[linskyjack]

This is unbelievable---according to the auditors, 10,000,000,000 of your tax payers money is unaccounted for! As I have said before, these people are the most incompetent and corrupt in the history of this nation. Didn't these wingers say that they were going to run the country like a good business?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/...truction_waste

[poochee]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

This is unbelievable---according to the auditors, 10,000,000,000 of your tax payers money is unaccounted for! As I have said before, these people are the most incompetent and corrupt in the history of this nation. Didn't these wingers say that they were going to run the country like a good business?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/...truction_waste

Very enlightening article.

[ekim68]

In the run up to the war our local paper had a letter to the editor saying that war was good business. I guess it is for some. It's already cost over 600 billion and 3,000 soldiers so I guess the math is there somewhere....But, on a different note, these neocons sure know how to stir it up.

Russia threatens to quit arms treaty

Russia threatened on Thursday to pull out of a landmark nuclear arms control treaty unless the US backed away from plans to install its missile defence shield in Eastern Europe.

Yury Baluyevsky, the Russian army chief of staff, said Moscow might unilaterally withdraw from the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces treaty, which forced the US and the Soviet Union to ban nuclear and conventional ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles with ranges of 500 to 5,500km.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/289ed728-bd2...0779e2340.html

[kaaos]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

This is unbelievable---according to the auditors, 10,000,000,000 of your tax payers money is unaccounted for! As I have said before, these people are the most incompetent and corrupt in the history of this nation. Didn't these wingers say that they were going to run the country like a good business?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/...truction_waste

GOOD GAWD!!

what a waste and yet we still have schools with lead paint, asbestos, broken windows, no heat, out dated school books,

makes me sick!

[LuckyStrike]

Originally Posted by kaaos

GOOD GAWD!!

what a waste and yet we still have schools with lead paint, asbestos, broken windows, no heat, out dated school books,

makes me sick!

So... you want schools to be funded by the federal government? Ours schools are in pretty good physical shape downstate, without anywhere near the tax base you folks have in Chicago. So why do you folks in Chicago have schools with lead paint, asbestos, broken windows, no heat, and out dated school books? Downstate our school districts are governed by school boards that are totally separate and independent of any other local government entity such as town, city, or county governments. Could your problems in Chicago schools be due to local mismanagement, or corruption, or patronage, or other political factors? You tell me.

[Fidelista]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

This is unbelievable---according to the auditors, 10,000,000,000 of your tax payers money is unaccounted for! As I have said before, these people are the most incompetent and corrupt in the history of this nation. Didn't these wingers say that they were going to run the country like a good business?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/...truction_waste

If they were not fiscal conservatives , it would have been $20,000,000,000 !!! .
Great job! >f

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by LuckyStrike

So... you want schools to be funded by the federal government? Ours schools are in pretty good physical shape downstate, without anywhere near the tax base you folks have in Chicago. So why do you folks in Chicago have schools with lead paint, asbestos, broken windows, no heat, and out dated school books? Downstate our school districts are governed by school boards that are totally separate and independent of any other local government entity such as town, city, or county governments. Could your problems in Chicago schools be due to local mismanagement, or corruption, or patronage, or other political factors? You tell me.

Okay, now that you have presented the red herring---what do you thing about the 10,000,000,000 in tax payer dollars that have been "lost" somewhere in Iraq?

[GoneForNow]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Okay, now that you have presented the red herring---what do you thing about the 10,000,000,000 in tax payer dollars that have been "lost" somewhere in Iraq?

It hasn't been lost, as with most GAO accounting reviews (as well OMB) the money will be found. Christ, this happens with just about every federal agency in DC. The problem is when it is found there will not be a newspaper article on it because it doesn't make for sensational headlines.

[LuckyStrike]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

Okay, now that you have presented the red herring---what do you thing about the 10,000,000,000 in tax payer dollars that have been "lost" somewhere in Iraq?

I think it is surprisingly low. War and it's aftermath is inherently wasteful. You know enough about the history of war to know that.

[ekim68]

Originally Posted by LuckyStrike

I think it is surprisingly low. War and it's aftermath is inherently wasteful. You know enough about the history of war to know that.

And, how long can it continue? There's only one earth...Only so much in surface area and resources....How much will be destroyed by war before it doesn't come back? War isn't something that should be championed. It should always be an alternative...Be prepared, but don't be stupid...

[bassetman]

Originally Posted by linskyjack

This is unbelievable---according to the auditors, 10,000,000,000 of your tax payers money is unaccounted for! As I have said before, these people are the most incompetent and corrupt in the history of this nation. Didn't these wingers say that they were going to run the country like a good business?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/...truction_waste

Pocket change to , why would any GOP'er question it?

[Zaney1]

If you ever watched a war movie, imagine trying to build a schoolhouse in the middle of a battlefield scene. The top excuse, or reason, for cost overrun has ben security issues. Some contractors hire local talent for security on their particular project only to get caught in the middle of shia/sunni mess.
I am in no way apologizing for the waste. To me the blame falls on the payor who does not have controls in place to hold contractors accountable.
It really is not a GOP/Dem thing, either and both parties are to blame. You can be sure both parties' members are profiting, directly or indirectly from this war.

[plschwartz]

Originally Posted by Zaney1

If you ever watched a war movie, imagine trying to build a schoolhouse in the middle of a battlefield scene. The top excuse, or reason, for cost overrun has ben security issues. Some contractors hire local talent for security on their particular project only to get caught in the middle of shia/sunni mess.
I am in no way apologizing for the waste. To me the blame falls on the payor who does not have controls in place to hold contractors accountable.
It really is not a GOP/Dem thing, either and both parties are to blame. You can be sure both parties' members are profiting, directly or indirectly from this war.

Feb. 15 (Bloomberg) -- The amount of questionable or unsupported charges to the U.S. by contractors for Iraq reconstruction may wind up exceeding the $10 billion found so far by auditors, Representative Henry Waxman said.

In exams conducted through September 2006, the Defense Contract Audit Agency recommended reducing proposed contract payments by $4.9 billion. It also found $5.1 billion of estimated costs where the contractor didn't provide sufficient documentation to explain the expenditure.

To me thats a little more then the difficulties you suggest.

Second as will I expect soon be coming out, there was a policy of putting GOP loyalists with little or no relevant experience into oversight positions in the CPA.
Thus cheating ccould be done with little worry.

Similar to what happened in Katrina

[linskyjack]

Originally Posted by Zaney1

If you ever watched a war movie, imagine trying to build a schoolhouse in the middle of a battlefield scene. The top excuse, or reason, for cost overrun has ben security issues. Some contractors hire local talent for security on their particular project only to get caught in the middle of shia/sunni mess.
I am in no way apologizing for the waste. To me the blame falls on the payor who does not have controls in place to hold contractors accountable.
It really is not a GOP/Dem thing, either and both parties are to blame. You can be sure both parties' members are profiting, directly or indirectly from this war.

Both parties are at fault? Thats like blaming the rape victim for the rape! The fact remains that the Republican president started the fake war, and the Republican Congress did absolutely nothing to safe guard the taxpayer from waste. In fact, they did everything in their power to stop congressional oversight.

[ekim68]

The reps are responsible for this whole thing. They've been in charge for the last five years with this admin and they've had no oversight. THEY got us into this situation.
How about THEY, the REPUBLICANS, who got us into this mess, suggest a way out, rather than blaming the party that wasn't in power when this all got started....
And, on a good note, a lot of the investigations have begun...Oversight and all......