[Fidelista]

"Keep fighting for freedom and justice...but don't forget to have fun doin' it. Let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cat, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' *** and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was." - Molly Ivins 1944-2007

RIP > f

[mach9]

A great progressive lady. And FUNNY.

Thank you, Molly Ivins.

[poochee]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

"Keep fighting for freedom and justice...but don't forget to have fun doin' it. Let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cat, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' *** and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was." - Molly Ivins 1944-2007

RIP > f

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

"Keep fighting for freedom and justice...but don't forget to have fun doin' it. Let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous, ridicule the fraidy-cat, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can produce. And when you get through kickin' *** and celebratin' the sheer joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun it was." - Molly Ivins 1944-2007

RIP > f

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[Wino]

Excerpt from Newsweek re Molly:

".........She credited her father, a conservative Republican, with instilling in her the strength to stand up to people like himself"..........

So, mulder, there is some hope for your daughters.

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by Wino

So, mulder, there is some hope for your daughters.

If any of my daugthers end up half as irrational as Molly Ivans, I'll take them out myself!

[LuckyStrike]

I don't recall that I ever agreed with anything Molly Ivins wrote, usually the opposite, but I was usually amused when I read her columns.

[Wino]

Originally Posted by Mulder

If any of my daugthers end up half as irrational as Molly Ivans, I'll take them out myself!

You surely do have a problem with strong willed, in your face, intellectual women. Nothing irrational about Molly, she just said what she felt. Her satirical, caustic wit, insight and humor set her apart and above most all in her profession, right or left. She had heart vs. the blind hatred of the likes of Coulter.

On her fight with breast cancer: "First they mutilate you; then they poison you; then they burn you. I have been on blind dates better than that."

Molly, I'm going to miss you and Art Buchwald.

[Fidelista]

I didn't ALWAYS agree with her , but she obviously had a good heart-- no hate --no venom.
She also possessed a great sense of humour.
I will miss reading her articles , along with millions of others.
A good person she was. >f

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

I didn't ALWAYS agree with her , but she obviously had a good heart-- no hate --no venom.
She also possessed a great sense of humour.
I will miss reading her articles , along with millions of others.
A good person she was. >f

Who are you kidding??? She had nothing but hate and venom for President Bush and anyone who dared disagree with her. She may have been witty once very long ago, but I can't remember a single column of hers that did not spew hate and venom. While I wish no one her fate so early in life, I will not miss her vitriolic column one bit.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by TooBad

While I wish no one her fate so early in life, I will not miss her vitriolic column one bit.

Neither will all the other Bush supporters...

[Fidelista]

"Molly Ivins was a Texas original. She was loved by her readers and by her many friends, particularly in Central Texas. I respected her convictions, her passionate belief in the power of words, and her ability to turn a phrase. She fought her illness with that same passion. Her quick wit and commitment to her beliefs will be missed. Laura and I send our condolences to Molly Ivins’ family and friends".
G.W. Bush

Passionate is more accurate TooBad, not venomous.
Strong opinions , and no fan of Bush politic , but nowhere near a A.Coulter --for example.
I have just googled Molly --articles about her , and your opinion is....reflected in a very small minority of people.
Theres reason for that. >f

[TooBad]

Originally Posted by Fidelista

"Molly Ivins was a Texas original. She was loved by her readers and by her many friends, particularly in Central Texas. I respected her convictions, her passionate belief in the power of words, and her ability to turn a phrase. She fought her illness with that same passion. Her quick wit and commitment to her beliefs will be missed. Laura and I send our condolences to Molly Ivins’ family and friends".
G.W. Bush

Passionate is more accurate TooBad, not venomous.
Strong opinions , and no fan of Bush politic , but nowhere near a A.Coulter --for example.
I have just googled Molly --articles about her , and your opinion is....reflected in a very small minority of people.
Theres reason for that. >f

Maybe the reason is that too many people won't speak their mind if they feel it will be ridiculed as uncompassionate. It is usually good manners not to speak ill of the dead, of course that matters little if the dead is Ronald Reagan or Nixon and it is a leftist doing the bashing. I have had a problem with manners that get in the way of truth for a long time, sometimes to my detriment, but that is my cross to bear. I tell it like I see it, no whitewash, no holds barred. And as Dennis Miller used to say, "thats my opinion, of course, I could be wrong."

