[mom2inky]

is anyone's "perception" more true than others? "Recognition and interpretation of sensory stimuli based chiefly on memory. The neurological processes by which such recognition and interpretation are effected. Insight, intuition, or knowledge gained by perceiving" If your perception is way different from another in a problem situation, you see black/white/gray and another only sees black/white, where is the compromise to resolving the issue? interpretation, belief or facts to the best that can be obtained for the problem?

[AGCurry]

Hmmm.

The fact of schizophrenia, in which perceptions are dramatically altered, would seem to imply that some people DO have better perception than others.

Of course, you could ask, "How do we know that a schizophrenic's perception is worse? Shouldn't we just say it's different and not try to judge better or worse?"

However, schizophrenics are not happy people. Furthermore, their perceptions are not only different from mine, but different from the vast majority of people.

This is not to say that the majority rules absolutely when it comes to perceptions. Artists's perceptions also differ from the majority, and they often suffer pain from those perceptions; however, we recognize their greatness.

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by mom2inky

is anyone's "perception" more true than others?

Yes.

Originally Posted by mom2inky

If your perception is way different from another in a problem situation, you see black/white/gray and another only sees black/white, where is the compromise to resolving the issue?

Why must there be compromise? If your perceptions really are different, sometimes you are able to find an alternative that involves no compromise whatsoever, but offers a solution that is superior where both parties are concerned to their pre-compromise solutions.

Originally Posted by mom2inky

interpretation, belief or facts to the best that can be obtained for the problem?

Creativity? Non-compromising creativity?

[techman5000]

Originally Posted by mom2inky

is anyone's "perception" more true than others?

No but some are more acceptable to society as a whole than others. "Everyone should be treated equally" is no more true than "everyone with green eyes should be killed at birth"; they're both opinions. But the former is much more acceptable and is therefore held to be "true"

[BanditFlyer]

Thank you for reminding me what little creativity it takes to compromise. I can't tell you how many times in my life a wonderfull problem/opportunity was completely wasted by the insistence of imaginationless idiots on a compromise which was not quite what either side wanted in the first place. Such a "solution", if it can be called that, was worth less to either party than it could or should have been.

Anyone with any imagination (or at least a respect for it(or at least a respect for people who have it)) would have been able to seek a solution that would profit both parties more than a compromise would profit anyone. Only an utter idiot or a prisoner of will resorts to compromise. No one with any sense, or freedom would be so stupid. Compromise is a last resort only, and, even then, not a good one.

Anyone with any experience of life will recall many stories of when they chose to compromise, or lost a deal because a suitable compromise could not be reached, only to discover a few months down the line that compromise was completely unnecessary because value could be found elsewhere which would profit both parties more than a non-compromising deal would have benefitted either party in the first place.

Every now and then I get a gentle reminder to refuse any attempt at compromise. Occasionally, the reminder is not so gentle. Sometimes, life hits you upside the head. Thanks for the gentle reminder. I'll try to make use of it.

[BanditFlyer]

A reminder to me - get to know not just the problem/situation, but also the people involved in it. Buyer wants low, seller wants high. But the buyer also has something he's been trying, unsuccessfully, to get rid of for years, and it happens to be worth an awfull lot to the seller. A partial trade results in both parties getting more than they originally asked for. A compromise would have resulted in both parties getting less than they asked for.

Close the compromise, Open the mouth, open the ears, open the imagination.

[bassetman]

As per your request:

reminder to me - get to know not just the problem/situation,

[mom2inky]

how can we grow, learn, see/feel new ideas, etc. if we are not open to others perceptions/ideas..if either is not harmed, morally, physically or psychologically..each can "let go" of their perception and try the new view/approach/solution. There's not just one side to a mountain!

[poochee]

Originally Posted by mom2inky

how can we grow, learn, see/feel new ideas, etc. if we are not open to others perceptions/ideas..if either is not harmed, morally, physically or psychologically..each can "let go" of their perception and try the new view/approach/solution. There's not just one side to a mountain!

Empathy maybe?

[gotrootdude]

According to research in quantum physics, we exist in a multidimensional space. We know that possibility/probability is the fifth of these dimensions, which can be folded in the sixth. We know from Schrödinger's cat state that probability and reality is based on perception. We also know that dimensions can be folded when placed in higher dimensions. If we assume 10 dimensions or higher, then all possibilities exist, with the probability of being folded together in the 11th. (String theory relies on at least 10 dimensions) Therefore, different perceptions than the norm aren't incorrect, just more in tune with another reality existing simultaneously. The same is also true with religious convictions. No religion can be stated as incorrect, since all possibilities exist in 10 or higher dimensions. Thus, no perception can be viewed as imperfect. The need to be good, or religious, is based off of the "need for self actualization", straight from Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

In fact, what I have posted is the reason why most physicist become more religious the more they learn, and why you have to be a little insane to make a really good physicist.

For further info: http://www.tenthdimension.com/

[Shamou]

deep and powerful stuff gotrootdude...

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by mom2inky

is anyone's "perception" more true than others? "Recognition and interpretation of sensory stimuli based chiefly on memory. The neurological processes by which such recognition and interpretation are effected. Insight, intuition, or knowledge gained by perceiving" If your perception is way different from another in a problem situation, you see black/white/gray and another only sees black/white, where is the compromise to resolving the issue? interpretation, belief or facts to the best that can be obtained for the problem?

I'd love to add my $.02, but have to do it when I have the time to give it the thought it deserves!

See the movie What the Bleep Do We Know!