[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by compushlep

Ah yes, looks like the slinging Bandit has just taken Typo Taliban to new depths

Why is it that so many anti-war TSGers have such a loose idea of "attention to detail"?

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by BanditFlyer

Why is it that so many anti-war TSGers have such a loose idea of "attention to detail"?

Because that would mean getting your facts correct. Liberals would look even more stupid if they had to argue the actual facts so it becomes necessary to be imprecise, to fudge and to generalize.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by BanditFlyer

Yep, I was right, you're full of crap.
Tell me where on this page you see the number 32,5444 .

Anytime a liberal posts a thread like this in the future I'll be on the lookout for lies.


Edit: So it looks like the liar was Poochee, not her source.

You are walking a thin line, you want all "Conservatives" held to the standard you claim here?

[bassetman]

From the link:

TOTAL - MEDICAL AIR TRANSPORTED 26,559 904 3,908 1,173 32,544

[BanditFlyer]

Originally Posted by bassetman

You are walking a thin line, you want all "Conservatives" held to the standard you claim here?

They're already held to that standard.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by bassetman

You are walking a thin line, you want all "Conservatives" held to the standard you claim here?

IMO, some people don't want to see the death and injury stats on this trumped up war. I still wonder why the injury chart hasn't been updated in over a month?

[poochee]

As of Mar 23, 2007 (4 more deaths today, non-mortal chart still not updated since Feb. 3, 2007!!)

US Casualties: 3234

Coalition Casualties: 3492

Non-Mortal Injury chart not updated by DOD since Feb.3, 2007.
The 32,544, TOTAL - MEDICAL AIR TRANSPORTED, figure has surely grown. The casualty figure grows almost daily. Wonder why DOD hasn't updated the Non-Mortal Injury chart in over a month since they reconfigured it? For reconfiguration see: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020307D.shtml

Casualty and None-Mortal Injury charts at: http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

[poochee]

As of Mar 25, 2007 (7 more deaths today, non-mortal chart still not updated by DOD since Feb. 3, 2007!!)

US Casualties: 3241

Coalition Casualties: 3499

Non-Mortal Injury chart not updated by DOD since Feb.3, 2007.
The 32,544, TOTAL - MEDICAL AIR TRANSPORTED, figure has surely grown. The casualty figure grows almost daily. Wonder why DOD hasn't updated the Non-Mortal Injury chart in over a month since they reconfigured it? For reconfiguration see: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020307D.shtml

Casualty and None-Mortal Injury charts at: http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

[bassetman]

Thanks for the update!

[oldie]

So .. the Lancet report and estimate was based on genuine figures.

Shortly after the publication of the survey in October last year Tony Blair's official spokesperson said the Lancet's figure was not anywhere near accurate.

If the Lancet survey is right, then 2.5% of the Iraqi population - an average of more than 500 people a day - have been killed since the start of the war.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6495753.stm

Oldie

[SlackAli]

Originally Posted by oldie

So .. the Lancet report and estimate was based on genuine figures.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6495753.stm

Oldie

Glad you posted that, but I'd have made a bit more of it. Yet another example of the cynical political elite being found out in there lies. No attempt at an apology of course, just usual spurious spin 'the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".' (does anyone else want to kill when they hear politicians or their lackeys use the word "robust" )

[poochee]

Originally Posted by oldie

So .. the Lancet report and estimate was based on genuine figures.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6495753.stm

Oldie

Thanks for the info. Both governments are trying to suppress the death figures IMO.

[oldie]

Originally Posted by SlackAli

Glad you posted that, but I'd have made a bit more of it. Yet another example of the cynical political elite being found out in there lies. No attempt at an apology of course, just usual spurious spin 'the survey's methods were "close to best practice" and the study design was "robust".' (does anyone else want to kill when they hear politicians or their lackeys use the word "robust" )

As a physician (albeit retired) I have great respect for Institutions such as "Johns Hopkins". One of Americas foremost centres of specialised research. The Lancet too, would be very cautious of including anything in it's pages that were not exactly au fait.

