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14-Jun-2006, 02:30 PM #1
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The government has tried to give away our ports and airlines. Now I hear that the state governments are talking about leasing our Interstate system to foreign entities. I think it is time for a revolution.
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14-Jun-2006, 02:55 PM #4
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The government has tried to give away our ports and airlines. Now I hear that the state governments are talking about leasing our Interstate system to foreign entities. I think it is time for a revolution.
Chuckw,

Do you believe in world trade ? Free markets ? Globalisation ?

Capitalism undepins the American ( and indeed ever free nations economy) .... Foreign companies buying up American companies was a source of anger back in the 1980s, when Japan became the largest investor in America.

There was a phrase bandied about 'We won the war .. they won the peace.'

America lost control of almost all of the leading companies founded in the US, decades ago. Boeing, Gen. Electrics, McDonnell Douglas, Lockheed, IBM, G.M, Ford now rely on huge inward investement from Japan, Europe, and more recently China.

Banks now determine the future of all of your leading companies ... but as is the case with capitalism, they exist to make money for their investors - not to safeguard American jobs, likewise they are not concerned with American 'national security.'

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If you read that American Airlines had bought British Airways, you would very likely not be bothered. So why would you be perturbed if B.A biought A.A ?

We here in Britain are not terrorists, we have fought terrorism here in Britain for decades. We have no desire to, or reason for compromising America in anyway.

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Should the issue of foreign investement cause you nightmares ... how do you think the citizens of other nations feel in other countries when they hear American banks have bought a controlling share in their telecomms, shipping, or other sector ?
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14-Jun-2006, 02:57 PM #5
That is all very interesting. Will the Americas exist only in our imaginations say in a hundred years?
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14-Jun-2006, 03:13 PM #6
I have no qualms about globalization. My concern is the operation of my government to the detriment of its constituents. We pay taxes in many ways to see that our highways are properly maintained. More and more resources are being siphoned off to pay for an unprovoked war in Iraq. Everything from education to health care is going to hell in a handbasket because our taxes are being being used to support that war.
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14-Jun-2006, 03:22 PM #7
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I have no qualms about globalization. My concern is the operation of my government to the detriment of its constituents. We pay taxes in many ways to see that our highways are properly maintained. More and more resources are being siphoned off to pay for an unprovoked war in Iraq. Everything from education to health care is going to hell in a handbasket because our taxes are being being used to support that war.
There is so much in there...I am unsure where to begin. I suppose first, health care is not a Government entity -- and even those that are, namely the VA are doing quite well both by measure of care and funding. As for education, it is quite well funded -- in fact, more than ever and IMO, more than should be -- for I do not see money as the solution to the problem. now the merits of the war in Iraq could very well be hashed out again...sure, with the benefit of hindsight things could have been different....but really, our highways are properly maintained -- and that funding has increased enormously due to the cost of gas, as the fund is percentage based. I don't see how with all the directive progress this country continues to make, that one could logically conclude handbasket hell.
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14-Jun-2006, 03:28 PM #8
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That is all very interesting. Will the Americas exist only in our imaginations say in a hundred years?
Was that addressed to me ?

I'm English. I cannot state what will happen with the US next month, much less a century from now.

How many 'American' Indians knew what the future held when they greeted the people arriving on the The Mayflower ? - Or who were fighting Custer 256 yrs later at 'Little Big Horn.' ?

Nevertheless, the US was built on capitalism - US companies were keen to establish themselves in other nations to expand trade, and increase profits.

Now the reverse is happening, suddenly it's a 'threat to national security.'

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I have no qualms about globalization. My concern is the operation of my government to the detriment of its constituents. We pay taxes in many ways to see that our highways are properly maintained. More and more resources are being siphoned off to pay for an unprovoked war in Iraq. Everything from education to health care is going to hell in a handbasket because our taxes are being being used to support that war.

To reassert my point, your government is not responsible. 'Global' corporations are the ones you should be addressing about the fate of your economy.

Tens of thousands of jobs haemorraghing out of the US to El Salvador, Mexico, Taiwan, or wherever are at the whim of those controlling those companies.

Those responsible, are as I stated, merely acting in the interests of their shareholders.

If they found even cheaper labour in India they would move production there.

Its 'All or nothing.'

Expand and prosper ... or pull up the draw -bridge.
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14-Jun-2006, 03:31 PM #9
Maybe this isn't a conspiracy after all.

New World Order Definition
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The following article is extracted from an excellent analysis of the New World Order by author Ken Adachi which can be found at educate-yourself.org.

The term New World Order (NWO) has been used by numerous politicians through the ages, and is a generic term used to refer to a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda.

Listen to the Zionist* banker, Paul Warburg:

"We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).

Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by two thirds. While the name New World Order is the term most frequently used today to loosely refer to anyone involved in this conspiracy, the study of exactly who makes up this group is a complex and intricate one. For further research sources, please see the side bar on the left.

http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htm
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14-Jun-2006, 03:34 PM #10
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Was that addressed to me ?

I'm English. I cannot state what will happen with the US next month, much less a century from now.

How many 'American' Indians knew what the future held when they greeted the people arriving on the The Mayflower ? - Or who were fighting Custer 256 yrs later at 'Little Big Horn.' ?

Nevertheless, the US was built on capitalism - US companies were keen to establish themselves in other nations to expand trade, and increase profits.

Now the reverse is happening, suddenly it's a 'threat to national security.'




To reassert my point, your government is not responsible. 'Global' corporations are the ones you should be addressing about the fate of your economy.

Tens of thousands of jobs haemorraghing out of the US to El Salvador, Mexico, Taiwan, or wherever are at the whim of those controlling those companies.

Those responsible, are as I stated, merely acting in the interests of their shareholders.

If they found even cheaper labour in India they would move production there.

Its 'All or nothing.'

Expand and prosper ... or pull up the draw -bridge.
the link made me speculate...It jumped my mind, not pointed to anyone...just a thought
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14-Jun-2006, 03:39 PM #11
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14-Jun-2006, 03:42 PM #12
Gabriel,

Though my post was split, since I was answering both youself, and the O.P, we here in England have had the same hand wringing about British hotels , British banks, British Telecomms, and recently the UK FTSE 100 Stock Market ( the British Dow Jones, which actually does more trading than Wall Street, Tokyo, and Hong Kong combined), and this last week about BAA - British Airport Authorities who control our international airports.

The strong gobble the weak.

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15-Jun-2006, 11:23 AM #13
This really becomes quite frightening when the infrastructure of the US is involved. Or even certain companies that Dubl_Helix mentioned that play a role in the security of the US. Certain things should be kept close to the breast.
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15-Jun-2006, 11:35 AM #14
So is it possible that in the future we could be at war with someone who's in charge
of our security?
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So is it possible that in the future we could be at war with someone who's in charge
of our security?
Of course not! The US never changes it's mind about who it's enemies are!

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain ..."
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Way to keep your eye on the ball, Ekim!
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