[bassetman]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

I agree! .
Instead of coming up with credible arguement for the war {pretty tough job }, the right-wing seems to rely on misrepresenting the truth----lies--BS --which this obviously is.
Anyone with common sense should be able to see this --its text book neo-con/right-wing tactic that we have suffering with for years. Twisting the obvious into fairytales.
Mr. Obama meant NOTHING disrespectful to our service people --and everybody damn well knows it. >f

Any non-lemming!

When lemmings go wild!

[ekim68]

Does anyone think that Rush and Karl are twins? Almost?......Anyway, Rush's take on Obama.

Limbaugh: Obama Should ‘Renounce’ His Race And Just ‘Become White’

Yesterday on his radio show, right-wing host Rush Limbaugh derided Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) — who is biracial — for saying, “If you look African-American in this society, you’re treated as an African-American.”

Limbaugh claimed that this statement meant Obama didn’t want to be black and should “renounce it”: “If it’s not something you want to be, if you didn’t decide it, renounce it, become white!” He added, “If you don’t like it, you can switch. Well, that’s the way I see it. He’s got 50-50 in there. Say, ‘No, I’m white.’”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/14/...h-obama-white/

[diablo75]

I talked with one of my friends and asked him what he thought about Obama.

He regards him as a "hustler", and said that he doesn't trust his face (as in facial expressions). He said that he "wrote a book in advanced before announcing his intentions to run for president as an effort to get the dirty diapers out of the way, and cause people to go buy his book so he'd make some extra money." And also that, "America just isn't ready for a black president yet. We've got about another 60 years to go before American can function as a pure democracy."

I asked him, "Well, who would you vote for."

He said, "If there were anyone out there I would vote for, it would be the current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates. I trust him. He's a diplomat, and he knows how to get s--t done."

I think he's probably right. But I still think that of the current popular candidates running that he's still about the best choice we got, next to Clinton (which is kind of sad).

[poochee]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Does anyone think that Rush and Karl are twins? Almost?......Anyway, Rush's take on Obama.

Limbaugh: Obama Should ‘Renounce’ His Race And Just ‘Become White’

Yesterday on his radio show, right-wing host Rush Limbaugh derided Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) — who is biracial — for saying, “If you look African-American in this society, you’re treated as an African-American.”

Limbaugh claimed that this statement meant Obama didn’t want to be black and should “renounce it”: “If it’s not something you want to be, if you didn’t decide it, renounce it, become white!” He added, “If you don’t like it, you can switch. Well, that’s the way I see it. He’s got 50-50 in there. Say, ‘No, I’m white.’”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/14/...h-obama-white/

I wish Limbaugh would crawl back in his rat hole and stay there. Yuck!

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by diablo75

I talked with one of my friends and asked him what he thought about Obama.

He regards him as a "hustler", and said that he doesn't trust his face (as in facial expressions).

Is your friend a facial interpreter? Or perhaps a psychiatrist? I've heard of lip-readers, but,
facial-readers, not yet....

[poochee]

Originally Posted by diablo75

I talked with one of my friends and asked him what he thought about Obama.

He regards him as a "hustler", and said that he doesn't trust his face (as in facial expressions). He said that he "wrote a book in advanced before announcing his intentions to run for president as an effort to get the dirty diapers out of the way, and cause people to go buy his book so he'd make some extra money." And also that, "America just isn't ready for a black president yet. We've got about another 60 years to go before American can function as a pure democracy."

I asked him, "Well, who would you vote for."

He said, "If there were anyone out there I would vote for, it would be the current Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates. I trust him. He's a diplomat, and he knows how to get s--t done."

I think he's probably right. But I still think that of the current popular candidates running that he's still about the best choice we got, next to Clinton (which is kind of sad).

I think Clinton/Obama will look pretty good to a lot of people. Me for one.

[diablo75]

Originally Posted by ekim68

Is your friend a facial interpreter? Or perhaps a psychiatrist? I've heard of lip-readers, but, facial-readers, not yet....

You mean, people are able to lie to you more easily than to others? No offense, but I think we all hold an ability to read a persons eyes in tandem with their voice, to one degree or another. I'm not THAT good at reading eyes; the HR department where I work at is proof that you can be lied to more often than not if the persons words "make sense", and they feign an emotion (act) to help convey a false identity. Good news can be delivered more gracefully with a smile...at least if you follow Bush last year when he talked about the war and killing at least, oh, whatdaya say, 20,000 Iraqi civilians (that was a long time ago).