Well .. just a few thousand more lives will come to an end before reality kicks in with the "Death before Dishonour" brigade of bloody blinkered thinkers. Sat there in their cosy homes sipping their Perriers with a lemon twist

Oldie

[poochee]

Originally Posted by oldie

As a physician (albeit retired) I have great respect for Institutions such as "Johns Hopkins". One of Americas foremost centres of specialised research. The Lancet too, would be very cautious of including anything in it's pages that were not exactly au fait.

Well .. just a few thousand more lives will come to an end before reality kicks in with the "Death before Dishonour" brigade of bloody blinkered thinkers. Sat there in their cosy homes sipping their Perriers with a lemon twist

Oldie

I agree with you.

[poochee]

I thought I would bring this forward from the casualty chart. These are reports from one day in Iraq! From: http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

03/26/07 Reuters: Body found in Tikrit
Police found the bullet-riddled body of a man in Tikrit, 175 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Police kill gunmen in Hawija
Police killed a gunman and arrested another when they were trying to plant a roadside bomb in the town of Hawija, 70 km (40 miles) southwest of the northern oil city of Kirkuk, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Rocted wounds 4 people in Baghdad's Karada district
At least four people were wounded when a rocket landed on a house in the district of Karrada in central Baghdad, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Gunmen kill adviser for the Sunni Endowment
Gunmen killed an adviser for the Sunni Endowment, an organisation which manages Sunni religious sites, along with two other employees in a drive-by shooting in Adhamiya in northern Baghdad, the Sunni Endowment said. One more employee was wounded.
03/26/07 VOI: Pipeline set ablaze in Kirkuk
Unknown gunmen on Monday detonated an explosive charge near a pipeline that links Kirkuk oil fields to Baiji refinery, said a security source adding that the pipeline
03/26/07 VOI: Civilian killed, two wounded by gunmen in Falluja
Unidentified gunmen on Monday killed a civilian and injured two others were injured in Falluja, 45 km west of Baghdad, a police source said.
03/26/07 VOI: Bodies of two women, boy found in Falluja
Police patrols found on Monday three unidentified bodies of two women and a 14-year –old boy in the city of Falluja, 45 km west of Baghdad, a police source sai
03/26/07 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties (part 2)
Lance Cpl. Trevor A. Roberts, 21, of Oklahoma City, Okla...died March 24 while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar province, Iraq. He was assigned to Marine Forces Reserve’s 2nd Battalion, 14th Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division...
03/26/07 DoD Identifies Marine Casualties (part 1)
Cpl. Henry W. Bogrette, 21, of Richville, N.Y...For more information in regard to Bogrette the media can contact the 2nd Marine Logistics Group public affairs office at (910) 451-3538.
03/26/07 AP: South Portland Soldier Killed In Iraq
Another soldier from Maine has been killed in Iraq. A family member told News 8 that Spc. Jason Swiger, of South Portland, died. They did not give details about his death. Swiger...was serving his third tour in Iraq, according to Swiger's sister.
03/26/07 AP: Florida Reserve Officer Committed Suicide In Kuwait
An Army Reserve officer who volunteered to return to active service for Operation Iraqi Freedom committed suicide last year, an official said Monday. Army Reserve Lt. Col. Peter Winston, 56, died Nov. 13, in Kaiserslautern, Germany...
03/26/07 NYTimes: Baghdad's Sunnis living in a land of silent ruin
The contrast with Shiite neighborhoods is sharp. Markets there are in full swing, community projects are under way and, while electricity is scarce throughout the city, there is less trouble finding fuel for generators in those areas.
03/26/07 AP: Ambassador - Attacks Down 25% Since Surge
Zalmay Khalilzad said insurgent and militia attacks have decreased by 25 percent since a joint U.S.-Iraqi security operation began six weeks ago.
03/26/07 Time: On Scene - Assault on an Iraqi Village
Since November 2006, when U.S. forces deployed elsewhere in Iraq, the Baqubah River valley, a string of farming hamlets nestled among dense palm groves northeast of Baghdad, has become the scene of intense violence. Over the weekend...
03/26/07 BBC: Iraqi deaths survey 'was robust'
The British government was advised against publicly criticising a report estimating that 655,000 Iraqis had died due to the war...Iraqi Health Ministry figures put the toll at less than 10% of the total in the survey, published in the Lancet.
