[Rep]

As you know, the President, two weeks from an election is backing away from his bullheaded position of, "staying the course".

He has discovered that, "staying the course" is no longer popular and his party is in trouble with the electorate over Iraq.

One thing to remember, always remember, is the echo chamber that, "staying the course" produced.

The GOP members of both houses of the U.S. Congress grabbed on to, "stay the course" and mocked anybody with an alternative plan. Everybody that believed a new course of action was needed in Iraq was branded with, "cut and run."

It is that congress that parroted the words of the President loudly, clearly and consistently.

Now they worry for their jobs.

I found the following ad interesting and says it all.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/10/s...e_course_1.php

Will the American people continue to allow the GOP complete control of our government? Or, will the American people chose balance?

[Gibble]

How about we post the interview and not jsut a bunch of clips chopped together for propoganda...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X6FC...elated&search=

[linskyjack]

You obviously didn't watch the interview. Bush lies once again. "We never said stay the course" The links to this lie have already been posted. Only "dead-enders" believe his nonsense.

[Gibble]

Context do you know nothing about context?

I'd explain it to you...but you'd still be hung up on literals.

[linskyjack]

I listened to the whole interview---He begins my making the specious insinuation that all the violence in Iraq is being caused by Al Queada---By the end of the interview, they are responsible for some of the violence. His comment on "stay the course" contextually, means what it means---I NEVER SAID STAY THE COURSE---Its not the complex.

[Rep]

This is about a nation in need of balance. We have been led for far too long by elements of one party. One party controls everything.

It is time to allow other voices and ideas into the public policy debate.

[linskyjack]

Of course, most rational people understand that. Now all we need is for them go get out and vote and hope that they have come to their senses. The Rove propaganda machine is very powerful and I bet you they have something planned for a couple of days before the elections.

[Wino]

"Stay the course" has been replaced with, "We're not gonna leave until we are through", which means the same thing. I ask again - anyone want to hazard a guess as to what the Bu****es will call their 'cut & run' plan when they finally cut and run? (Mission Accomplished, again?)

[linskyjack]

Anyone who is still for this war after reading this has either a low IQ or is so ideologically compacted that they are destroying their brain cells.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061025/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

[ekim68]

You know jack? Some people just don't understand war. They watch tv and the movies
where it's glorified. War doesn't bring about peace. Diplomacy does. Something this
administration forgot to study in school.

[Gibble]

And what brings about diplomacy when parties refuse to talk?

Why do people still continue to think this is a 'war' in the conventional sense?

The US is there to protect, not to overthrow a gov't...that's been done allready.

The Iraqi gov't isn't strong enough to protect itself OR it's people...hence, the US forces being there.

[ekim68]

What's more to the point is: Why did a lot of senior diplomats retire early or were replaced
by GW and company as soon as he got into office. He just wasn't going to hear about it.

[linskyjack]

Well Ekim, sometime diplomacy doesn't work, although in the case of Iraq, diplomacy, or lack thereof played a minor role. The administration was looking to take the fight to the terrorists, and they got off to a good start in Afghanistan. Then they decided to invade Iraq, not based on it being a threat to us, but based on a neo-conservative cabal, led by Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Then after invading, they did everything in their power to alienate as many Iraqis as possible.

As far as the Iraqi government be able to defend itself, that will never happen. If you read the the thread I linked above, you will understand that this is a Sunni/Shi thing and that the Sunni's will never allow the Shi to dominate. The fact that Malki is apologizing to that thug Sadr, shows me that he is totally useless and will protect Shi interests above Iraqi's interests How dare he lecture us!

[Littlefield]

Yep , that was BS that we capture a deathsquad killer and are told to release him.

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by ekim68

What's more to the point is: Why did a lot of senior diplomats retire early or were replaced
by GW and company as soon as he got into office. He just wasn't going to hear about it.

Good question---go over to PBS and check out the documentary on from Frontline on the first year in Iraq. Here is a link--its an incredible indictment of the entire administration.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...ariniraq/cron/