 and then he was going to get it back again and then proceed to complete the whole project of WMD.

"Bush lied, people died"?

More to come . . .

[linskyjack]

Yes, thats who we should trust---A former Iraqi General who would have absolutey no reason to ingratiate himself to this administration! Sounds like Chalabi revisited! For a fairly intelligent person you really are naive.

[Fidelista]

Get a grip on yourself Mulder! LOL!.
I thought you didn't buy into wild conspiracy stories
There are so many holes in this mans story, it makes me extremely doubtful of his honesty.
I don't think I even have to point out the probablity that if true---he would be far from alone in making these statements.
Iraq possessed Nuclear weapons? >>>> Sada: Iraq possessed WMD and they were there, and they were chemical and biological, and NUCLEAR weapons.<<<. I doubt it--more than doubt it.
Its just too hard to completely hide---too many people involved to make program work without people spilling beans. After military disaster -- they stand in line to tell stories.
56 flights? Jumbo jets? ect ect, and only he speaks, knows of this? . No Intel knew--or has been able to uncover the truth?.
So , we are reduced to believing one Iraqi selling books? .
I don't blame him however, everybody needs to make a living.
And what of this ? >>> he designed a new system to have the atom bomb to be done in China, and he would only pay the money, and HE DID for $100 million, and $5 million were paid for down payment. I know the bank, I know the branch, and I know the accountant who did <<<<
What if true? . If China is selling nuclear weapons to "terrorists" , would this affect trade with Wal~Mart?
I make fun, but I know conspiracies are real, done all the time , in many ways. I even engage in them in a small way.
The thing is , I also know human nature. A secret held by a few -- can work.
Something like this , not likely.
Mulder, honest question, do you defend conservative ideals , or is there something about Bush that really motivates you?.
The reason I ask is that most of your ideas make sense---even though I may disagree with them---political --personal differences.
But....when it comes Mr Bush, you seem to go to extremes to defend. I am curious.
>f

[nomaan]

what happened to those NO FLY ZONES in the north and south of the country. i find it hard to believe this can happen under the noses of the allied forces.

[ekim68]

I agree Fidelista...There's more than just towing the line...

[linskyjack]

Look at the source of this article----Do you have any idea how many high ranking Iraqi military made deals with Rumsfeld based on them having "important" information. This is like a snitch from prison getting his sentence reduced by fingering an innocent man.

[Rep]

Desperation, more like it.

When this administration has broken the trust of the people, stuff happens to protect it from further decline.

[Stoner]

Buy Sada's new book and find out all the secrets

Matter of fact...it's even titled 'Saddam's Secrets'....

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by Stoner

Buy Sada's new book and find out all the secrets

Matter of fact...it's even titled 'Saddam's Secrets'....

Monte Steele wrote one better on the subject--Atomic weapons
More informative I bet!. >f

[Stoner]

I bet, too

[Mulderator]

Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaah! LOL. Let me get this straight. I've got you liberal whack-jobs who believe every possible absurd conspiracy theory you come across about Bush and you have the ball$ to accuse me of buying into nonsense.

Look, yeah--this is unlikely to be true. But its more likel to be true than most of the stuff you tin foil hats post here, most recently the moronic nonsense about Bush lying about the levees breaching--that's about one half a notch above him blowing them up himself!

Moore-Ons!

[ChrisJones]

Originally Posted by Mulder

Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaah! LOL. Let me get this straight. I've got you liberal whack-jobs who believe every possible absurd conspiracy theory you come across about Bush and you have the ball$ to accuse me of buying into nonsense.

Look, yeah--this is unlikely to be true. But its more likel to be true than most of the stuff you tin foil hats post here, most recently the moronic nonsense about Bush lying about the levees breaching--that's about one half a notch above him blowing them up himself!

Moore-Ons!

So why bother posting it? If the "liberals" found a former Iraqi General who said Iraq catagorically had NO WMD's you'd be saying he's full of $hit!!

Now, back to the story of Mr Bush causing Hurricane Katrina with some sort of device in Alaska....

[Stoner]

Originally Posted by Mulder

Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaah! LOL. Let me get this straight. I've got you liberal whack-jobs who believe every possible absurd conspiracy theory you come across about Bush and you have the ball$ to accuse me of buying into nonsense.

Look, yeah--this is unlikely to be true. But its more likel to be true than most of the stuff you tin foil hats post here, most recently the moronic nonsense about Bush lying about the levees breaching--that's about one half a notch above him blowing them up himself!

Moore-Ons!

Glad I didn't join in on that fun
But anyway, how did Sada positively know those facts?
He does seem rather 'persona non-grata' in Iraq for that time frame
and is very lucky to have escaped the wrath of Saddam in 1991.
From what I did on a quick search, his claims seem to come from
two pilots of that airlift which he doesn't identify.

I guess you do need to buy the book _



Mulder, you really shouldn't give the forum further ideas about Bush blowing up things
He's had so much practice ......_

[holy_saiyan1]

ChrisJones said...
Now, back to the story of Mr Bush causing Hurricane Katrina with some sort of device in Alaska....

You mean HAARP? That's clearly Ronald Ray-gun's "Star Wars" planet destroyer-thingy. Although libs and "Coast to Coast AM" listeners agree that Bush is the cause of the hurricanes, and he eats puppies and babies for breakfast.

Mulder quipped...
most recently the moronic nonsense about Bush lying about the levees breaching--that's about one half a notch above him blowing them up himself!

But he did blow them up himself, remember? If you hear it from Louis Farrakhan, it must be true!

Stoner joshed...
Buy Sada's new book and find out all the secrets
Matter of fact...it's even titled 'Saddam's Secrets'....

Just like how James Risen "broke" the story about the NSA wiretapping people with al-Qaeda ties overseas, just "coincidentally" to coincide with the release of his book about the NSA wiretapping people with al-Qaeda ties overseas? Oh wait, no. He's one of the good guys, cuz his story was against Bush. Silly me.

[Stoner]

Just like how James Risen "broke" the story about the NSA wiretapping people with al-Qaeda ties overseas, just "coincidentally" to coincide with the release of his book about the NSA wiretapping people with al-Qaeda ties overseas? Oh wait, no. He's one of the good guys, cuz his story was against Bush. Silly me.

That's OK.....
I didn't buy his book, either