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27-Oct-2006, 02:52 PM #1
Define 'Racism'
I see that people are crying 'Racism' everywhere, but what does it actually mean?

Define it in your own words.

I would say:
Believing that one race deserves more or less moral consideration than others.

Apparently showing a TV ad with a white and black together is racist though, so lets here your definition!
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27-Oct-2006, 02:57 PM #2
The determinations made of another (good or bad) based upon their skin color.
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27-Oct-2006, 03:01 PM #3
Wasn't there a thread on this a while back. Racism a form of discrimination based on race-----especially the belief that one race is superior to another. It can be expressed consciously, through explicit thoughts feelings or acts, or socially and unconsciously like the way they did it in the Ford ad.
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27-Oct-2006, 03:06 PM #4
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Wasn't there a thread on this a while back. Racism a form of discrimination based on race-----especially the belief that one race is superior to another. It can be expressed consciously, through explicit thoughts feelings or acts, or socially and unconsciously like the way they did it in the Ford ad.
So would an ad that used only white people be racist because it 'unconsciously' implies that only white people are good enough to be in ads?
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27-Oct-2006, 03:39 PM #5
I look at it as the judgment of people based on their ethnicity rather than their personality and actions. Even though it can lead to discrimination, I think discrimination is something else altogether. A lot of people cry racism when it really isn't there... it's like everything that has anything to do with race is automatically racist. We're supposed to be colorblind for some reason, which is pretty stupid IMO, because there clearly are some very large differences between whites and blacks and other racial groups. That's not to say that any one group is better than any other, but we're definitely not all the same.
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27-Oct-2006, 04:48 PM #6
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So would an ad that used only white people be racist because it 'unconsciously' implies that only white people are good enough to be in ads?

That would depend on the ad----every ad isn't racist---
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27-Oct-2006, 05:03 PM #7
It totally depends on a person's political persuasion. Most liberals see racism in everything. If a white guy gets hired instead of a black guy--both with the same qaulifications, its racism. Although if the black guy gets hired with less qualifications, the liberal doesn't see that as racism.

I think for most rational people with normal sensitivies and not politically motivated to find it, the definition is pretty much the same--you treat someone unfairly (not just differently) because of their race.

Let's say I don't feel as comfortable working around a black guy as a white guy, but I hire a black guy instead of a white guy because I recognize its wrong for me to think that way. Am I racist? To a person with normal sensitivities, they'd say no because the essence of racism to me is practicing discrimination. However, a liberal would seek to crucify me if I admitted I wasn't comfortable working around blacks that even though I actually didn't practice racism and hired a black guy because for them, they simply can't tolerate anythign that could in any way be construed as racially motivated.

PS--the above is hypothetical--this admonition is necessary because there's liberals in this forum--kind of like the same reason you have to put "Don't Drink This" on poisons. Rational people would understand that, but there are irrational people in the world that actually have to be told!
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27-Oct-2006, 05:05 PM #8
If one creator has created all human beings then he should have dictated us, who is superior or deserving and who is not. The only criterion we see in all his scriptures is the piousness and that is to be decided by God, there is no mention of anything else upon which to differenciate. So I believe racism is against all religious teachings.
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27-Oct-2006, 05:05 PM #9
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That would depend on the ad----every ad isn't racist---
No--according to poochee and slowcat, if you use a white woman and a black man in an add in the south, racism is "inherent" in the add.
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27-Oct-2006, 05:09 PM #10
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If one creator has created all human beings then he should have dictated us, who is superior or deserving and who is not. The only criterion we see in all his scriptures is the piousness and that is to be decided by God, there is no mention of anything else upon which to differenciate. So I believe racism is against all religious teachings.
It seems like everything on here becomes religious somehow...
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27-Oct-2006, 05:35 PM #11
Racism is what the idiot prosecutor did in the DUKE rape case and that is how damaging it can be, that is true racism people.
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27-Oct-2006, 06:00 PM #12
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Originally Posted by Mulder
It totally depends on a person's political persuasion. Most liberals see racism in everything. If a white guy gets hired instead of a black guy--both with the same qaulifications, its racism. Although if the black guy gets hired with less qualifications, the liberal doesn't see that as racism.

I think for most rational people with normal sensitivies and not politically motivated to find it, the definition is pretty much the same--you treat someone unfairly (not just differently) because of their race.

Let's say I don't feel as comfortable working around a black guy as a white guy, but I hire a black guy instead of a white guy because I recognize its wrong for me to think that way. Am I racist? To a person with normal sensitivities, they'd say no because the essence of racism to me is practicing discrimination. However, a liberal would seek to crucify me if I admitted I wasn't comfortable working around blacks that even though I actually didn't practice racism and hired a black guy because for them, they simply can't tolerate anythign that could in any way be construed as racially motivated.

PS--the above is hypothetical--this admonition is necessary because there's liberals in this forum--kind of like the same reason you have to put "Don't Drink This" on poisons. Rational people would understand that, but there are irrational people in the world that actually have to be told!
Most wingers like Mulder think that white males are the victims and completely ignore that the control the wealth and power in this country. If you felt uncomfortable working around blacks, then you would be a racist. You got that right.
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27-Oct-2006, 06:06 PM #13
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Most wingers like Mulder think that white males are the victims and completely ignore that the control the wealth and power in this country. If you felt uncomfortable working around blacks, then you would be a racist. You got that right.
Thank you for making my point!
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27-Oct-2006, 06:07 PM #14
Just trying to read through the layers of obfuscation.
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27-Oct-2006, 07:04 PM #15
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Just trying to read through the layers of obfuscation.
No--racism to me should have an element of unfair or improper motive behind it. I can injure someone by accident or on purpose--two very different outcomes. One is mere negligence the other is intentional misconduct.

The problem is that you liberals have broadened the defintiion of "racism" to the point where literally anything, even harmless mistakes or innocent gaffs (or even slips of the tongue where someone say the wrong word by accident), are all treated the same--with the implication to the actor of some insidious motive. The charges against the Fox broadcaster are an excellent example of liberal hysteria. It resembles to me the witch hunts of salem.

I am happy you did not dissapoint me though!
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