[Mulderator]

Originally Posted by Wino

You surely do have a problem with strong willed, in your face, intellectual women. Nothing irrational about Molly, she just said what she felt. Her satirical, caustic wit, insight and humor set her apart and above most all in her profession, right or left. She had heart vs. the blind hatred of the likes of Coulter..

You see that's where your dead wrong. Ivans hated the right and Bush as much as Coulter hates the left and its leaders (term used very loosely). The only difference is she was much more subtle in her presentation whereas Coulter is much more blunt--she made no bones about her hatred.

BTW--my 17 year old is as strong willed and intellectual as you can get--she's a born leader. I got such a kick out of her a few weeks ago--I forget the topic, but it was one of these ridiculous conspiracy theories you liberals are so fond of--I don't even know where she got if from--I'll have to ask her if she remembers specifically what it was--she probably does. In any event, I have never actually spoken with her on that issue specifically (i.e., conspiracy theories), but she was the one that querried me as to why people choose to believe the improbable over the probable (not her words, but words to that effect)--I had to marvel at how rational and logical she was--as a 17 year old--a chip off the old (errrr, young) block!

That's what I mean when I say "irrational". I don't mean to imply "irrational" in the terms of not being lucid. Ivans was very intelligent and she definitely had a very sharp wit and definitely insightful in a lot of ways. Unfortunately, her ideology often colored the conclusions she drew, which were often irrational (or at the very least not the most likely conclusoin to draw from the facts that existed).

Ivans, like most liberals, chose to believe the improbable over the probable because it suited her political ideology--that is irrational. I recall one of her columns (it was about medical malpractice in California), she had the "facts" completely wrong. And I'm not talking about facts that were really open to dispute, or at least reasonable dispute. I recall that one only because it was so far off the mark factually, that I wondered why she had not run it past some lawyers as to the factual aspects of the column. Upon reflection, it dawned on me that she probably had, but if she presented the facts as they were, she would not have been able to draw the conclusion she wanted from it--which of course was the typical liberal idealistic crap that had little to do with the practical reality. And I certainly knew the practical reality because I've litigated many professional malpractice cases--more often than not the problem is a bad result because the body simply does not recover well from trauma and disease and medicine is far from a perfect science--just far too many variables. That's not to say there weren't case were the doctor's screw up--there are--but those were the exceptions, not the rule. Ivans of course, views it completely the reverse even though she's never litigated one case.

Look--I think what you liberals don't understand and can't grasp is that much of the view from the rational side (that's the right) isn't in any way based on greed or hate or choose your popular liberal perjorative. For myself--as a pure capitalist--I would love nothing more than for every person in America to be at least lower middle class and have no poor. A high tide floats all boats--the country would be much better off for many many reasons. The difference is, liberals think they can reach that equality through shifting of wealth by social programs. While that certainly appears to be the "moral" and "right" thing to do, in actuality, it makes things worse. Not that I advocate doing away with all of it nor do I not believe there needs to be morality and ethics in government. But my core belief, which is completely the antithesis of liberals, is the less government is ALWAYS better and that if we have to err, we should err on the side of less--less government, less taxes, less bueracracy, etc. , etc., etc. I think most all of us believe that, yet you lefties continue to support a party that believe just the opposite.

[eggplant43]

"But my core belief, which is completely the antithesis of liberals, is the less government is ALWAYS better and that if we have to err, we should err on the side of less--less government, less taxes, less bueracracy, etc. , etc., etc. I think most all of us believe that, yet you lefties continue to support a party that believe just the opposite."

Feeling this way, you must be extremely proud of the accomplishments of your Republican representatives during the last 6 years