03/26/07 Reuters: Rocket shakes U.S. embassy in Baghdad
A rocket landed in Baghdad's heavily fortified international Green Zone on Monday, rocking the U.S. embassy but causing no casualties, witnesses said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Mortar rounds kill 2 in Iskandariya, curfew imposed
A curfew was imposed in the town of Iskandariya 40 km (25 miles) south of Baghdad after clashes erupted between gunmen and security forces, police said. Mortars also landed in a central residential district, killing two and wounding four.
03/26/07 Reuters: Iraqi police raid a house in Tal Afar
Iraqi police raided a house in Tal Afar, near the Syrian border, and shot a man wearing an explosive vest, which detonated, killing himself and another insurgent, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Gunmen kill Iraqi contractor in a drive-by shooting near Kut
Gunmen killed an Iraqi contractor working for the U.S. forces in a drive-by shooting on Sunday in a town near the city of Kut, 170 km (105 miles) southeast of Baghdad, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Gunmen kill police major in Mosul
Gunmen killed a police major in the northern city of Mosul, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Gunmen kill tribal leader in Mosul
Gunmen killed tribal leader Mohammed al-Igoud and wounded his son on Sunday in the northern city of Mosul...Gunmen killed a Facilities Protection Service captain in the northern city of Mosul on Sunday, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: More bodies found in Diwaniya and Mosul
The body of a man was found with gunshot wounds, bound and bearing signs of torture on Sunday in the southern city of Diwaniya...A decapitated body was found in Mosul on Sunday. Another body of a man, with gunshot wounds, was found on Monday in Mosul
03/26/07 Reuters: Mortar rouns kill 1, 17 bodies found in Baghdad
A mortar round landed on a residential district in Dora in southern Baghdad, killing a man and wounding three others, police said...Seventeen bodies were found in Baghdad on Sunday, police said.
03/26/07 Reuters: Roadside bomb kills 2 policemen in Baghdad
A roadside bomb targeting a police patrol killed a policeman and wounded three others in the Zaafaraniya district of southern Baghdad, police said.
03/26/07 IRIN: Bad Water Afflicting Iraq's Children
Mohammed Hussein Shureida, 40, sets aside a huge portion of his monthly income to buy water from private tankers and protect his family from waterborne diseases that can result from drinking Iraq's tap water.
03/26/07 NYTimes: U.S. Envoy Says He Met With Iraq Rebels
The senior American envoy in Iraq, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, held talks last year with men he believed represented major insurgent groups in a drive to bring militant Sunni Arabs into politics.
03/26/07 NPR: Training the Trainers at Fort Riley
At Fort Riley in Kansas, U.S. soldiers raid fake Iraqi villages, lead fake Iraqi troops and use Iraqi interpreters to fix problems. They're being trained for a real-life assignment to help make Iraq's military forces more effective.
03/26/07 NPR: Breaking Down the Pentagon's Budget
The Pentagon says Congress must allocate another $100 billion for the war in Iraq, or the military will face significant cutbacks. Can the Department of Defense and its $500 billion budget really still be strapped for cash?
03/26/07 NPR: Children's Deaths Tear Iraqi Neighborhood Asunder
When a group of young boys were gunned down while playing soccer, a gun battle erupted in a Baghdad neighborhood where Sunnis and Shiites had lived in relative peace for years. A witness recounts the incident.
03/26/07 Reuters: US building anti-Qaeda front in Iraq
US and Iraqi officials are in contact with representatives of some Sunni Arab insurgent groups to build an alliance against al-Qaeda in Iraq, the outgoing US ambassador said today.
03/26/07 (AKI: FOUR SAUDIS SLAIN IN AL-ANBAR, REPORTS
Four alleged Saudi terrorists belonging to the Iraqi al-Qaeda organisation were killed in recent days during violent clashes with tribal militias in the Sunni province of al-Anbar.
03/26/07 KUNA: British sailors detained by Iran were in Iraqi waters
British navy personnel detained by Iran were in Iraqi territorial waters when they were captured and thus had to be immediately released, said Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari on Monday.
03/26/07 LATimes: War wounded straining hospital
Four years ago this month, Marines from Camp Pendleton were the first conventional troops to surge into Iraq at the start of the U.S.-led assault. They were greeted by Navy SEALs from Coronado, Calif., who had slipped across...