Now, I'm not suggesting Obama would ever be such a piece of scum to talk about death with a smile, not at all. But I do think it's a fair jab to say he is doing a little extra work to find ways to make extra money for himself. And, really, that is not that big a deal (selling books? Oh C'mon!). We live in a capitalists society. Nobody seems to care that people like Cheney makes money from oil stocks and such. As mildly selfish you might be able to tease him selling a few books here and there into him being selfish, it's a fair play. Selling a book is so different an act than selling a war to the public to only have it revealed as a truly idiot idea and later attempting to dodge the blame.

Obama, it seems, knows how to do a little personal business to make more money, and it's a pretty accurate observation. But I wouldn't call it greed. I think we have many better examples of people in this country who better fit the definition of the word greed, and I don't think Obama could ever rub shoulders with the likes of them. Not yet to say the least, sure, but I don't see him as the type of person who has a desire to cross into such devious territory.

So IMHO, I still think he is likely the best individual candidate thus far. I don't care about opinion polls, linskyjack. You may easily be right on California being in greater favor of Clinton instead of Obama, but I'd like to see you post a link to such polls that indicate a trend that guarantees that; I think it's too early still to tell for certain. I mean, there has to be at least one poll that was take BEFORE Obama announced that he was running, and at least one poll that was taken AFTER, but hopefully someone has been watching these kinds of things in some sort of dark office building filled with people who make phone calls all day. I'm not a statistics major, but we can all take a crack at a prediction if we have a few simple statistics available on a time line. A simple line graph probably exists somewhere with an easy to read trend on it. But even if this trend were to not shift in response, or show an indication that it will flatten out before succeeding over any other opponents sometimes after his announcement, it wouldn't change my opinions about his capabilities. Same way my opinions haven't changed about Ralph Naders abilities. I simply don't like Clinton, Rudy, John Edwards or McCain, and I haven't heard anybodies else's name much lately, so simply put, Obama just seems to be the best option for me at the moment.

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by poochee

I wish Limbaugh would crawl back in his rat hole and stay there. Yuck!

Is your friend a facial interpreter? Or perhaps a psychiatrist? I've heard of lip-readers, but,
facial-readers, not yet....

There are some around, mostly pointed out when Ollie North was lying!

[bill.aam]

DThomas2 I think what you posted would be consider SPAM, and you shouldn't post your email address....
you need to check the rules..

[Littlefield]

Obama the 'Magic Negro'
The Illinois senator lends himself to white America's idealized, less-than-real black man.
By David Ehrenstein, L.A.-based DAVID EHRENSTEIN writes about Hollywood and politics.
March 19, 2007


AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...opinion-center





So a comic did a version of a spoof on AL Sharpton singing it . You gotta admit it is funny

[Littlefield]

Obama art piece in Chicago has him as black Christ . Blasphemy I say not art !
on display at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. A.J.



http://www.myfoxchicago.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

[Littlefield]

If Obama fades as quick as this thread he is in trouble . I cannot believe there were no comments on the two above posts.

[trekguy]

Originally Posted by Littlefield

If Obama fades as quick as this thread he is in trouble . I cannot believe there were no comments on the two above posts.

OK, so someone made a stupid video, and someone else made statue... who cares? What does either of them have to do with anything??

Are you disappointed that your pot-stirring didn't work?

Fade away??? I'm guessing you would like that.... but it ain't gonna happen.

How about this... the Obama campaign has raised $25 million dollars in three months, with none of it coming from PACs or lobbyists.

Personally, I have never donated to any political campaign, until now. Part of that $25M is from me. This country desperately needs a uniter, someone with some common sense and intelligence, I believe Barack is that someone.

Obama '08

[poochee]

Originally Posted by trekguy

OK, so someone made a stupid video, and someone else made statue... who cares? What does either of them have to do with anything??

Are you disappointed that your pot-stirring didn't work?

Fade away??? I'm guessing you would like that.... but it ain't gonna happen.

How about this... the Obama campaign has raised $25 million dollars in three months, with none of it coming from PACs or lobbyists.

Personally, I have never donated to any political campaign, until now. Part of that $25M is from me. This country desperately needs a uniter, someone with some common sense and intelligence, I believe Barack is that someone.

Obama '08

Yes, he is doing very well!

[Littlefield]

Howard Dean raised a lot too and he lost just as Obama will . This amount by Obama will not stop Hillary and Bill in the end . The LA Times wrote that article about Obama not exactly a Republican paper and the video was based on it.